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  • Once again, I've managed to piss off every Bears fan in Cook County by saying their GM, Jerry Angelo, should be fired for his botched offseason moves in 2007. Those moves have cost the Bears a chance to get back to the Super Bowl, in my opinion. Trading Thomas Jones, signing Adam Archuleta, and drafting Cedric Benson (back in 2005) with the #4 overall pick. Angelo stinks, and it's a shame because the Bears could have taken the next step this season. It's not over for them, but it still looks bleak.
  • People are finally starting to catch on to the fact that Vince Young stinks. He had another key INT and fumble against a BAD Cincy defense yesterday. Vince young averages one fumble a game. Do you realize how fumblriffic your have to be to nearly AVERAGE one a game? Dave Krieg, Mr. Fumble himself, didn't AVERAGE a fumble a game. In 22 games, Vince Young has fumbled 17 times. This season, he's thrown 5 TDs and 12 INTs. What, no Pro Bowl for Vince? Those were about his numbers last season. And this year, the team is better. Better defense. Better running game. Yet, Vince still stinks, and the excuse making is still loud and clear. Can you imagine the kind of grief guys like Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Donovan McNabb would have gotten if they started their first 22 games with 17 fumbles, 25 INTs, and 17 TDs through the air? On the flip side, Tennessee's usually stellar defense is cracking of late. Maybe it has something to do with the multiple turnovers their offense is giving up. Ya think?

    Jimmy, the fine writer over at MCM, weighs in on Vince:

    The only thing I have to say right now is that Vince Young is the Titans QB. Replacing him with Kerry Collins might be better in the short term, but it is not what is best for the long term success of this franchise. Vince has to play through this. Joy Kat has sent me an email after every game the Titans lost telling me how bad Vince is. Be happy that I banned her so that you don't have to listen to the same crap she was spewing on here for the month she was with us. The season isn't over. Just keep telling yourself that and maybe, probably not but maybe, you will feel a little better.
    As bad as Vince is playing, Jimmy is right. However, if the Titans miss the playoffs, management needs to take a long, hard look at Vince Young and make a decision on whether or not he really is "the future" of that team.
  • I still have no idea why Mike Shanahan kicked off to Devon Hester TWICE. And Todd Sauerbrun SUCKS. Kicking it down the middle of the field twice to Hester? Did the HGH go to your head as well, Todd?

    MHR's TheSportsGuru weighs in:

    We can look to lay blame [for the loss] all over the place. I direct it at two people - Todd Sauerbrun and Mike Shanahan.
  • Nice to see Carson Palmer kicking ass again. Chad Johnson is still garbage, and if Cincy has any balls this offseason they will fire Marvin Lewis and trade Chad Johnson.
  • Philly's defense may have proven a point with New England: Pressure Brady and the Patriots struggle. And, as thought, New England's defense is just not that great. 28 points, at home, to A.J. Feeley? Please.
  • This Jacksonville Jaguars team is the best one they've fielded since they went to the AFC Championship game in 1996. David Garrard STILL hasn't thrown an INT. That is simply amazing folks.
  • My God. Cleveland is currently the #6 seed in the AFC. Unreal. Goes to show you that ANYONE can win.

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Pats/Eagles
Philly had nothing to lose in that game. The betting line was crazy, Feeley knows that win or lose he's back on the bench, no expectations for the team, and they're playing a Pats team that has clinched the East.

That said, Feeley had lots of success over the middle, and that's a problem. He played a great game. Blue print for stopping the Patriots? I'll take 31 points any time.

The offensive pass interference call on Moss was pathetic; the refs were clearly looking to make a call, and they did.

Nobody has an answer for Welker, and Gaffney came off the bench and had a fine game.

Nobody here will mention it, but losing Sammy Morris for the year really hurts.

All in all, next year the Pats have to get younger and faster in the secondary and at linebacker.

by BobDee on Nov 26, 2007 10:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Pats weakness is definitely
their secondary, more specifically the middle of the field against seam and in routes. Like Madden said, they play against deep passes outside and basically give you the middle of the field.

If any good qb gets time, they can be successful and score points on that defense.

by Terry on Nov 26, 2007 11:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

with healthy team
with a healthy line and marvin back or gonzo keeps improving... we could beat this team in our house or theirs...

whining about penalties is stupid, and moss is infamous for pushing off on defenders, so whether it was that play or another he probably deserves the flag a lot more than he gets it (and i thought that when he was still playing for vikings... it is just his game)

by bluegirl on Nov 26, 2007 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pushing off
Plaxico Burress pushes off nearly every play it seems like and never gets flagged.

by Ed OG on Nov 27, 2007 2:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I got news for you BBS
the Bears will never take the next step until they get a good qb, neither Grossman nor Griese are the answer.

by Terry on Nov 26, 2007 11:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Grossman
I think he turned a corner yesterday. He was masterful in the final 5 minutes of the game. In fact, he looked very Romo-like, eluding the rush and making tough throws.

I was very impressed with him.

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by BigBlueShoe on Nov 26, 2007 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

umm...
doesn't help when the bears players keep dropping balls. I counted 3 straight drops in the end of regulation game tying bears drive yesterday.

Hard for a qb to do well if his guys:

-give him shit protection

-drop balls

But then again I actually watch games instead of boxscores and see what REALLY happens. I also realize Qbs aren't Jesus and can't make shit happen like have nobody pressure them and force guys to hold onto the ball...or even force guys to run good routes.

Obviously the qb is important but the reality is the qb is just one cog of the machine....the nfl isn't a video game where the qb controls everything....

by Rob L on Nov 26, 2007 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

grossman
yes, but grossman has had a lot of chances.  yes his line isn't the best, but he makes a lot of bad decisions.... which result in a lot of picks.. he has a strong arm, but there are a lot of passes that just don't end up where they should go to give the receiver a good shot at a catch... no his offensive line isn't great, and their running game is a mess, but he was this bad last year too... it just got ignored since they were winning..

by bluegirl on Nov 26, 2007 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rob L, don't kid yourself
the NFL is all about the QB. Do you actually think its just a coincidence that the best teams in the league also have the best QBs. Its not.

by Terry on Nov 26, 2007 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wtf
what is with the bias against Chad Johnson with Colts fans? The guy has been the best receiver the last few years and this year is right up there despite Cinci's pathetic offense this season.

I like wayne and marvin but I'll take chad over those two because I think chad can go over the middle better than them. Peyts throwing to Chad...man that would be nice.

by Rob L on Nov 26, 2007 11:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

When you are 3-7
the endzone crap needs to stop. It makes you, and your team, look bad. Also, the guy got into a fist fight with his coaches during halftime of A PLAYOFF GAME. I don't care if he can fly, I don't want such a locker-room cancer on my team.

And no, he's not the best receiver in football. I'd take Marvin or Reggie over Chad any day.

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by BigBlueShoe on Nov 26, 2007 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

CJ
Random rumor that I've heard...

Marvin is going to retire this year, and Polian wants to pick up CJ from the Bengals, made all the easier because CJ wants to play for a winning team with a quarterback of the same caliber he is used to.

I'm unsure how he'd mesh with Reggie, who is clearly the #1 on our team now, or how he'd deal with his silly antics, which work when you're on a ragtag bunch like the Bengals, but not the whitebread Colts.

Also, with Moorehead out (and hopefully soon gone), he could keep the Ocho Cinco.

by clownsaw on Nov 26, 2007 12:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

trading for players
after the fiasco with corey simon... i doubt polian would be looking to trade for any big player even if marvin retires....  morely likely to draft and I'd move gonzo in for marvin... i thought he looked good against the falcons... yes their defense isn't great, BUT he is just starting to get on the same page with peyton...

by bluegirl on Nov 26, 2007 12:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gonzo
Isn't Marvin's replacement. Gonzo is a slot receiver who was designed to replace Stokley. If Marvin's retiring, the Colts would need another home run threat opposite Reggie.

I think it's not inconcievable to see Ocho Cinco in speed blue next season. Dungy and Marvin Lewis are good friends, and you could potentially see a Moss-like situation where a troubled player gets put in a winning environment and turns it around. I think if you've got Manning throwing you the ball, you're going to raise your game.

