Recap Week Eight: Titans 31-Colts 21
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The only thing consistent about this team is its inconsistency. It seems for every area they get fixed another area (usually pretty reliable) gets broken. Though, strangely, I come out of this lose with a renewed sense of optimism about the team. Yes, they are 3-4 and that is never good, but the positive is that most of the AFC is 3-4, and the teams that are 4-3 or 5-2 are very beatable. As shake n bake said:
The Colts are one game back from the AFC Wildcard and they have a head to head tiebreaker over one team ahead of them (Ravens). All the Colts have to do is gain one game on the Ravens and Jets over their remaining 9.
Contrary to popular belief, and the silly narrative that is getting written, the Colts still have a viable chance to win their division. Nine weeks of football leave a lot of room to makeup ground. But, last night, the Colts were not able to take advantage of an anemic Titans offense, which was completely shut down by a Colts defense that was supposed to "not be very good."
Before I get to the observations, I gotta say that I really hate being right. For years, we've said Vince Young is garbage and the Titans would be much better with Kerry Collins at QB. Titans fans railed against this. One even called me a racist for suggesting Vince get benched for Collins (his comment was deleted). Now, with Collins as their starting QB, they are 7-0 and in the driver's seat. Last night, Collins' steady play was a big factor in them winning. If Vince Young had started last night's game, Indy would have destroyed them. Gotta say again, Man! I hate being right.
- Turnovers killed the Colts. Once again, like in the Bears game, WRs can't seem to do the most basic function they are paid millions of dollars to do: Catch the friggin' ball. Both Manning INTs, which both resulted in Titans TDs, were the result of receivers letting the ball bounce off their stone hands and into the mittens of Titans defenders. On the road against a good opponent, one cannot have two big turnovers. That was the difference.
- Colts defense dominated Tennessee's offense, and the Colts o-line pushed Tennessee's d-line around... for the most part. Indy ran for 4.3 yards a carry against a d-line that is #1 in football. Yet, on fourth and 1 at the 50, they decided to run power against a defense that was blitzing the run. Huh? Horrible call. Play fake those dudes and short pass for a first down. Other than that, Jeff Saturday contained Albert Haynesworth (who was out of breath most of the game) to 4 tackles, no sacks, no pressures. Can't ask for much more than that. As for the Colts defense, they held Tennessee to 284 total yards, 2.8 yards rushing, and 4.1 yards per offensive play. The reason Tennessee scored 31 was because the Colts offense (2 turnovers, 1 TO on downs at the 50) gave the Titans a short field.
- I love Dallas Clark. He caught two TDs and was killing the Titans LBers all night. But catch the ball, brother! That whiff resulted in an INT, and killed the game for Indy.
- Dominic Rhodes and Gary Brackett are two of my favorite players. They play with such energy, such enthusiasm.
- I'm questioning why Manning keeps zeroing in on Wayne and Harrison when Gonzo was getting open pretty consistently.
- The Colts o-line was extremely good last night, except for Mike Pollak. Pollak looked like a rookie. It was nice to see Tony Ugoh back at LT. Manning was not sacked last night, and when Ugoh plays the running game is usually much better. Charlie Johnson is better suited for guard. He was getting push and opening holes.
- Special teams continue to impress. Pierre Garcon started shaky but found himself. He made some good returns. Coverage units have been solid all year, sometimes spectacular. Hunter Smith has improved in his ability to hang punts, allowing his coverage to down the punts deep.
- The two phantom calls (illegal contact by Marlin and pass interference by Bullitt) were utter garbage. But, hey, the game was in Tennessee. Home cooking. Next time, hopefully, they don't get those calls.
- Clint, baby, when an INT falls into your hands... CATCH IT! I thought Gary Brackett was going to take his head off after he dropped that gift.
- We finally got our first look at NT Daniel Muir, and he played quite well. This is now the third game in a row the Colts have held their opponent to under 4 yards a rush. They are 1-2 in that stretch, and the reason for the two loses has not been the defense. The offense has 4 turnovers, and I believe all of them have resulted in TDs. The one area that bugs me about the defense: They have generated ZERO turnovers in those two games. They've caused multiple fumbles (one last night that was missed by the crappy refs) but not recovered them. They've had INTs fall into their hands but not caught them. Getting turnovers is very important, as we saw last night.
