Simeon Rice is a Colt
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Rice was born to play DE in a Dungy Tampa 2, and had some great years playing under Dungy when he coached there. Rice won a Super Bowl in 2002 with Jon Gruden as his head coach.
Now, he's in Indy, and the most obvious question is why? Is Dwight Freeney really THAT hurt? The Colts are calling it a foot sprain. Whatever. I'm not surprised if they called Rob Morris' injury a "knee bruise."
The other question is how did the Colts open a roster spot for Rice? Hey, maybe they cut Moorehead! Dare to dream, I guess.
This is the second time in two years that Bill Polian has made a move to get a former Buc from Dungy's tenure to Indy. Last year, it was Anthony "Booger" McFarland. Do not be surprised to see Rice playing a little DT in Indy. Health was the main issue with him in Tampa and Denver. But, if Polian signed him, it must mean he's shown them something.
Update [2007-11-13 8:59:53 by BigBlueShoe]: From styg50 in the comments:
Also, he insisted after he left that Denver wasn't playing him in the right position (RDE I believe), which isn't exactly true. He was rotated like everyone else on the line and played both ends depending on the package. He wasn't any more effective on one side than the other.
He is a unique player who could turn it around, and if the Colts are winning, maybe that is just what he needs.
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The indy star
heres the link
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071112/SPORTS03/71112049/1058/SPORTS03
hopefully this isnt the case. im currently waiting for the official website of the colts to release polians radio show for this week.
by metalmilitia on Nov 12, 2007 9:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd guess this is more of a
by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2007 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
by KingRichard on Nov 13, 2007 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dungian
Not to be confused with a Florian ANALyst.
by ctnyc on Nov 13, 2007 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rgr that
by KingRichard on Nov 13, 2007 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Freeney must really be hurt
by Terry on Nov 12, 2007 9:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Your mom
by MasterRWayne on Nov 12, 2007 10:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
considering she's been dead for 10 years
by Terry on Nov 13, 2007 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd Bet
by MixFMKyle on Nov 12, 2007 10:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
great pick up
by WayneWayneJr on Nov 13, 2007 1:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rice was great...
Also, he insisted after he left that Denver wasn't playing him in the right position (RDE I believe), which isn't exactly true. He was rotated like everyone else on the line and played both ends depending on the package. He wasn't any more effective on one side than the other.
He is a unique player who could turn it around, and if the Colts are winning, maybe that is just what he needs.
If you can do all that for him (don't require power, don't require speed, don't ask him to play where he is needed, and win for him) than this is a pickup that could serve you well until Freeney gets healthy.
Otherwise, look out. You don't need Rice's drama anymore than we did...
by styg50 on Nov 13, 2007 1:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Buyer Beware!
So Denver activated him for his first game. He did nothing. After the game it was revealed that his shoulder injury wasn't healed. He swallowed his pride (a little bit) and admitted he might not have been 100%, but that strength was returning daily. Denver deactivated him, and it was pretty much over at that point. He made comments about how he was being paid $3mil to rehab, and that he didn't know what he was doing in Denver. He set a terrible example for the young guys in our locker room, and even Lynch began maintaining his distance from Rice, apologizing for helping to bring Rice to town.
I think Rice was perfectly within his rights to be upset with his lot, wanting to play and not being able to because younger guys and no-name free agents were able to beat him out in practice each week. But the problem with Rice is he doesn't deal with those issues personally or between himself and the coach. Rice makes a point of airing his thoughts out to the media, and taking his personal problems to the papers and reporters, as if trying to make it seem like it was less his fault.
After seeing Moss work out in NE and T.O. work out for DAL, I suppose anything is possible, and the Colts might be just the organization (and reuniting with Dungy, of course) to absorb a character like Rice and keep him happy. I hope you're not, because I don't think it is a credit to your organization to be compatible with a guy like Rice.
Here's to hoping you use him for the time being, get more out of him than Denver did, and dispose of him when you're done.
