Peyton's knee troubles revealed (Update: Not So Much)

by shake n bake on Oct 24, 2008 2:10 PM EDT

Peyton's knee has been a very common theme from training camp into the season. The reasons behind the initial surgery were unknown and a second surgery (which the Colts refused to admit happened until well after the fact) was needed to clear out an infection.

Now the Indy Star and ESPN are reporting that both the intital and follow up surgery was to clear out a staph infection of the bursa sacs in Peyton's knee.

Indy Star:

A staph infection attacked his bursa, forcing the first procedure that kept him out of the start of training camp.

And the same infection forced doctors to go in a second time later in camp, likely pushing back Manning's recovery timetable by a couple of weeks.

The surgery was only needed because of an infection. There were no issues in the knee before then that required surgery. He couldn't have had the surgery earlier so as to not miss camp. The Colts can't be blamed for Manning not being ready in time. They could be blamed for the secrecy the situation was handled with, but that's the way the league has become regarding injuries.

UPDATE The Colts have released a statement confirming that the reason for the first surgery was infection, but denying that the second surgery was to treat the infection and that the infection was MRSA (the strain of antibiotic resistant staph) that multiple Browns players and reportedly Manning had.

FACTS CONCERNING QB-PEYTON MANNING'S KNEE SURGERY (released in consultation with club physicians to provide accuracy with respect to medical facts)

"Peyton Manning developed swelling in his left pre-patella bursa in late February. The swollen bursa was treated conservatively beginning in February with drainage and anti-inflammatory medication. The first signs of infection occurred while he was in New Orleans in July. It should be noted that infection developed prior to any surgery. Upon manifestation of the signs of infection, he immediately had surgery to remove the bursa sac. Concurrently, he was treated aggressively with antibiotics, and the infection was eliminated. The second procedure (tacking of the skin to eliminate the bursal space) was designed to ensure the complete and swift resolution of the bursal problem. The procedure was successful. The second procedure was in now way, shape or form, related to the infection. The second procedure did not delay his rehabilitation or recovery materially. It also should be noted emphatically that, at no time, did he have MRSA. It is clear from consultation with our physicians, including infectious disease specialists, that staph is a societal medical problem. There is no empirical evidence that indicates to our physicians there is a problem related to resistant staph (MRSA) with respect to the Indianapolis Colts."

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When you consider

how dangerous that could have been, staph is a scary bacteria, he’s (and we’re) lucky that he wasn’t out longer and the outcome worse.

When I read Peyton’s quote that at the Chicago game, he was just 4 weeks off surgery, I figured it was the infection that came back for the second surgery. I know that when I saw him in Chicago, he looked sick. Lost alot of weight. Some of the antibiotics to get rid of this infection are pretty nasty. Who knows, he may even have been on IV antibiotics when he initially came back…like Brady is now.

My opinion is that since it was his decision not to reveal everything, its his right. I’m just happy he’s healthy. I mean, not for nothing, but some of the pundits are saying Brady’s career may be in jeopardy…that’s some serious stuff.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Oct 24, 2008 12:53 PM EDT reply actions

"Staph is scary"

No kidding, this is what is did to Sgt. Winslow

Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Oct 24, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions

ouch.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Oct 24, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Ouch

Not a pretty picture. I don’t care who it is, you have to cringe for that.

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by Colts Homer on Oct 24, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Thank goodness that it wasn't MRSA

That stuff is really really dangerous. People can and do die from it. The bad thing is that Staphylococcus aureus is getting more prevalent and it’s getting harder to treat. The most common places to get it are any place that people are in close contact with each other, like locker rooms.

by Sanders_fan89 on Oct 24, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions

I'm sick of the Colts medical staph

and I don’t believe them.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Oct 24, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions

You do not lose as much weight as Peyton did

unless the infection was serious….

It kind of sounds to me like they are adopting the Browns’ PR approach. Or maybe the Browns got it from the Colts.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Oct 24, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Peyton's comments

This is weird because here’s what Peyton said in the article :

“We’ve got to be careful summarizing the NFL as infectious because me and Brady had it,” Manning said.

So, Peyton is saying he had a Staph infection, but the Colts are saying he didn’t? Who’s lying or misinformed here?

by DoTheMathis98 on Oct 24, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions

The stuff I've seen about Brady says they don't know

or it hasn’t come out, what kind of infection it is.

Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Oct 24, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Good question.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Oct 24, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions

couple things

i never like to comment on many of the medical issues brought up here, because there is never enough information to make any kind of informed opinion on what has been going on and what the prognosis is. I am a doctor but I work in emergency medicine and intensive care, I’m not an orthopaedist so I also feel that this precludes me from commenting too much. What I would say is that there are plenty of more serious bacteria out there than plain ould methicillin sensitive staph. aureus. It’s an extremely common skin commensal, responsible for a large proportion of skin and soft tissue infections along with strep. pyogenes. MRSA, is obviously far more worrying but doesn’t seem to be an issue with Peyton. Also, Peyton’s problems don’t seem to be of an intracapsular nature as they were localised to the pre-patellar bursa, I would be far more concerned if I were a Patriots fan and my QB had potentially developed a septic arthritis post intracapsular ACL surgery. The weight loss mentioned by many is likely a combination of the increased catabolic state brought on by the infection and a loss of appetite secondary to the antibiotics. I would expect Peyton to put on that lean muscle mass fairly quickly again. Sorry, if this is really boring.

by scottishcoltsfan on Oct 24, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions