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AFC South Changes

Texans defense looked very good Sunday.
I'm following up on a comment made by bluegirl in the here. It's interesting to see how teams in the AFC South have undergone nearly complete makeovers and yet the results could very well turn out the same as they have the last few years. Take Jacksonville for example. They jettisoned Byron Cottage Cheese Legs, got a ton of healthy defensive players back, and have a second year Maurice Jones-Drew. Instead of coming out at home and making a statement, they surrender 282 rushing yards to the Titans and get embarrassed at home despite a very good performance by QB David Garrard. Amazing.

Tennessee didn't look much better folks. Yes, they raped the Jags with their rushing attack, but the game was made close by the utterly putrid play of QB Vince Young who still can't figure out how to throw the football. 11-18 for 78 yards, an INT, and a lost fumble; Good God that's bad. The guy also ran 11 times for 22 yards and a score. That's 2 yards a carry folks. That means Vince Young dropped back in the pocket 29 times and ran as much as he completed. Yet, Vince will get called a "winner" even though the team won in spite of him Sunday rather than because of him. Vince Young has shown little to zero improvement over last year in terms of throwing the football accurately. He takes off running after seeing his first read covered, essentially giving up on the play before it's even started. Cue the apologists.

Then, there's Houston. I think their defense looked great Sunday. But, they were playing the Chiefs, and if you watched HBO's Hard Knocks this pre-season you knew the Chefs would be cooking up a bad brew this year. Herm Edwards is a joke of a coach. That team has no balance. No discipline. No accountability. No chance. The Texans defense looked very sharp though. However, their offense still looked pretty much the same. Schaub looks more comfortable than Carr ever did, but that Texans o-line is still dreadful. Schaub was sacked twice and pressured numerous times. He's certainly more mobile than Carr and he looks more comfortable on the bootlegs, but if you have to bootleg your QB out in order to protect him because your o-line stinks, you are in for a long season. Schaub did look good throwing that deep pass to Andre Johnson.

It's early, but things just don't look all that different from this end folks. The Colts should, and I stress should, annihilate this division. Whether they will or not is a different story. They gave away three division games last year when they were clearly better than the teams they lost to. This coming Sunday is when payback comes to Tennessee. The three away division games are circled on my calendar. The Colts lost all three away games in the AFC South last year. That cannot happen this year.

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no lost fumble for VY
With vince's passing stats this week, i don't see any reason for you to make stuff up to back up your point....

by zackmann on Sep 10, 2007 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fumble

That's from NFL.com. Do I have to explain it further? Unless NFL.com is wrong (possible, but doubtful), Vince Young fumbled and lost that fumble.

Never say I make stuff up unless you are 100% positive. Because if you aren't, you need up looking like a schmuck... kinda like you look now.

Please make an account and post a diary, add some comments, and make some noise. Accounts are free, and only require an email address.

by BigBlueShoe on Sep 10, 2007 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Zackman
I just don't like it when people say I make things up. Really upsets me.
Please make an account and post a diary, add some comments, and make some noise. Accounts are free, and only require an email address.

by BigBlueShoe on Sep 10, 2007 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no problem
hey, if nfl.com reported it that way, what can you say....

watching the game i was 99% sure he didn't lose a fumble...and i double checked my yahoo fantasy league to see if he was credited in their stat database for a lost fumble and he wasn't....

by zackmann on Sep 11, 2007 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed nfl.com is wrong
as many have said before... ill just post the link for the actual info...
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=270909030

under fumbles Young has 1 fumble and 0 lost fumbles.  

by BurtonSnol3order on Sep 12, 2007 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are both wrong
He had a fumble, but it was not a lost fumble.  No need to bicker about how bad he was.  At least we can all agree that LT is a better QB than Grossman.

by BurtonSnol3order on Sep 10, 2007 6:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LT
He's a better QB than Vince Young too.
Please make an account and post a diary, add some comments, and make some noise. Accounts are free, and only require an email address.