- The Colts no longer have a DT problem. Anyone makes that excuse and I will ignore it. Raheem Brock, Eric Foster, Daniel Muir, and Keyunta Dawson are good enough to get the job done. They pushed around a very good Tennessee o-line last night, and were able to get consistent penetration into Tennessee's backfield.
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So, without Bob Sanders, Joseph Addai, Ryan Lilja, and Kelvin Hayden, the Colts went toe-to-toe with, supposedly, the best team in the NFL and nearly beat them. For whatever reason, the Colts just haven't played consistent football. Certain areas have been corrected, and that is very encouraging. But, the main focus now is getting Bob back and eliminating these annoying and game-killing turnovers.
I'll say again, as with all pre-scripted nonsense about the NFL, the AFC South is not "locked up." Just because a bunch of dumb-asses say it doesn't make it true. The Titans could very well lose 3 or 4 in a row, and the Colts could win 3 or 4 in a row. And then, they are back in it. The main thing I took from last night was the Titans do not scare me. Their main offensive weapon (Chris Johnson) was smacked around hard most of the game. If he wasn't fumbling, he had alligator arms out of the backfield. LenDale White was held to 13 yards on 10 carries. The Colts also moved the ball wells against the #1 defense, and ran for 4.3 a carry. All this was done without Bob Sanders, Joseph Addai, Kelvin Hayden, and Ryan Lilja.
And all four of those guys are expected back soon. Bob especially. Though the team is 3-4, keep the faith Colts fans. As the FanShot
Go Colts!
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Not Reggie's Fault
I gotta disagree with you about that first interception not being on Peyton. Peyton threw that ball into tight coverage and if you watch the play closely you’ll see that the ball is tipped right before it gets to Wayne’s hand. I can’t hang this pick on anyone other than Manning.
Also I noticed a disturbing trend last night of Manning not scanning the field very much. It’s almost like he was worried he wouldn’t have enough time, even though the offensive line generally did a good job of pass protection. I’m not really sure what’s going on but there were way too many dump downs to Rhodes when he still had time to throw.
by ThirtyOne on Oct 28, 2008 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Correct
I don’t think Reggie even got his hands on that ball. Peyton is definitely forcing too many throws, especially the quick outs to Marvin which keep looking worse.
by DoTheMathis98 on Oct 28, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
price of missing training camp
I agree Peyton is forcing too many balls, and his throws just don’t look right. I suspect this is the result of all the time he was forced to take off. This may have been the longest stretch he has EVER had in the pros where he didn’t practice and stay fit. And it takes time to regain that. An athlete doesn’t go from coming off an injury to immediately being able to compete at their previous level. Why do we expect this of peyton? His timing is off and I suspect he still isn’t fully fit.
This team lives and dies on his arm… That is why he gets the big bucks. And he hasn’t been able to consistently put it together the way we expect. Right now his numbers are very average, and unfortunately the way this team is built — leaves us about a .500 team…
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by bluegirl on Oct 28, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Reggie's fault
Replays clearly showed that a Titan DB got his hand on the ball before Reggie. This pick was on Peyton, the second on Dallas.
And yes, Manning seems to “lock in” to receivers more than in the past and that has not been good.
by JTBLA on Oct 28, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy Feet
His happy feet are back from his Tennessee playing days. That means he is nervous about getting hit.
by jharrispcs on Oct 28, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
please.
he always has happy feet.
and nervous about getting hit? i doubt it. he stays in the pocket when he knows he’s going to be hit. collins is the one who is nervous about getting hit. just come close to him and he unloads the ball…my husband is from new jersey and told me about that little nugget. and it was completely true.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 28, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daddy taught him that
I live in Tennessee. I am from Indiana and have been a Colts fan since the move. I endured the Peyton Era at Tennessee. Before becoming QB for the Colts he was worshiped as a living god here. Literally. I have seen more highlight film on him not just as Colts QB but as Tennessee’s QB then should be allowed by law. Before becoming our QB, I would mock his pee pee dance to my die-hard Tennessee father-in-law. You can just imagine his joy when he saw me in a Manning 18 jersey. But anyway, I am extremely familiar with his happy feet, a.k.a. pee pee dance. He has said before in interviews that he has a internal clock of how much time he has until he is hit. It even inspired a commercial. When he gets nervous, he stops scanning the field, does not do look-offs, and essentially ditches the ball trying to force a play. With so much upheaval on the OL this year, I think he hears daddy’s voice about how bad it will be to get hurt. How do you fix this? He has to individually gain confidence in his protection and it is not something you can coach, he has to do it all by himself. Now I will stop being Freud.
