Another quick recap
It would be typical that the day after the Colts suffer a 20 point defeat I have all kinds of crazy crap hit the fan, exasperating the annoyance of the loss to epic proportions. Full recap will be later today, but before I do that recap, I'd like to re-iterate something that was evident from Day One of the 2008 season:
There are no dominant teams this year.
Every team has been inconsistent. Some have been lucky and won anyway, but everyone is struggling through inconsistency. Want to know how nuts 2008 is? The Bears have the 3rd best scoring offense in football. The friggin Bears. Oh, and with that great offense, defense, and special teams... they are 4-3. Green Bay, despite losing three in a row, is now tops in their division. The Cowboys got blown out by the Rams. The Chargers got beaten down by the Bills.
So, before you freak out and start demanding your pound of flesh from Tony Dungy and Bill Polian, take a step back and look at the big picture. The entire league is upside down. Everyone looks bad. Everyone is playing inconsistent. Power rankings and the like right now are totally and completely meaningless. Heck, we don't even have a real front runner for MVP.
This is one of the craziest seasons I can remember, and the only thing that I can say with any certainty is that the teams people think are good now will not be good later. And a team struggling now will likely be a team that represents their conference in a Super Bowl. It is just how things are shaking out in 2008.
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im not ready to throw in the towel for this season either
Hell im not even ready to throw in the towel for this division. I think we can still win this division so long as we winning now, starting with Tennessee. Listen we all know its there for this team. They were putting up points against the #1 defense for heavens sake, we know we can still terrorize defenses. We also know people like Bob Sanders and Hagler will be back in the mix to help sure up the defense. This isnt over, not yet
by metal_militia on
Oct 20, 2008 11:30 AM EDT
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no dominate teams?
you got a date with one next monday
by longtitan on
Oct 20, 2008 11:40 AM EDT
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Dominance
against teams like the Bungels and the Chiefs isn’t dominance in the league.
I’m not saying you guys aren’t good, because you are. Your defense is exceptional.
I still believe we will beat you on MNF. BTW, do you mute the sound on MNF due to Tony Korn-nut? Just curious. I would like to start a petition to have him removed…
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on
Oct 20, 2008 11:51 AM EDT
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You will have to exucse the Titans fan
For years, his team was the toilet paper the Colts used to wipe their butts with. Now, they get a little sniff of success and they think they are the 1985 Bears re-invented. When they lose to the Colts, again, they will retreat back into the toilet bowl from whence they came.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 11:56 AM EDT
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MCM
I love this site because it is never too “over the top homerish”. We all support the Colts through thick and thin, but BBS and Shake bring more of an analytical approach to their postings rather than saying “Your team sucks. We’ll kill you. Your QB smokes pole.” Their posts are what keep me coming back here day in and day out.
I ventured over to Music City Miracles and the first line of text I see is “once we inviscerate Indy next week”. They also are apparently making all their fans wear powder blue t-shirts, Hank Williams is doing the yuk-yuk or something like that, and they are wheeling Steve McNair and his life support system onto the field as honorary captain. Not confirmed yet, but I believe Frank Wycheck is baking lemon squares for the coaching staff.
I think you can officially say that it’s on.
by session55 on
Oct 20, 2008 12:10 PM EDT
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I'm just as big of Homer as anyone
I just like to have actual arguments for my team.
I'm still here in the flesh
Twenty-one year old legend
I'ma live way after my death
-Lil' Wayne "Get Down"
by shake n bake on
Oct 20, 2008 12:20 PM EDT
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Well
I haven’t really noticed it, so quit f**king with my opinion of you.
by session55 on
Oct 20, 2008 12:25 PM EDT
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LOL
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 12:35 PM EDT
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Ha
This baffled me, “We all support the Colts through thick and thin” Go back to the open game against the Packers thread and tell me you all SUPPORTED them to thick and thin. Every other post was about how “I’m done watching this” and " F this F that" —-Great fans!
by RhiNo6705 on
Oct 20, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
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COMMON
you dont get emotionally charged when you watch your titans?
knee jerk comments don’t detract from your fandom.
in fact they enhance it.
when a game is complete I think most fans can look at a game as a whole and put it in perspective, but when peyton throws his 2nd pick 6 obviously we’re gonna be PISSED
by torontocoltsfan on
Oct 20, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
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Way to stay classy.
