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Pats Pulpit = steaming pile of mis-interpretations

Dear Gooch,

Don't misinterpret what I wrote. I said a comparison can be drawn (in jest.) I nevermentioned genocide. Good god man, that's irresponsible on your part. I just drew a parallel between one team in their attempt to be "world champions" and anothers. In my next installment, I will draw a parallel between Abe Lincoln and Tony Dungy.......Check it out.......

I mean c'mon, I realize your INTERPRETATION, of what I said may not be, (what is actually stated) but I won't charge you +500K or a first round draft pick....we here in "hoosierland" aren't the type that will throw you in the fire (even if you do have a debilitating concussion that is going to handicap you for the rest of your life.) Just take this advice from Bellicheat, if you don't particpate in the "back and forth" you can't have an argument.

I would like to welcome all Pats fans now reading Stampede Blue to see what a terrific blog we have here, and that BIGBLUESHOE pulls no punches.....Dear Patriots fans I leave you with this. "We own you now." -Larry Burd

I hope we get on ESPN!

kisses.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.

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The best part
is the hypocrisy of some of the Pats fans. Funny how Gooch gets up in arms about what is obviously a joke, but has no qualms about denigrating an entire state's intelligence by saying that "hoosierland" would be scared of big words like "irony" and "hyperbole."

And funny how RSNexile would like to punch teeth in and use words that the pious Tommasse doesn't allow on his site, but seems to have no qualms equating Indiana with racism by using the remarks of a couple of misguided public officials and pointing out the Klan's history. I might add that while the Stampede Blue efforts are clearly satire, RSNexile was serious.

I could point out New England's own long history of intolerance and racism (witch trials, Sacco/Vanzetti, "No Irish need apply" signs, pelting school buses of black children with rocks and tomatoes, etc. etc. etc.) But what's the point? The Pats fans' self-righteous indignation aside, this isn't about what is appropriate material for satire and what isn't. Hitler and the Nazis have been satirized for years in many different forums (most notable from recent memory in Mel Brooks' The Producers -- Broadway musical and movie). Now all of the sudden it's out of bounds?

No friends, this is about Pats fans (and particularly those on Pats Pulpit) once again setting a double standard:

-- When Polian asks the officials to enforce the rules that are on the books, it's because he's whiny. But when Belichick acts like a jackass in a press conference when he's just lost, it's because he's intense and really wants to win.

-- When the Colts complain about going from a Monday night road game to a Sunday road game where the opponent is coming off a bye week (1st time in years that's happened -- and with good reason), they're whining again. But when Tom Brady's fine is $2000 dollars more than the last fine for the same infraction -- well that's more proof of a league-wide conspircay agasinst the Pats!

-- And when the Colts site satirizes the Pats as Nazis, we're out of bounds. But when a Pats Pulpiteer insinuates that Hoosiers are stupid or racist -- no problem!

At the end of the day, it's a game. One game. In the regular season. Not exactly the end of times. It seems to me that we have a little better grip on that over here. Not surprising. I encourage any and all to go over to the dark side site and tell them to lighten up and get lives. Of course if Tommasse holds true to form, as soon as any of you start winning arguments, you will be banned.      

