Manning's play this year
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So, I was in my apartment last night last night drinking (alone) and pondering the universe (and how hard Bob Sanders could hit it). It then occurred to me that I'm just sick of talking about the damn Patriots. I search through the web, looking for Colts stories and all I see are Belichick v. Mangini, Spygate II, and a potential 16-0 regular season. It's nauseating. So, to put my mind right, I went to NFL.com and looked at some stats for Peyton. I expected to see a blot or stain when this season is compared to previous. Instead, I think this season rivals last season as one of Peyton's best.
Many claim the 2004 season was his greatest, and numbers-wise it was. But for me, last season was the best Peyton ever played. He dominated New England in both match-ups, came from behind twice against the Jets, and put up great performances against the Giants, Bengals, and Washington. He carried the Colts last year, with little to no help from his defense until the playoffs. He also had to up his game because Edge was gone. He was helping a rookie RB develop (Addai) and getting familiar with a new starting RB (Dom Rhodes). It was a truly great season for Peyton, and one that gets a bit overlooked. It's a season known more for him finally winning the Super Bowl and not necessarily for him kicking ass and taking names.
This season, Peyton has truly cemented his legacy, despite what idiots like Jeremy Green say. A moron will say "See! Peyton is ordinary without Marvin Harrison."
Really? Since when did ordinary get defined as 27 TDs, 13 INTs, and a QB rating of 97.0? That's ordinary!
When you factor in that Manning has had to work with a rookie LT (who missed several games), a myriad injuries at receiver, and new running backs like Kenton Keith it's damn near a miracle he's thrown 27 TDs. Also, factor in all the drops, WR miscues, and other things. I think we've seen more dropped passes this season than any other. Kenton Keith alone is a lowlight reel example of Mr. Stone Hands.
But regardless of all this turnover and all the injuries, Manning has still played at a dominant level. And I can assure you, he will look to the playoffs as the place where he will assert his dominance when his offense comes back healthy and ready. With Gonzo's emergence and the eventual return of Marvin Harrison (yes, he is coming back folks), Peyton has many weapons at his disposal.
The NFL better watch out, because it's coming.
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game against SD
So the game in SD is what brings his stats way down, which doesn't really explain much since it was one game, plus the one int came as time expried....
by rchun044 on Dec 14, 2007 12:05 PM EST reply actions
First of all, Thanks
Completion %: Manning 64.2%. QB B has never finished a season with a completion % above 64%
Yards: Peyton is on pace for 4133 yards. QB B has only one 3800+ yard season before this year and threw for 4110 yards that year, less than Peyton's current pace.
TDs: Manning 27 in 13 games QB B has thrown for less TDs in 4 of his last 6 full seasons, the other two he threw for 28TDs
INTs: Manning 13 QB B has three 14 INT seasons,
his other 3 he threw 12
Yards per attempt Manning 7.9 QB B's best season is 7.8 and has 7.2Y/A for his career.
If this season for Peyton means he is an ordinary Quarterback then "QB B" was clearly a below average player over the last six years.
can you guess the identity of this
by shake n bake on Dec 14, 2007 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Argument
Thought u were talking about Brady.
BBS, you got to be kidding me?
This season is the first season Brady actually had good receivers. Its simply a fact you choose to ignore. A guess you're going to say David Givens was good too. LOL!
BTW, you could actually make an argument that Jeremy Green's comment about Manning was a compliment because Manning has put up such great numbers over the years, 27 TDs 13 INT and 97 a QB rating is ordinary for him. If you're saying he's just another qb, then it is criticism.
by Terry @ Stampede Blue on Dec 14, 2007 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yep...
I don't know if there is another qb who could be having the season he has if they had to deal with the same injuries and all the dropped passes. That is one thing people (well non colts fans) forget...the colts are one of the teams with the most dropped passes this year.
Brady has had a great year (albeit slightly overrated cuz of the 4th qtr stat padding and with Moss saving his ass on so many bad throws) and clearly shows what he can do with some good WRs but IMO Manning is clearly showing he is the better guy. He's played with less (anyone who thinks crapho, gonzo [at least right now], moorehead, etc are better than pats WRs in the past is nuts) yet his numbers right now are BETTER than what Brady has ever done.
Does anyone truly think Brady would be having the year Manning is having with guys like moorhead, utecht, fletcher, etc? Please.
But hey, what do I know...I actually look at the numbers and think logically and Manning's supposed "off/avg" year is better than all of Brady's previous years.
by Rob L on Dec 14, 2007 3:56 PM EST reply actions
Brady's Receivers
By the way, I wonder if anybody heard the conversation between Brady and Belicheck when Brady went out for that final drive in the AFC title game last year. It went like this:
Brady: What yard line do you want me to get the ball to so Adam can kick the game winning field goal?
Belicheck: Um, Tom, we need a touchdown and were not tied, were behind!!
Brady: Yikes, Coach, I've never had to score a touchdown to win a big game. I think were in trouble. This is the first time when I've had to try to score a TD or we lose the game.
Belicheck: Don't worry Tom. Were covered. When you fail, we'll just blame it on our crappy receivers and we'll try to find some next year that will make you look like you knew what you were doing all along.
ummmmm...
I think you missed the joke...
I think what he was saying is that Brady never HAD to throw a TD to win the game, all he had to do was get in range for Vinatieri to kick the winning FG.
Not saying it's right, but I just thought you might want to read it over again. Just a joke, anyway.
terry
by metalmilitia @ Stampede Blue on Dec 14, 2007 11:37 PM EST reply actions
Pats' WRs
The two philosophies are pretty much completely opposite. The Colts have to place much more stock in the draft than the Patriots do, because whiffing on a first round pick would be disastrous. Moreover, they rely on the later rounds for so many of their starters, even very late round picks can become critical. The Patriots use the draft to bring in future talent. They rely more on free agency and trades to bring in veteran players, and rely on clubhouse chemistry to keep it all together.
Moreover, you can't use the "Brady has never had Colts-caliber WRs" argument, because neither of them had anything to do with it. Marvin was there before Peyton was, and the Pats have always had a revolving door at WR. You build a team based on your philosophy, and on your available pool of talent. Franchise WRs are like franchise QBs and RBs: if they hit the market, there's usually a reason.
by MonkeyBusiness on Dec 14, 2007 11:49 PM EST reply actions
The Patriots fans
Who knows why, but they have removed some of the bitter edge in me by their objectivity lately, even at times when some of us have lacked it. Of course, I've long stopped reading bogus forums like PatsPulpit, so that probaly helps.
Bottom line, I understand how they feel now. Winning it all does not quench the thirst. You want it more than ever. That's why that playoff loss hurt them so much last year. There's no way anyone says," We've won enough lately, so that's okay. We're glad they get their turn now."
The proof lies with us. Most Colts fans I know, including me, wanted to win badly and were heartsick by the shortcomings. We hated the Patriots beating us, but respected the fact that they were a great team. Now that we've beaten them more lately, particularly the playoffs last year, we dislike them more than ever and hate the losses more than ever. Winning never satisfies, does it?
We will go down in history as the two greatest teams of this era, with the two greatest coaches and the two greatest QBs. What a great rivalry!

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