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Is Bellichick still cheating?

By that I mean he somehow nullifies other teams' ability in the fourth quarter to pressure Brady, not give up the home run to Moss, and hold on to the lead.

All of their improbable comebacks this year are nauseatingly familiar, and it's like every opponent plays in a vacuum and never learns from other teams' prior mistakes or devises an effective fourth quarter strategy to preserve the lead until the game's over. (e.g., how about hitting Moss at the line of scrimmage, double-covering him, and forcing Brady to beat you with Welker, who, while great, is not the home run threat that Moss is.)

Christ, is Bellichick drugging other teams' Gatorade?  Is Lamont Cranston in his coaching staff?  WTF?

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.

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Though it pains me to say this ...
Brady is just that clutch, he's better late in the game than early on. I'm too lazy to post a bunch of statistics, but I'd guess his second half/last quarter quarterback rating is higher than his first half/first quarter QB ratings. He's simply a great 4th quarter QB.

Manning is still better though.

by PaytonMenning on Jan 3, 2008 2:48 AM EST reply actions  

Unless...
Marlin Jackson is involved.
my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com/

by shake n bake on Jan 3, 2008 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

Troll
Shut your face

by Burt Doyle on Jan 3, 2008 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

Umm...
First, nobody got 14 pts posted on their ass here because I am sure nobody here plays on the Colts. Get a clue idiot.

Second, it is funny you are going on about that when Brady was LUCKY Bethea dropped INT #3 in that game that no doubt would have sealed the game and then was able to hit Moss on blown coverage (yes, the Colts D screwed up not Brady being magical) on the next play. The guy made one great throw and it was more Randy than him anyway. Am I trying to imply Brady isn't great? NO...he's the 2nd best QB in the NFL. But to act like it was all him is ridiculous.

Oh and don't make a lame comment that Bob and Dwight were there:

A) they both actually missed some plays in that 4th qtr

B) Who cares? The Colts were without 7 starters by halftime. If you don't think injuries mattered then hey, all the power to you. The fact that Indy should have won with 1/3rd of their starting squad out speaks more volumes than the supposed greatest team handed down by God barely winning vs them.

Also amuses me you squirt on Brady having one good qtr vs Indy and ignore the other 3 qtrs where he was doing nothing and ignore the afc final and reg season game from a year ago. Hey, all the power to you for being the kool-aid drinker.

I also disagree with the person who said it is just Brady being clutch in the 4th of why they came back in each game...no it is actually the OL stepping up their game to give him all day (ANY QB CAN HIT OPEN GUYS WITH A YEAR TO THROW) and the other team fugging up. In every comeback win the other team's O or D SCREWED UP to kill their chance. Eli throwing into double coverage, Feeley throwing a game ending INT right to a Pats player with nobody around, the ravens TO on 4th down fiasco, and the aforementioned dropped INT and blown coverage of moss in the indy game. These aren't examples of "Brady magic"...they are examples of the other team screwing up. I am so sick of this Brady 4th qtr/clutch crap.

It is illogical for people to act like he/any qb just turns up his game in the 4th when logic clearly says a qb/player should be playing at their top level ALL GAME and not being mediocre for 3 qtrs then suddenly being good in the final qtr. This is why the 4th qtr comeback stat annoys me because I'd rather be playing well and leading big going into the 4th than struggling and most of the time the 4th qtr comeback is when the qb was struggling for 3 qtrs.

As for Belichick winning COY...lame but it's what one expects from the Pats heavy media. Dungy clearly should have won not because he is the Colts coach but because the team got killed by injuries yet was (at worst) the 2nd best team in the NFL. No way the Pats could deal with similar injuries and have done as well. Look at 05-they got hit by a lot of injuries and they were avg at best.

If Indy wee to go 16-0 next season and ANY OTHER team with 4-7 starters out basically every week went 13-2 in REAL games and barely lost those two then I'd say that coach would be the easy choice for COY.  

Poor Dungy....got screwed but what else is new.

by Rob L on Jan 3, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

Last time it should have been Bethea
but he dropped the 4th quarter pick (which would have been Brady's 3rd of the game). Brady is the second best QB in the league and is far better than whoever you put at number three, but he doesn't turn into a mistake free demi-god in the clutch like some like to suggest.