by ctnyc on Oct 30, 2007 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love Kissing Suzy Kolber's take on Boston fans..
  1. Use Manny Ramirez to justify all your stereotypes about Latin Americans, but do NOT use David Ortiz to refute any of them.
  2. Bitch about Dane Cook "representing" you while, at the same time, rocking his exact same haircut.
  3. Boast about Bill Belichick's strategic genius as if it is somehow indirectly your doing. You'll see plenty of New England fans, when seeing another coach fuck up, say to you, "Now, would Belichick do something like that? Hell no. He'd do it totally different." You see, pointing out Belichick's acumen is a way of trying to pass it off as your own. He's smart, which makes you smart! Talk about Belichick the same way a proud father boasts about his child prodigy. You won't be any more intelligent. In fact, you'll still be a fucking eggplant. But you'll feel more intelligent, and that's nice.
  4. Own $1,000 worth of Red Sox merchandise, but no Patriots merchandise whatsoever. The lone exception: The Wes Welker jersey. Pats fans love Wes Welker because he's white. Just like them! They also love Tedi Bruschi, because he's kinda white. And hey, that's not bad either.
  5. Be sure to boast about all the hot chicks Tom Brady gets to nail. Because that's totally something for YOU to brag about.
  6. Complain earnestly about how many ads Peyton Manning appears in while continuing to brag about the Pats' O-line being Brady's five layers of protection. Lord knows Brady's never been in an ad for Stetson, or Movado, or Gap, or any of that shit.
  7. If you put a five into a jukebox at any sports bar, you must play "Satellite" by the Dave Matthews Band at least once.
  8. Act proudly ignorant of things you already know. Like so: "Hey, who was that colored guy in that "Rush Hour" movie? He was all right." You know damn well it's Chris Tucker, but the casual racism makes you 50% more charming to chicks in Framingham. This works even better if you're a Boston-area college student. Yeah, you go to Tufts, but you have no fackin' idea who those Maroon 5 faggots are. Sure, buddy.
  9. Be sure to try and distinguish yourself as a "real fan". All "real" Boston fans must be able to judge their fellow Boston fans' credibility. Never been to Fenway? Poseur. Didn't like the Pat Patriot logo? Bandwagoner. Went to college outside New England? Turncoat. Too young to remember the '86 Celtics? Faggot.
  10. Bitch about the Boston accents in any film or TV show. "Yeah, `The Depahted' was fackin' great, but they don't talk like that in fackin' REVEEEEAH!!!!!" Yes, no film could ever accurately depict just how real, how fierce your hardscrabble Newton upbringing was.
  11. Adopt the attitude that you, yes you, DESERVE this success. "Hey, we Pats fans know how it used to be back in the day. We earned these titles." Don't treat your team's good fortune as the stroke of good fortune it happens to be. No, no, no. Your championship has to be deeper then someone else's championship. It has to mean something more. Why? Because you fancy yourself as being introspective. Cockgobbler. Treat it like some sort of karmic reward for Len Bias dying, or some other twisted, idiotic explanation.
  12. Always treat your fandom as membership to some kind of exclusive club of super cool people. Like the whole Red Sox Nation thing. Oooh, you guys all root for the same team? How unique! How special! Fucking die. Be sure to adopt a siege mentality when your team is criticized. "Hey, you can't rip on Papelbon! He's fackin' one of us!" Whatever you need to make yourself feel less alone in the world.
  13. Be sure to grow your hair out under your artificially aged Red Sox hat so that little hair wings sprout out the side. That looks great.
  14. Laugh at your own jokes. You're so funny, guy!
  15. Dip.
  16. Shun Ben Affleck. Embrace Matt Damon. That apples line never gets old!
  17. Finally, bitch about everything: critics, certain players who personally disappoint you, etc. They call it New England for a reason. People in England love to fucking complain. You are the newer, even more annoying model.
Thanks to KSK, of course... excellent stuff as always.

by DallyDrake on Oct 30, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

off topic
But, I said a while back I thought Tommasse had banned me for no real reason. I apologize, he didn't, sorry. I just can't log in to some sites using firefox for some reason.

by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate Nazi's and I hate the Patriots...that's all
No one ever mentioned genocide. If the mere mention of the word "Nazi" means that, then we need to update Webster's Dictionary. The "throw you into the fire" line was an alternative to "throw you into the thick of things." I wasn't concenrned with how it sounded when I wrote that because how it was "referenced" was not my intention. I wish I would have used another expression now. I'm extremely sorry about your family history, hysterical quoting out of context Pats fan, it's a terrible shame and a blight on the human race. I don't know what else to say. i'M SORRY YOU'RE UPSET. You obviously don't really have a grasp on history at all, and are simply fixated on this one terrible chapter. Close inspection of what was written is so obviously not ANTI-SEMITIC it's ridiculous. Why did you have to put that spin on it dude? WHY DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PUT THAT SPIN ON IT? Someone mentioned how often Mel Brooks has satirized the Nazi's, and this was nothing worse than that. I hate Nazi's and I hate the Patriot's. That is whay I drew tha tcmparisonI mean Blue shoe was obviously discussing a VIDEO GAME. I'm sorry you don't see that. If merely mentioning a word means so much, I wish I would have used "terrorist."