Don't get burned by "Hot 97."
by styg50 on Nov 13, 2007 1:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Players Play
So, let me be the first to say...
WELCOME TO CHAMPIONAPOLIS, SIMEON!
by MonkeyBusiness on Nov 13, 2007 3:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The difference...
by John Bena on Nov 13, 2007 7:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
McNabb
by MasterRWayne on Nov 13, 2007 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Make no mistake, there are many Dallas players who do not like TO. But, since they are winning now, everything is rosy. However, when they start losing (and they will), you will see the rumblings and the grumblings. You'll see TO point fingers (as he's always done), and he will likely not finish his career in Dallas.
That's TO's MO: Selfish player who can kill a locker room.
by BigBlueShoe on Nov 13, 2007 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
by John Bena on Nov 13, 2007 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no he didn't
If you think T.O. is the same old selfish T.O., you're dead wrong.
by Terry on Nov 13, 2007 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
as usual BBS
BTW, the Cowboys won't lose more than once this season, count on it.
by Terry on Nov 13, 2007 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
I agree that "problem players" are all almost universally on bad teams. But it is still their choice to be a problem. The players have agents, a union, and their own common sense to help them make the proper decisions about when and where they play, and what kind of risks they are willing to take, with their mouths or with their contracts. If you are on a bad team there are perfectly good remedies and situations, and to Simeon's credit he actually created a better remedy than already existed by forfeiting part of his guaranteed signing bonus, after Denver signed some new young DEs.
But what does it say about a "problem player" who has no driving force within them to be independently good, regardless of what others are doing? In football I would say that it is a strong indicator that they have deeper concerns then their job (which may or may not be ok), and at worst it would indicate that they are second-handed psychologies. I would classify TO as a second-hand life, living more through how he is perceived than who he thinks he is. But he can change. Moss can change. They may already have. The test isn't when they are succeeding, but when the pressure is back on.
I don't know what to make of Rice. But I do know it will be real easy to find out. If he can produce and be effective for IND, than he isn't a liar. You need to listen closely if he talks about his injury and his performance (or lack thereof). And then watch.
I stand by my assessment that the Colts do not want to be the best friend of Rice, but merely a (hopefully temporary) employer. He says he was humbled by going to waivers. I don't believe him. He said he was humbled by being cut by TB too, and eventually he got over it, if he was ever humbled at all.
by styg50 on Nov 13, 2007 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
got him on the cheap
Listen rice played in Arizona for years, and on a bad bucs team i there wasn't really anything from him the the national press the way we heard from TO or Moss in behaviour and mouthing off
and honestly do you think Dungy would accept a player he thinks has an attitude problem? He knows Rice...
so i'd say its worth the risk.. if nothing else we cut him when freeney is back healthy, but he may be so happy to be somewhere where there is a serious chance of another ring it isn't an issue.
by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2007 11:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Affordable
Plus it is potentially huge that he is returning to play under his former coach. While I don't believe Dungy would take a flyer on an attitude problem (unfortunately I don't have the same kind of faith in Shanahan), and I don't believe Rice is even remotely close to a T.O. caliber problem, his comments about being humbled disturbed me. It is essentially the same thing he said when he came to Denver but he worded it much differently. He worded it in the perfect way for Dungy to tune into it. And he is familiar with Dungy. I wonder if he isn't saying exactly what he thinks Dungy wants to hear.
And I just don't know about it being worth the risk. He had little impact, good or bad here in Denver, but left a trail of "What ifs?" What if we had someone else playing who may have been productive? What if he had a negative effect on our multitude of young players? What if his comments to the media were having a negative effect on how the team was getting along? At best, we wasted a little money and time. At worst we may have wasted money and time we desperately needed to get off to a good start this year.
With 2 losses back to back, and the second one coming in the midst of a great game by Manning, the Colts are not in a position to absorb the psychological strain that is a worst-case-for-Rice-scenario.
by styg50 on Nov 13, 2007 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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