by jharrispcs on Oct 29, 2008 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL History
No NFL team who has had a 3 game lead in their division after having played 7 games has even NOT WON THEIR DIVISION. As for you saying you went toe to toe with us. 25 un answered points is NOT going toe to toe. I will say that you guys are much better than your record but I think the days of you dominating your opponents are clearly OVER! This game was closer than the score suggested but was CLEARLY in our favor the ENTIRE 2nd half. Good teams make adjustments and win ball games. Give us our props wheather you like us or not. We are a very good team.
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by Vincanity on Oct 28, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who said the Titans were bad?
As far as I can read, the only person to say anyone is “bad” is LenDale White.
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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 28, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
With the way this season is going, NFL history will likely go out the window this year.
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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 28, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Show me where LenDale said "bad"
Here are some things ‘not very good’ can mean other than “bad”: good, mediocre, solid, average, sub-.500.
Once again, the feigned outrage over that statement was effing weak, and most of your readers agreed.
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on Oct 28, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s retarded. What is the opposite of good? Bad. What is the opposite of bad? Good. Saying something is not very good = bad. like duh?
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by KingRichard on Oct 28, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And once again this stupid board screws up what I was trying to do, whatever you get my point.
The King of anti-fail.
by KingRichard on Oct 28, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an EPIC FAIL, logically speaking
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on Oct 28, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullitt PI
it was ticky-tack and could have easily been avoided by Bullitt, but it was PI. He put his arms on the TEs shoulders before the ball got there and without turning around to play the ball.
If he had turned around he could have put his hands on the TE and if he hadn’t put is hands on the TE he wouldn’t have had to turn around, but he did both and drew a cheap PI.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bullitt PI
Was ABSOLUTELY face-guarding. You can’t blame the refs for that, he NEVER looked to play the ball.
We simply got outcoached, Jeff Fisher was the better coach on that night. Why on 3rd and 3 when we KNOW we’re going for it are we not trying a run when Rhodes had been doing so well? The other 4th down was just stupid, just take the field position and punt it.
As for the division, there is no chance, and it has nothing to do with Indy. Look at Tennessee’s schedule and find me 4 losses. Packers and Bears? Both look like wins. At Jacksonville, maybe a loss. Jets/Lions/Browns all wins. Houston, Pittsburgh and us late could give them trouble, but this team looks like 12-4 AT WORST. And leaves us having to go unbeaten the rest of the way, which with that schedule, and how we’ve played, is unachieveable.
Now obviously the wild card is still easy to get if we play well. But the division is out of reach barring Tennessee just falling apart. And with Jeff Fisher and that defense, it just isn’t going to happen.
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by MrNFL on Oct 28, 2008 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Faceguarding is legal in the NFL
the changed the rule in the last few years. If you do not touch the receiver you can’t be called for a foul.
link
and from an NFL ref
There is no such thing as face-guarding in the National Football League. It is legal to face-guard a receiver. In order to have pass interference you must have contact. Any act without contact is not considered a foul.
It was PI because Bullit touched the receiver while not playing the ball.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2008 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
from a colts fan
this post lacks the analysis that is usually present on this web page. good point about making the playoffs though. i doubt many readers care if you were right about kerry collins. it was probably focused to specific ones. think about the audience you want to have.
as far as the illegal contact or whatever on jackson, after watching the broadcast replay it looked like a bad call.
bullit PI’ed the guy. no doubt about it. wayne was teflon covered on the first peyton interception. throwing into to coverage like that is idiotic.
what’s the deal with harrision? everyone says he’s off a step. however, manning underthrew some balls and had poor timing as well. does anyone know where a good answer to this question can be found?
regardless, the first fourth down call was stupid. no need to do that. the defense had been playing well. tied ball game. no immediacy. no need to completely turn the momentum. i wonder how much say peyton has in those situations. i wouldn’t be surprised if it’s quite a bit. and he always wants to go for it.