As far as people running down the people here in Indy and Indiana as racist and Klan and what not, it is the sad history of a brief period for our state.....I suppose that's fair play, but you have taken the original meaning of the orginal putdown incorrectly,  and your response illustrates your ignorance of that fact. How does ME calling you a Nazi make ME a racist? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE HYSTERICAL PATRIOT's FAN? By the way, WE ALL KNOW THAT BOSTON IS ONE OF THE MOST RACIST CITIES IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, Weren'tthe Red Sox the last to integrate? Don't throw stones.....

So in conclusion, I apologize to anyone who is sensitive to historical references taken out of context, and I SINCERELY apologize if your feelings are really hurt tonight. That's it.

by peterbones on Oct 31, 2007 12:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you're an f'ing idiot, that's all
How ols are you? If you're older than 15, you're old enough to know that that some things are not socially acceptable as the underlying metaphor in a joke. Nobody seriously thinks you endorse genocide;nobody thinks you're a bad guy. There are just some places you don't go, and you're an absolute shit-for-brains for going there. Unfortunatley, rather than chastening such rhetoric, the site administrator has dramatically escalated it in an inflammatory manner. This site is an embarrassment to sbnation.

by mento on Oct 31, 2007 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

:D
INTERNET:

SERIOUS BUSINESS

by DallyDrake on Oct 31, 2007 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get a life
As I mentioned earlier, Nazis in general and Hitler in particular have been socially acceptable fodder for satire for years. The Producers set the record for winning Tony Awards, and it's plot is centered on the production of a musical entitled "Springtime for Hitler," complete with a singing Hitler and high-stepping Nazi chorus girls. The movie on which it is based was released in the late '60's.

The Blues Brothers movie, which I believe came out in 1980, has a subplot involving a Nazi organization, including the classic line, "Illinois Nazis... I hate those guys."

These are but two examples; I'm sure other posters can point out a lot more. But the point is that using Nazis in satire and comedy has been socially acceptable and in mainstream entertainment for at least 4 decades.

It's one thing to simply say, "I don't care for this kind of humor." Fine. Everybody has their own tastes. But it's quite another to self-righteously pretend that this humor has somehow crossed an unassailable social line. And then you resort to name-calling. How typical.

This is satire. The whole "good vs. evil" thing that we've been seeing in the national media is being exaggerated for the purposes of satire. It is done in a way that is consistent with social norms, two of which I have cited.

The only embarrassment is you coming here to slander and name-call in order to further your own agenda.    

by ctnyc on Oct 31, 2007 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oiaigimt
I'm sure some of the people getting all butt-hurt about this have never heard of Hogan's Heroes either.  And that show was on the air from '65-'71.  So sad.
Go Colts!

by KingRichard on Oct 31, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok...
Thats it! Since the Patriot fans cannot even take a joke from BBS and myself... I am taking it to the next level. The following picture is FACT, on the left is Bellicheat and on the right is Brady. Enjoy...

http://media.argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2006/04/fransisco_franco_y_adolf_hitler.jpg

by MasterRWayne on Oct 31, 2007 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch!
Mento,

That was unkind. I apologized. I never called anyone any names..... C'mon guy! Cheer up!

You are forgiven Mento. Here's a cookie!

by peterbones on Oct 31, 2007 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I go play nice (as Shady Brady)
I get a few nice responces from Pats fans and then Tomassee goes right back to bashing the Colts. Now we're the one's messing with the injury reports apparently. I wasn't aware that we have listed our star QB on the injury report for 4 straight years while he doesn't miss a game in that time.
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/09/14/tom-brady-50-straight-weeks-on-injury-report/

by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2007 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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