"Hey, if you want me to come here, I want to come here. But if you don't, I'm going to beat your butt for 15 years playing in the AFC." -Peyton Manning-

by MonkeyBusiness on Nov 26, 2007 12:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gonzalez
played pretty well on the outside Thursday, 6 for 105, and in the Tampa Bay game, 7 for 71, also while he was on the outside. As long as Marvin and Wayne are healthy, yeah he's the slot guy, but he can play on the outside now. When Marvin calls it a career he'll be more than ready to be a #2 behind Wayne.

by shake n bake on Nov 26, 2007 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

troubled player
troubled player though is exactly the issue..  neither polian nor dungy are big on this type of player, and i doubt he would fit in with the colts just on personality alone...

yes gonzo was drafted as a slot receiver... but he did look good last game filling in for marvin (and if marving retired we might have cap room to keep clark and sanders....)

that being said, i would be a bit surprised in marvin did decide to hang it up... he loves the game and his injury (if they are telling the truth) is one that doesn't have long term implications and he is still playing at a probowl level..

by bluegirl on Nov 26, 2007 1:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Troubled?
How exactly is Chad Johnson troubled? He has lots of on the field antics that are goofy and distracting, but certainly not antagonistic.
  I thought he was fine off the field too, right? Feel free to correct me.

by clownsaw on Nov 26, 2007 2:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa Whoa Whoa...
all this Chad Johnson talk about coming here... but can we even afford him?  Don't we have to address keeping Bob "Chuck Norris is afraid of me" Sanders?  Plus a couple other guys?

I doubt Cincy lets Chad go anywhere anyway.

Go Colts!

by Marked Hoosier on Nov 26, 2007 3:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

loud and obnoxious
chad johnson is loud and obnoxious... how many times has he been fined by the league for his stunts?  and how many times have we seen him yelling at other players on the side lines? when do you see marvin or  reggie doing that...  he just doesn't fit, and  as mentioned we couldn't afford him.... polian and dungy will continue as they are ..build by drafting and free agent rookies...

by bluegirl on Nov 26, 2007 3:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

honestly
You'd have to be an idiot to think that no one on our team yells at someone else on the sideline.  Manning and Saturday almost got in a fight one time because Manning was screaming at the o-line.  I don't understand people's hate for Chad.  He is an amazing receiver, antics or not, he has a great personality and isn't to be taken seriously.  All he does is tries to have fun.  Who gives a shit if his team is 3-7 or even 0-10?  If you play professional football, you gotta have some fun somewhere.  Spare me that hardcore "Trade his ass and fire Lewis because they stink and should act like losers!"  You go play football for a living and see how you like being told to "act like a loser."
Go Colts!

by KingRichard on Nov 26, 2007 6:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ya
the manning saturday exchange was very intense.
i can post it on youtube for those who haven't seen it.

by torontocoltsfan on Nov 26, 2007 7:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Manning and Saturday Exchange
I'm sure the Manning and Saturday exchange was about making the team better, (i.e. team performance) whereas Chad Johnson's was about himself and what could get him more celebrations (i.e. touchdowns).

by Blueisgood on Nov 26, 2007 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

celebrations are about 'me'
and when it gets your team a 15 yard penalty  it is selfish and stupid...

by bluegirl on Nov 27, 2007 12:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Salary Cap
I have a couple questions about the Colts Cap situation.
  1. We have Bob and Dallas to resign.  Who else has a contract up at the end of the year?  Dallas and Bob are probably a bargin right now since they are still in their rookie contracts, but I can see them taking hometown discounts to stay of this team.
  2. If Marvin retires and Dallas and Bob get paid, how much cap room are we talking about having?  If it's enough to get an Ocho Cinco, then I say we pay the man.  He's great over the middle, he has amazing hands, and I wouldn't mind seeing those "antics" every week.  Usually it just draws a fine and not a penalty. If he wants it to be about him, and the team isn't getting punished, then fine I'll take him.
Colts fan in Chicagoland. Go Colts!

by Kyle321N on Nov 27, 2007 1:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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