NFL recaps
From around SB Nation:
- Once again, I've managed to piss off every Bears fan in Cook County by saying their GM, Jerry Angelo, should be fired for his botched offseason moves in 2007. Those moves have cost the Bears a chance to get back to the Super Bowl, in my opinion. Trading Thomas Jones, signing Adam Archuleta, and drafting Cedric Benson (back in 2005) with the #4 overall pick. Angelo stinks, and it's a shame because the Bears could have taken the next step this season. It's not over for them, but it still looks bleak.
- People are finally starting to catch on to the fact that Vince Young stinks. He had another key INT and fumble against a BAD Cincy defense yesterday. Vince young averages one fumble a game. Do you realize how fumblriffic your have to be to nearly AVERAGE one a game? Dave Krieg, Mr. Fumble himself, didn't AVERAGE a fumble a game. In 22 games, Vince Young has fumbled 17 times. This season, he's thrown 5 TDs and 12 INTs. What, no Pro Bowl for Vince? Those were about his numbers last season. And this year, the team is better. Better defense. Better running game. Yet, Vince still stinks, and the excuse making is still loud and clear. Can you imagine the kind of grief guys like Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Donovan McNabb would have gotten if they started their first 22 games with 17 fumbles, 25 INTs, and 17 TDs through the air? On the flip side, Tennessee's usually stellar defense is cracking of late. Maybe it has something to do with the multiple turnovers their offense is giving up. Ya think?
Jimmy, the fine writer over at MCM, weighs in on Vince:
The only thing I have to say right now is that Vince Young is the Titans QB. Replacing him with Kerry Collins might be better in the short term, but it is not what is best for the long term success of this franchise. Vince has to play through this. Joy Kat has sent me an email after every game the Titans lost telling me how bad Vince is. Be happy that I banned her so that you don't have to listen to the same crap she was spewing on here for the month she was with us. The season isn't over. Just keep telling yourself that and maybe, probably not but maybe, you will feel a little better.As bad as Vince is playing, Jimmy is right. However, if the Titans miss the playoffs, management needs to take a long, hard look at Vince Young and make a decision on whether or not he really is "the future" of that team. - I still have no idea why Mike Shanahan kicked off to Devon Hester TWICE. And Todd Sauerbrun SUCKS. Kicking it down the middle of the field twice to Hester? Did the HGH go to your head as well, Todd?
MHR's TheSportsGuru weighs in:
We can look to lay blame [for the loss] all over the place. I direct it at two people - Todd Sauerbrun and Mike Shanahan. - Nice to see Carson Palmer kicking ass again. Chad Johnson is still garbage, and if Cincy has any balls this offseason they will fire Marvin Lewis and trade Chad Johnson.
- Philly's defense may have proven a point with New England: Pressure Brady and the Patriots struggle. And, as thought, New England's defense is just not that great. 28 points, at home, to A.J. Feeley? Please.
- This Jacksonville Jaguars team is the best one they've fielded since they went to the AFC Championship game in 1996. David Garrard STILL hasn't thrown an INT. That is simply amazing folks.
- My God. Cleveland is currently the #6 seed in the AFC. Unreal. Goes to show you that ANYONE can win.
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Pats/Eagles
That said, Feeley had lots of success over the middle, and that's a problem. He played a great game. Blue print for stopping the Patriots? I'll take 31 points any time.
The offensive pass interference call on Moss was pathetic; the refs were clearly looking to make a call, and they did.
Nobody has an answer for Welker, and Gaffney came off the bench and had a fine game.
Nobody here will mention it, but losing Sammy Morris for the year really hurts.
All in all, next year the Pats have to get younger and faster in the secondary and at linebacker.
by BobDee on Nov 26, 2007 10:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Pats weakness is definitely
If any good qb gets time, they can be successful and score points on that defense.
by Terry on Nov 26, 2007 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
with healthy team
whining about penalties is stupid, and moss is infamous for pushing off on defenders, so whether it was that play or another he probably deserves the flag a lot more than he gets it (and i thought that when he was still playing for vikings... it is just his game)
by bluegirl on Nov 26, 2007 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pushing off
by Ed OG on Nov 27, 2007 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I got news for you BBS
by Terry on Nov 26, 2007 11:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Grossman
I was very impressed with him.
by BigBlueShoe on Nov 26, 2007 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
umm...