by BigBlueShoe on Sep 10, 2007 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vince Young
Why should he be passing the ball deep when his team is destroying the Jags on the ground.  Sure, his passing numbers aren't great, but they didn't need them to be.  And if you think Vince Young is not a big part of opening up holes for Chris Brown to run through, watch the game recap below at the 1:43 mark.  Vince hands it off and rolls out and both the mlb and the safety go after him as Chris Brown has a huge hole to run through.  It doesn't matter how many yards he gets when he runs if the defense still has to defend against him running.

by Texas Wahoo on Sep 11, 2007 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't feed the bears
The author of this site is as bad as Merril Hoge, and you shouldn't bother reacting to his commentary.

He hasn't the slightest clue what Norm Chow's doing with Vince Young, nor what Vince Young does to opposing defenses.

Most importantly, he never will, so let it go. He's a Colts homer, and that's fine. This is his house and he can be whatever he wants to be here.

I'm just telling you now - save your breath. This blog is a broken record on Vince Young and always will be.

Don't feed the bears.

by Burnt Orange Nation on Sep 11, 2007 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll just add
That if you'd like some analysis on the Titans by someone who is:

a) not a Colts homer,
b) watched the game, and
c) knows something about how football is played

then read this instead. It's much better than the tired "Look how bad VY sucks!" jargon that you get here.

by Burnt Orange Nation on Sep 11, 2007 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Link
It would have if the link actually went somewhere that:

a) was a website,
b) had words on it, and
c) backed up your point.

Please make an account and post a diary, add some comments, and make some noise. Accounts are free, and only require an email address.

by BigBlueShoe on Sep 11, 2007 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you try...
clicking on it? here let me help you:

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/doperbo/titans-week-1

copying and pasting the blue "read this instead" into your browser window won't work. sorry.

by longtitan on Sep 12, 2007 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fumbles...
neither of those were lost fumbles, i don't believe. unless it now counts as a lost fumble if you don't personally recover your fumble. the only titans turnover was vince's (admittedly bad) pick.

your attempts to defame vince are becoming increasingly comical. 11 runs and 18 throws does not mean he dropped back in the pocket 29 times. have you ever heard of a designed run?

it wasn't a great start but it's not like the titans needed much from him. and if you don't think the jags' scheme to shut him down had anything to do with the 289 rushing yards we ran up on one of the league's best d-lines, you're insane. he'll be better. the one thing i am worried about is that his bad game was the result of our receivers. hard to say from a single bar viewing, but i didn't see very many open guys. they could easily turn out to be the worst in the league.

looking forward to sunday... i dont know what to think of that saints v colts game. hard to say if you're that good or they're that terrible. pretty sure reggie bush is going to be a huge joke by the end of this season. we're going to give you a good game either way.

by longtitan on Sep 10, 2007 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's.....
some pretty big talk from a team that is shown losing 28-3 in a DirectTV commercial to the Colts. The Titans don't even get respect in commercials let alone in the NFL.....

by farris6659 on Sep 10, 2007 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Love...
I love the Vince Young apologist.

by MasterRWayne on Sep 11, 2007 9:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

More love
And I love you, hater.

by longtitan on Sep 11, 2007 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did vince young apologists...
also fail the wonderlic test? i mean, give the guy a full season to show what he can do, but based on his passing and decision making, i'd say he is hardly going to reinvent the position.  i'm just glad the titans didn't draft leinart.

by tenyardfight on Sep 11, 2007 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...
It would be more difficult to make the playoffs every year if someone else in the division were to obtain a quarterback.

by will on Sep 11, 2007 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

defensive minded
despite kubiak's presence in houston it seems that while the colts concentrate on offense the other teams in our division have tried to go the defensive route...  unfortunately all defense will win you games, teams like that are much more up and down.. good one year, suck the next.. good offenses seem to give you a much better chance to consistently be a playoff team..

by bluegirl on Sep 11, 2007 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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