Sore winners? [UPDATE: Yep, that's what they are in New England]

by Brad Wells on Nov 5, 2007 3:45 PM EST in Colts Analysis

Patriots owner Bob Kraft had no comment Monday after his accusations that the Colts cheated were proven false. He did offer the following written statement: "Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

Is there such a thing? Apparently in New England there is. Barely three months after their organization had two cheaters (head coach Bill Belichick and safety Rodney Harrison) caught and punished by the NFL, and barely 24 hours after they beat the Colts in a game billed as "Armageddon," the Patriots are now accusing the Colts of... cheating?

The NFL is looking into allegations that the Indianapolis Colts piped in noise during the game Sunday between the Colts and the Patriots. The charge comes after Patriots President Jonathan Kraft became the latest NFL team executive to accuse the Colts of the distracting tactic that is against the rules.

"We're aware of it and we're looking into it," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday. "It may just be the TV feed from CBS, but we're checking it out."

Observers at the game said there seemed to be a "skip" in the sound during the game Sunday, which the Patriots won 24-20. That might confirm the long-held suspicion among many people in the NFL that the Colts play loud crowd noise to help distract opponents when the other team is on offense.

"We're aware of the accusations, but there has never been anything to substantiate it," Aiello said.

Gee, I've never seen whining from a team after they've WON a game, but I guess that's just how they roll in Bawston. Whine when they lose. Whine when they win. I guess they're mad that they didn't get to roll up 40 points on a team, or that their offense spent most of the day peeling themselves off the RCA turf rather than doing cartwheels into the endzone.

Honestly, is the collective age maturation of the New England Patriots that of a ten-year-old?

Of course, the irony of a team caught cheating making accusations about another team supposedly cheating is charming and cute, in a creepy, pathetic sort of way; kind of like OJ Simpson offering marriage counseling.

Look, we've heard this accusation before. Jerry Jones' Saturday night gimp, Ed Werder, made the claim back in 2005, and had no evidence to back up his "observation." As Mr. Aiello said, people can say what they want. Without evidence, it's just whining. People make dumb claims all the time, and when cheaters themselves are accusing others of cheating, it's kind of hard to take them seriously.

That said, if the Colts were piping in crowd noise, or any noise for that matter, in blatant violation of league rules, I'd expect them to be punished as the NFL sees fit. Then, I'd expect some accountability. New England fans may tolerate and even reward cheating. Indianapolis fans do not.

However, until we read the words "Colts punished for cheating," it's just the mad ravings of an owner (Bob Kraft) who is whining after his team won the game. How pathetically stupid is that?

You think Bob is scared to see these Colts again? Is the Pope Catholic? Does Rodney Harrison inject HGH into his cock?

Update [2007-11-5 15:56:57 by BigBlueShoe]: Well, apparently, you can look like a loser after you win a game. Just ask Bob Kraft and the Patriots, who claimed the Colts were piping in crowd noise during "Armageddon" yesterday. Apparently, ole Bob isn't all that interested in facts when he makes claims about cheating:

An unusual sound on the telecast of Sunday's game between the Indianapolis Colts and New England Patriots was a CBS production issue and not evidence of the Colts breaking NFL rules by enhancing noise at the RCA Dome, a network spokesman said today.

"It was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck," the network's LeslieAnne Wade said. "In no way was it from the stadium.

Hey Bob, if you want to see what a cheater looks like, remove your head from your ass for a few moments, look down your office hallway, and call out your head coach's name.

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Colts DID NOT CHEAT

CBS TAKES BLAME FOR SOUND GLITCH

Per Schefter, the vibrating sound as the Pats were driving at the start of the fourth quarter was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck. Schefter says that the sound could not be heard in the stadium....

We've spoken to some radio folks who also believe that the phenomenon was not the result of a glitch during the use of artificial crowd noise.

Source: PFT

by Philosopher723 on Nov 5, 2007 3:48 PM EST reply actions

what amazes me

is why the pats care whether it happened or not since they won. I mean they won't have to play at the RCA dome again in all likihood this year, so who cares?

by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Nov 5, 2007 4:55 PM EST reply actions

He won't...

have to play ever again in the RCA dome, unless they lose 2 AFC Conference games and we win out and meet them in the AFC Champ game here. I'd say possible, but not likely.

Hello... Lucas Oil Stadium

by the21eraser on Nov 5, 2007 5:48 PM EST up reply actions

Well screw it then.

Somebody get Marvin some HGH. Stat.

by beckmania on Nov 5, 2007 4:58 PM EST reply actions

Suprized but shouldn't be

from what I've heard on ESPN so far today, the Pats ball-washing has died down to a low hum. Could it be because calling the season 3 months early is bad far ratings?

by shake n bake on Nov 5, 2007 5:08 PM EST reply actions

another one

troll troll troll

hey at least the site is getting alot of exposure BBS

by torontocoltsfan on Nov 5, 2007 6:17 PM EST reply actions

LOL!

Tell me about it...all these troll hits are going to crash the site.

by johnnyU on Nov 5, 2007 6:39 PM EST reply actions

No apology

You won't see an apology from Kraft. He is from Massachusetts. They don't apologize or express regret no matter how much damage they cause. It goes along with the win at all costs philosophy. As long as you win, you can do anything you want.

by Blueisgood on Nov 5, 2007 7:42 PM EST reply actions

Absolutey hysterical

"You won't see an apology from Kraft. He is from Massachusetts. They don't apologize or express regret no matter how much damage they cause. It goes along with the win at all costs philosophy. As long as you win, you can do anything you want."