Also the Manning fumble was pressure against Charlie Johnson at LT and recovered by the now IRed Colvin. A guy came from the blindside and knocked the ball out of Peyton's hand as he was bringing it back to throw to an open reciever. Great play by Green, way more Charlie Johnson's fault (who won't start in the playoffs now that both starting tackles are healthy).

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by shake n bake on Jan 3, 2008 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

If you had an argument...
you'd make it instead of just trolling
my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com/

by shake n bake on Jan 3, 2008 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

hmm....
Does this mean when the Colts win the AFC Championship game (or the Pats lose to JAX in the Div. round, we should all gang-troll Pats Pulpit?  Short answer No, because Colts fans have class).  To PN, why don't you call up Bill, I'm sure you guys could watch some "Greatest Defensive Signals We Stole Last Year" video action in his in-home movie theater before he has to return it to pay his FINE for cheating.

by Bullard47 on Jan 3, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

teasing?
You are being an idiot, and a blatent troll who has no idea what football is about.

That just summerized you as a person.

Ciao.

by pukcab on Jan 3, 2008 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

Patriot Nation
Would you shut the hell up.  You are just trying to rile people up and in the process reveal to them how idiotic you are: and in the process of doing that you give Pats fans a sh*tty name. A little trash talk is fine but acting like a little pain in the ass is another story. You have nothing of football relevance to post. Please post something to discuss. I have been reading this site for a couple of months now - even made a few posts - and have had a couple of good discussions with all ( except one ). Check your stupid comments at the door and leave some intelligent thoughts -- I drink Pats kool aid but am smart enough to know how good the colts -- as in team, players and organization -- are and what a great rivalry we have with each other.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." Sun Tzu

by OneMore on Jan 3, 2008 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Let's put this in a reverse perspective
Let's flip the script on the Colts and Pats that fateful day.

The game opens, and Tom Brady is down Matt Light and Randy Moss, and Wes Welker goes out on the first series. Also, your defense is out Vrabel and Colvin.

So, here's the question: in identical circumstances as the Colts were in, are the Patriots even in this game? Who's stopping Dwight Freeney (still active at this point) from introducing Tom Brady to the RCA Dome FieldTurf repeatedly? Who's catching those long sideline bombs? A double-covered Donte Stallworth? What about those 3-5 yard hitches and slants? Jabbar Gaffney, who's getting rocked by the Colts secondary on every hit?

If it weren't for a dropped interception and a single blown coverage, the Pats would be the second best team in the league, no question.

Before you crown the Pats, let's not forget about Reche "Crazy Eyes" Caldwell.

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/reche_caldwell_insane_1_1.jpg

My point? Reche Caldwell has crazy eyes. Which has nothing to do with the facts, which is exactly the same as your argument. Therefore, you, like the Pats, choke big in the fourth quarter without Vinatieri to bail you out.

"Hey, if you want me to come here, I want to come here. But if you don't, I'm going to beat your butt for 15 years playing in the AFC." -Peyton Manning-

by MonkeyBusiness on Jan 4, 2008 1:12 AM EST reply actions  

Watch it...
Don't invoke the name of Vinatieri, their guy has out-kicked (KO's, PAT's & FG's) our guy this year !

The Colts got beat in Nov. at RCA... no excuses for that. We sound like Pats fans with all our whining about injuries. All NFL teams have injuries, the best teams win while dealing with them, simple as that.

Hopefully the Colts will get another chance to beat  New England only this time, we gotta win up there.  

by horseofadifferentcolor on Jan 4, 2008 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

oh wow That's awful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHe130jGK5g

First time I saw the Wlifork eye poke. How can he say he was doing anything else? They are just standing there jawing back and forth then Wilfork just reaches up and sticks a finger into an opening in Jacob's facemask.

He deserved more than the $15,000 fine for that. Suspend him. He's obviously not deterred by fines. He was fined for taking out Losman's knee and for a hit after the whistle on a blocking Jason Whitten both this season.

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com/

by shake n bake on Jan 5, 2008 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

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