Stick with it Big Guy.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Go Titans!
by DannoE on
Oct 20, 2008 1:28 PM EDT
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You are welcome, DannoE
Nothing wrong with friendly trash talk. Trolling is a different story. I have no issue with titans fans talking a little trash. I find it humorous and amusing. Coming here to troll (i.e., act like a jerk) is a different matter.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 1:41 PM EDT
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Sorry if this is trolling...
We deserve to talk a little shit, right?
by longtitan on
Oct 20, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
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Actually, if we lose to the Colts...
We’ll still be leading the division by two games.
by longtitan on
Oct 20, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
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If You Lose To The Colts...
Yes, you will be leading the division by 2 games, but there will still be 9 games left, including another game against us in Indy. A lot can happen between now and then…
by TouchdownMonkey on
Oct 20, 2008 1:36 PM EDT
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and schedulewise
and after Tennesses and NE our schedule does light up for a stretch…detroit, cincy, cleveland.. They aren’t exactly power house teams..
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by bluegirl on
Oct 20, 2008 1:51 PM EDT
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And if they passed out trophies in Week 8...
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 1:38 PM EDT
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You guys would have a lot more trophies.
by longtitan on
Oct 20, 2008 1:48 PM EDT
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BURN!
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles
by Jimmy on
Oct 20, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
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Last I checked 1 is still greater than 0.
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
by KingRichard on
Oct 20, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
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1>0
That’s true.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on
Oct 20, 2008 2:27 PM EDT
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Valid point
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
by Jimmy on
Oct 20, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
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But unlike you...
We actually have a real one

What was that about burn?
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 3:12 PM EDT
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Stop stealing my material or else I’m going to start calling you Dane Cook.
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
by KingRichard on
Oct 20, 2008 3:52 PM EDT
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"toilet paper the colts used to wipe their butts with."?!?
When they lose to the Colts, again, they will retreat back into the toilet bowl from whence they came.
Just remember, for the last three years, our team has started 7-0, and with every team our guys played we fans always treated the opposing fans with courtesy and respect.
You declare how courteous you are yet you make this ass-wipe comment. You’re a big talker, aren’t ya?
by BeansCarter on
Oct 20, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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He said that because of the rampant swarm of vagina-bees that come flying out anytime idiots like you and these titans homos decide to start running their mouths.
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
by KingRichard on
Oct 21, 2008 10:53 AM EDT
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I'm not sure what you are saying there
but I do know it’s funny and probably offensive.
I'm still here in the flesh
Twenty-one year old legend
I'ma live way after my death
-Lil' Wayne "Get Down"
by shake n bake on
Oct 21, 2008 11:17 AM EDT
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What I’m trying to say (to him and the titans homers): Fuck off.
ya feel me? =P
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
by KingRichard on
Oct 21, 2008 11:20 AM EDT
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I'm not sure either what this small-brained worthless barrel of monkey shit is saying...
but I somehow have the feeling that this is the correct response.
Good luck Monday, biatches.
by BeansCarter on
Oct 21, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
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Again.
with the class. Its really amusing reading your replies.
You’re like all giddy with this being the first time you’ve tasted a little victory. That unbeaten record and all.
Suggestion: maybe you should wait until you’re like 8-0 or something before yapping it up. Oh, that’s right, you don’t have that experience.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on
Oct 21, 2008 6:20 PM EDT
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First time?!?
Nah… last year I was a Patriots fan!
(that’s a joke btw)
by BeansCarter on
Oct 21, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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Figures.
I suppose the trash talking has begun. lol!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on
Oct 21, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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Funny picture, though.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on
Oct 21, 2008 6:20 PM EDT
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You can only talk to KR like that because he went down to that level
be careful who you talk to like that. If it’s not someone who has responded to you in kind I won’t allow it for a second.
I'm still here in the flesh
Twenty-one year old legend
I'ma live way after my death
-Lil' Wayne "Get Down"
by shake n bake on
Oct 21, 2008 6:48 PM EDT
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I'm a big talker
And my team has the big ring and big trophy that says I can be.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 22, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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Um What?
Let’s see, the combined record of the teams the Titans have beaten is 12-26 with and avg. record of 2-4. I wouldn’t call that dominant by any means. The only quality win the Titans have is against Jax.