Hard for a qb to do well if his guys:
-give him shit protection
-drop balls
But then again I actually watch games instead of boxscores and see what REALLY happens. I also realize Qbs aren't Jesus and can't make shit happen like have nobody pressure them and force guys to hold onto the ball...or even force guys to run good routes.
Obviously the qb is important but the reality is the qb is just one cog of the machine....the nfl isn't a video game where the qb controls everything....
by Rob L on Nov 26, 2007 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
grossman
by bluegirl on Nov 26, 2007 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rob L, don't kid yourself
by Terry on Nov 26, 2007 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wtf
I like wayne and marvin but I'll take chad over those two because I think chad can go over the middle better than them. Peyts throwing to Chad...man that would be nice.
by Rob L on Nov 26, 2007 11:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
When you are 3-7
And no, he's not the best receiver in football. I'd take Marvin or Reggie over Chad any day.
by BigBlueShoe on Nov 26, 2007 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CJ
Marvin is going to retire this year, and Polian wants to pick up CJ from the Bengals, made all the easier because CJ wants to play for a winning team with a quarterback of the same caliber he is used to.
I'm unsure how he'd mesh with Reggie, who is clearly the #1 on our team now, or how he'd deal with his silly antics, which work when you're on a ragtag bunch like the Bengals, but not the whitebread Colts.
Also, with Moorehead out (and hopefully soon gone), he could keep the Ocho Cinco.
by clownsaw on Nov 26, 2007 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
trading for players
by bluegirl on Nov 26, 2007 12:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gonzo
I think it's not inconcievable to see Ocho Cinco in speed blue next season. Dungy and Marvin Lewis are good friends, and you could potentially see a Moss-like situation where a troubled player gets put in a winning environment and turns it around. I think if you've got Manning throwing you the ball, you're going to raise your game.
by MonkeyBusiness on Nov 26, 2007 12:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gonzalez
by shake n bake on Nov 26, 2007 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
troubled player
yes gonzo was drafted as a slot receiver... but he did look good last game filling in for marvin (and if marving retired we might have cap room to keep clark and sanders....)
that being said, i would be a bit surprised in marvin did decide to hang it up... he loves the game and his injury (if they are telling the truth) is one that doesn't have long term implications and he is still playing at a probowl level..
by bluegirl on Nov 26, 2007 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Troubled?
I thought he was fine off the field too, right? Feel free to correct me.
by clownsaw on Nov 26, 2007 2:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whoa Whoa Whoa...
I doubt Cincy lets Chad go anywhere anyway.
by Marked Hoosier on Nov 26, 2007 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
loud and obnoxious
by bluegirl on Nov 26, 2007 3:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
honestly
by KingRichard on Nov 26, 2007 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ya
i can post it on youtube for those who haven't seen it.
by torontocoltsfan on Nov 26, 2007 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Manning and Saturday Exchange
by Blueisgood on Nov 26, 2007 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
celebrations are about 'me'
by bluegirl on Nov 27, 2007 12:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Salary Cap
- We have Bob and Dallas to resign. Who else has a contract up at the end of the year? Dallas and Bob are probably a bargin right now since they are still in their rookie contracts, but I can see them taking hometown discounts to stay of this team.
- If Marvin retires and Dallas and Bob get paid, how much cap room are we talking about having? If it's enough to get an Ocho Cinco, then I say we pay the man. He's great over the middle, he has amazing hands, and I wouldn't mind seeing those "antics" every week. Usually it just draws a fine and not a penalty. If he wants it to be about him, and the team isn't getting punished, then fine I'll take him.
by Kyle321N on Nov 27, 2007 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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