Born and raised in Mass, I am a NE fan. This year proves to be unlike any other. World Series, The Celtics might win a couple, the Bruins are doing great, and I have gone to Foxboro faithfully to see my team play since I was a little girl.

The 'win at all costs philosophy' is something crazy to read. I respect the Colts, I love Peyton, he is the only pro-athlete I can see that I still like after he has endorsed himself into more commercials than anyone else has, but still the Pats are regarded as some team from Hell. Can it just be that they are finally great, having drafted for depth, with one of the smartest coaches in the game?

I cheered for the Colts in the last superbowl. I was happy they won. I have traveled, myself as a coach, and liked my time in Indy. But it's true, as bad as Boston fans have a rap elsewhere in the country, every other team has fans just as bad. Nobody is innocent in sports. And to make statements that categorize people from Mass like the one above make me happy to be here, because hate spawns from jealousy, and at this point, I think all fans are jealous of the Pats fans. I can only imagine the things that would have been said on here if the Colts won the game, even with all of their penalty yards helping them.

I'm wondering, Indy. Does this make me a troll?

by bostoncoach on Nov 5, 2007 8:55 PM EST reply actions

With apologies to Monty Python...

She's a troll!

Ban her! Ban the troll!

by Zumone on Nov 5, 2007 9:12 PM EST up reply actions

In a word

No. :)

Please make an account and post a diary, add some comments, and make some noise. Accounts are free, and only require an email address.

by Brad Wells on Nov 5, 2007 9:36 PM EST up reply actions

You

are not a troll because you come here and provide a good argument. All Pats fans are not trolls. You can not see the comments that started this because they have been deleted and basically were nothing more than attempting to rile people up. The comments consisted basically of nothing more than "Colts are losers." In the spirit of discussion though, who have the Pats drafted for depth?

by johnnyU on Nov 5, 2007 9:30 PM EST reply actions

What>?

Hey I hate the Pats but what type of comment is this? I've been to Massachusetts and it's a fine state.

by MasterRWayne on Nov 5, 2007 9:39 PM EST reply actions

Hypocrite

Today he's bashing the Colts fans for "crying" and "making excuses."

But, the day before the game, talking about Sunday's game "No players with the flu. No bug-eyed Reche Caldwell. No second-rate linebackers covering a slot tight end."

What is that. Are those what I think they are...?
Tomassee making excuses for the AFC championship game last year? No, it can't be. The same Tomassee that's calling Colts fans babies for the same things today?

Yeah, he has nothing to say to me calling him out over there so far, he's had almost 7 hours and he's posted on the site in the time since.

by shake n bake on Nov 5, 2007 11:46 PM EST reply actions

link to his pregame crying

http://www.patspulpit.com/story/2007/11/4/13352/2526

by shake n bake on Nov 5, 2007 11:47 PM EST up reply actions

wow

just browsing through the patspulpit game thread.
half the posts are tomasee complaining about every last penalty and "no-call" against the colts.
like not just the pass interference stuff
EVERYTHING
HE WHINES ALL GAME.

by torontocoltsfan on Nov 6, 2007 12:30 AM EST up reply actions

Especially ironic

Considering that Randy Moss gets away with pass intereference at least once in every game on touchdown catches. While the Pats fans complain about the calls against them, do they every acknowledge the ones they repeatedly get away with?

by Philosopher723 on Nov 6, 2007 10:46 AM EST up reply actions

Make it. Please

Face it. We had you soiling your panties at the end of the AFC champs game. And this year we finished you off. That means you squeaked out one win...and both games in your house.

Come play in our house. Please do your best to make it there. Winning the SB this year won't be the same without beating your blueboys one more time.

It always ends with Manning blaming his teammates for the loss. Beautiful!

Don't lose to the Chargers. That might ruin our next date. See ya.

by DaveG on Nov 6, 2007 10:12 PM EST up reply actions

heh

Selective memory? Last two times we were in Foxboro we won dipshit.

Go Colts!

by KingRichard on Nov 7, 2007 1:54 PM EST up reply actions

jfaoijdfa

Excuse me, the last two times the COLTS were in Foxboro, they won...dipshit.

Go Colts!

by KingRichard on Nov 7, 2007 1:54 PM EST up reply actions

Pats fan agreeing with Colts fas

Lay it on thick because he deserves it! That's what I think of this noise crap. Its embarrassing to me as a Pats fan to hear that Kraft made that bogus claim of piped in noise. Its spoils a great come back win in a great game.

Anyway, see you again in January.

P.S. Watch out for San Diego. They are going to be PISSED after that embarrassment against Minn. Beware of a letdown.

Trashing the other teams fans is not the same as enjoying your favorite teams. Stay cool.

by GenericGerry on Nov 6, 2007 8:46 AM EST reply actions

January

Much as I love the Colts and hope for the best, I'm not at all counting on making it to the AFC Championship game. If the injuries keep piling up, Pittsburgh or Tennessee or someone could certainly take us out.

by Masson on Nov 6, 2007 4:09 PM EST up reply actions

onto the chargers game

okay, we agree bringing up the noise thing was kind of pathetic.... and we will probably have to go onto foxboro in january

now can be discuss the chargers game?

i thought earlier this season that san diego wouldn't be the team they were last year... but i didn't think minnesota would kick there butts they way they did.

and are we getting any of our starters back ? at least Ugoh and Freddy... we need to protect peyton and stop the run .

by bluegirl on Nov 6, 2007 11:44 AM EST reply actions