I’m not kidding myself, the Colts are by no means playing as well as the Titans because they’ve not faced many quality teams either and lost to Jax when Ten didn’t. To say the Titans are dominant though??….erroneous
by bicepbob on
Oct 20, 2008 11:58 AM EDT
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Thx BBS
For being a voice of reason at a time when all the rats want to jump ship. We’ll be fine.
longtitan – I’m posting that over my desk for the entire week. .20 Collins, dominate. Funny.
by session55 on
Oct 20, 2008 11:44 AM EDT
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No dominant teams?
Titans are 6-0
Steelers are 5-1
Bills are 5-1
Broncos are 4-2
Giants, 5-1
Redskins 5-2
You get my point.
This season isn’t much different than most others at this point. There are just some different names at the top of the crop.
I’m not taking solace in the fact that the league is supposedly “upside down”, I’m taking solace in the fact that the Colts are 3-3 and having a bad start. Think about it…there are a lot of teams that would love to have a bad start at 3-3. I’m taking solace in the fact that the Colts only have to win two more than they lose this season and end up at 10-6.. giving them a decent shot to make the playoffs. I’m taking solace in the fact that two of our most hated rivals are struggling as well. The Chargers are below .500, the Pats look like they could crumble at any moment (oh yeah, and Brady is done for the year). The Colts can still do it, but I’m not about to discredit any of the other teams in the league for what they’ve done so far.
by yellowsnow on
Oct 20, 2008 11:59 AM EDT
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Follow-up
The Titans opponents have a record of 12-26.
The Steelers cannot protect Ben Reothlisberger, and play in the horrid AFC North.
The Bills were blown out by the Cardinals recently. The Cardinals.
The Broncos defense is one of the worst in football. And they can’t run the ball. And they play in a division with the Chiefs and Raiders (who suck).
The Giants lost big time to the Browns two weeks ago.
The Redskins gave the hapless Rams their first win two weeks ago and also almost lost to the Browns.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 12:02 PM EDT
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Broncos can't run the ball?
120 yards per game.
We admire in the sea’s rages the total lack of reason and justice, the blindness to all but the laws of it’s own nature;
And quite naturally, since similar feelings and desires lurk deep inside our own minds. A wrecking sea is part of what we all dream ourselves to be every night.
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by bradley on
Oct 20, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
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Have you watched them play?
They may have some padded stats against some teams, but against Oakland, San Diego, KC, and TB they had significant problems running the ball and controlling the game.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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Sure
Broncos fan. And I’m not saying the Broncos of 08 are like the Broncos of 98. But to say the Broncos can’t run is unreasonable. 131 on 23 carries last week against the Jags isn’t shabby.
We admire in the sea’s rages the total lack of reason and justice, the blindness to all but the laws of it’s own nature;
And quite naturally, since similar feelings and desires lurk deep inside our own minds. A wrecking sea is part of what we all dream ourselves to be every night.
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by bradley on
Oct 20, 2008 1:02 PM EDT
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The Jags
Their run defense stinks this year. Don’t use one game against one bad defense as a barometer.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
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Well, the Jags game...
…was last week, which is why I mentioned it. Again, I’m just saying that it’s unreasonable to say Denver can’t run the ball. I believe the Broncos are 4th or 5th in the AFC in rushing.
We admire in the sea’s rages the total lack of reason and justice, the blindness to all but the laws of it’s own nature;
And quite naturally, since similar feelings and desires lurk deep inside our own minds. A wrecking sea is part of what we all dream ourselves to be every night.
John Fowles
by bradley on
Oct 20, 2008 1:47 PM EDT
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Losing a game isn't inconsistent
The Titans have done all they can. They won all their games.
The Steelers are 5-1 any way you put it. That’s what..a 13-3 season?
The Cardinals are actually a pretty good team. That passing attack has been great and the defense is underrated.
The Broncos have benefitted from a bad division. But there are almost always 2 bad divisions in the NFL every year, this year it’s that one and the Seahawks division in the NFC (can’t remember the name)
The Giants also beat 5 other teams and look pretty confident.
The Redskins have been inconsistent, but they look promising too. Good running game and efficient Campbell.
Losing a game isn’t really inconsistency…The Colts were viewed as a consistent team the past 5 years, but heck, they lost 3-4 games every year.
All I’m saying is is that we can’t completely throw out the idea that maybe some of the deemed “inferior teams” have turned a corner. And I can understand your point here, that we can’t put too much stock in the aforementioned teams, but I don’t think we should completely discredit them either.
by yellowsnow on
Oct 20, 2008 12:52 PM EDT
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Ok
The Titans have done all they can. They won all their games.
Of course the Titans have done all they can. They won all their games… against bad teams. Will they continue to win when they play the good ones? Can’t say.
The Steelers are 5-1 any way you put it. That’s what..a 13-3 season?
And a quick exit from the playoffs, again, because they still cannot protect Ben Roethlisberger.
The Cardinals are actually a pretty good team. That passing attack has been great and the defense is underrated.
No, they aren’t. They can’t run the ball and they play in the NFC West, which makes their medicore D look better than it is.
The Broncos have benefited from a bad division. But there are almost always 2 bad divisions in the NFL every year, this year it’s that one and the Seahawks division in the NFC (can’t remember the name)
Agreed, and this helps illustrate my point: Perspective.
The Giants also beat 5 other teams and look pretty confident.
Yes, but they lost to Cleveland. No “dominant” team loses that badly to Cleveland.
The Redskins have been inconsistent, but they look promising too. Good running game and efficient Campbell.
The Rams, yellowsnow. The Rams. Could you imagine how this site would have exploded if the Colts had given the Rams their first win.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 1:37 PM EDT
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you colts homers
do realize that IF (should have said when, but that might hurt feelings around here apparently) the titans beat the colts, that will just be one more team with a losing record that we have beaten right? 3-3 when houston absolutely handed you a game and jacksonville darn near did the same does not make you one of the “good ones”.
how many points do you get for winning in years past?
by hal41605 on
Oct 20, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
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So
You wouldn’t be optimistic if you were a Steelers fan that they could figure out how to protect him over a 16-game season? You were pretty damn optimistic about the Colts (and their depth, by the way) and look how things have turned out.
I don’t buy your arguments. The Rams and Browns aren’t above .500. So what? Any given week teams like those can win. We lost to the Bears week 1, and I’m sure there were people using the same logic you are right now. The Bears? Beating the Colts? They must really suck, right??
Teams lose. That doesn’t always make them a bad team.
by yellowsnow on
Oct 21, 2008 8:00 AM EDT
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I’m kind of torn in the middle right now. I think there is great parity throughout the league this year. Granted every year the cliche phrase “any given sunday” is true, but this year is the epitome of that saying. Look at what the Colts did two weeks ago. Blew out the Ravens, and then got slaughtered by the Packers. The Giants looked just as dominant until they themselves were dominated, etc etc etc.
I’m not trying to discredit the good teams right now, but I’m also not going to say they are the best.
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
by KingRichard on
Oct 20, 2008 12:19 PM EDT
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Packers
When I finish my recap it is pretty safe to say the Packers did not “slaughter” them. The colts had this game, but penalties and bad play by Peyton Manning cost them. That first INT for a TD was a back breaker.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 12:35 PM EDT
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Don't forget to mention the packers secondary.
I watched the game (and I had picked the Colts to win, so was hoping Manning could pull it out – until I gave up with 8 minutes or so to go). But don’t blame Manning too much. The packers secondary covered the Colts like glue.
We admire in the sea’s rages the total lack of reason and justice, the blindness to all but the laws of it’s own nature;
And quite naturally, since similar feelings and desires lurk deep inside our own minds. A wrecking sea is part of what we all dream ourselves to be every night.
John Fowles
by bradley on
Oct 20, 2008 1:05 PM EDT
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i agree that the game was much closer
than the 34-14 score indicated as two pick-sixes will always make it look like a blowout. but i don’t think i’d agree that the Colts ever “had” this game. really the only point of the game when i thought the Colts had the upper-hand was after they effortlessly marched down the field to score on their first drive – especially because Dom was running hard and the line finally looked like they had it together. but Green Bay got the ball back and immediately re-took the lead, scored again on their next drive and were at least 10 points clear of the Colts for the rest of the game.
the penalties were killer, as was the first pick-six, and another game-changer was Vinatieri’s blocked field goal. if they get that, the Colts are only down two scores with 24 minutes of football left.
win at Tennessee next week, and they’re back in the Division race. lose, and the AFC South is out the window but the Wild Card certainly isn’t. Look at the non-Division leaders playoff contenders right now: Jets, Ravens, Patriots, Jaguars, Chargers, Colts. even with as bad as Indy has looked, i’d still think they’re good enough to beat those teams out for one of the two postseason spots.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on
Oct 20, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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Dominance vs Good
BBS was correct in saying there are no dominant teams. That’s not to say there aren’t good teams. There are several teams that are good this year and can make a push for the Super Bowl. The point is that there isn’t a clear-cut “shoo-in” as there has been in years past (Patriots, Colts, etc.). Also, one cannot take the overall record and determine whether a team is good or great. Good teams do, on occasion, lose to bad teams; records can be deceiving. There isn’t a single team that has been dominant in all phases of the game. There isn’t a single team that doesn’t have various issues. All any team can do is try to fix the problems and fight it out until the end.
by TouchdownMonkey on
Oct 20, 2008 1:25 PM EDT
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green bay's game plan
actually reminds me of the play of the titans in past years… They used high risk plays like going on 4th and 1 and onside kicks early. This is a bit of desperation. They KNEW they had to get up to a lead early to hope to beat the colts. Unfortunately especially with the early penalties we took, it worked. Realistically their offense only scored 20 points and one bad pass and a fluky tip gave them another 14…
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by bluegirl on
Oct 20, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
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It is what it is
Green Bay Head Coach Mike McCarthy doesn’t hesitate to go for it on fourth and one, as history has shown that he thinks his team should be able to grind out a yard when you need it. Otherwise, why are you playing football? I wouldn’t say its desperation.
Green Bay Packers Secondary also has a history of aggressive, contact orientated play. One talking-head (gammons) described GB’s defensive play as “ferocious”. If you can beat our secondary, then you’ll beat the Packers.
by PackaCracka on
Oct 20, 2008 2:31 PM EDT
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I agree.
It’s gutsy, not desperate. I wish we had gone for it on 4th and 1. You make a decision like that and it works out, its a huge momentum changer.
And a team in the NFL should be able to get 1 yard.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on
Oct 20, 2008 3:12 PM EDT
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Not necessarily
The defense gets paid too. And they are paid to stop that one yard.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Oct 20, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
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..and an onside kick early
it wasn’t just going for it on fourth and one… it was that AND the onside kick… How often do you see that? but if you looked at the numbers you’d probably find more teams try it against the colts to keep the ball away from peyton.. And onside kicks are risky and a bit desperate early in a game… Think they’d do that against a division rival?
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by bluegirl on
Oct 20, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
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Obviously, in the NFL, ANYTHING can happen
But if we lose next week to Tennessee, which doesn’t seem out of the realm, we’re down FOUR games in the division, and at that point the division title becomes almost out of reach.
Rarely is there a game that’s a must win, but if we want the division, next week IS a must-win.
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by MrNFL on
Oct 20, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
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Agree
This has been a freaky season so far and it is why that while I am unhappy with the Colts performance I still feel that if they can get in some kind of grove they could make the playoffs ok because it is a possibility 8-8 cold get the wildcard in the AFC this season.
This season of mediocrity is obviously a positive to the Colts situation but at the same time it kind of makes their play even more frustrating because they could be very comfortable in the AFC if they were playing like they should be. I do not buy that the Bills are as good as their record and I don’t buy that the Titans are as good as their record (but if the colts come to play Monday and get blown out then i will change my tune on Tenn) and the Pats are well, who knows what you get with them this season so that leaves the Steelers as the only IMO true AFC elite team up there in record.
Here’s hoping the team can turn things around Monday and can finish 10-6 at the minimum. One really positive thing to me is that IF this team does get going and finishes the reg season strong and makes the playoffs playing well I think they would have the best shot at making the SB in the AFC because they should be clearly better than the Brady-less and old aged Pats, the Chargers (I fully expect them to win the west because denver sucks) are IMO over rated and the Colts playing their game should win vs the Steelers playing theirs.
by loregnum on
Oct 21, 2008 8:53 AM EDT
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