i think dom should get more carries even with addai back. i don’t see any reason the colts shouldn’t deploy both backs. hopefully they get this season turned around and manning gets his mojo back.
by menms on Oct 28, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Clearly a decline is in the works
Regretfully our Colts are in decline. Great teams win convincingly while good teams find a way to win in tough games. We’ve seen both from the Colts during the Peyton years. Declining teams, on the other hand, tend to lose games that they could have won. The one consistant feature is inconsistancy… each game witnesses different areas under-performing. The coaches patch last week’s problems only to find new ones the next week. We are not going to the playoffs this year. But in Polian we trust as he can patch the team for next year while we still have Peyton. He’ll need cap room so figure that Marvin ($13M next year) will be gone. PFW has that right.
by coltfan59 on Oct 28, 2008 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Marvin is in obvious decline IMHO. He just doesn’t get the seperation he once did. It’s one thing for a big guy like TO or Keyshawn Johnson to lose a step and have to adapt to a more physical style. Marvin doesn’t have the luxury of changing his style.
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by aaronb on Oct 28, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it looks worse than it is
because Peyton has been underthrowing him deep and flat out missing him on a lot of short stuff.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Illegal contact
“as far as the illegal contact or whatever on jackson, after watching the broadcast replay it looked like a bad call.”
Not true. ESPN never showed a replay on the entire play so we never saw whether Jackson did or did not make contact after 5 yards. It was a killer call (everything went south after this play) but only the game tape will show whether it was called correctly or not.
by JTBLA on Oct 28, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When is Ryan Lilja supposed to be back? I can’t help but agree that Pollack seemed to be the weak link on the OL last night. It seemed like almost every hit Peyton took was from a guy coming up the middle against Pollack. Johnson looked really strong on the other side.
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by aaronb on Oct 28, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they have to activate or IR him
this week. They are probably going to activate him whether he’s ready to practice or not so they don’t have to IR him. He should be back in the next few weeks.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BBS
You can make all the excuses in the world, and you can say you “almost” beat the Titans as many times as you want, but in reality there was one thing learned from last night. The AFC South has seen a shift in power. The Titans are a better team than the Colts and played that way.
You try to ignore the fact that your team is going nowhere this year by bringing up the Vince Young situation. You are classless, end of story. Take a loss like a man and enough with the excuses.
You’re injured, big deal. Titans were playing without a pro-bowler as well.
The Titans have grabbed 3 out of the last 4 from the Colts (one was a garbage game I’ll admit that).
The bottom line is that the Colts are not the team they used to be. Peyton is on the back-half of his career, Marvin is old and can no longer run routes like he used to, and the defense is not what it was. Believe it or not but Peyton Manning was outplayed by Kerry Collins. Oh yeah, and Chris Johnson was “smacked around?” Over 4 yards per carry and a touchdown I’ll take that any day. Lendale only ran for 1.3 yards per carry but he did have 2 touchdowns.
You say that you almost beat the Titans? In reality the Titans exploded in the 4th quarter to put the game away, the junk touchdown on the QB sneak only made the game look reasonable.
The Titans have a better coach than the Colts, have better talent than the Colts, and have a much better defense than the Colts. There has been a changing of the guard in the AFC South.
The Titans are now the team to beat while the Colts now have declined into the ranks of mediocrity.
by nvemvp23 on Oct 28, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Peyton Manning is 32
Great QBs have played at their peak level far older than that.
The Titans did not dominate the game. By the win probability here for half of the game the Colts were more likely to win.
Chris Johnson was averaging 5.23 yards per carry. Holding him to 4.05 is pretty good for a undersized and “weak” run D. Lendale needed 3 tries to get 2 yards on his first TD. Not exactly impressive for a “Smash” goal line back against a line that barely weigh more than he does. On the goal line he went 2 for 4. He needed four tries to pick up 3 yards. That’s terrible. Any back should be able to get two TDs when he gets four carries inside the 2.
The Titans caught the breaks (4 near TOs the Colts D couldn’t get) and made the plays (a couple big 3rd down conversions and stops on two 4th down attempts) to win. They have played better than the Colts so far this year. But teams don’t always play the same as they have in the past. Let me tell you a story about the 2006 Titans. They were 0-4 going into their game against the undefeated Cols. They gave the Colts a great game losing 13-14. The Colts sat at 5-0, the Titans at 0-5. Over the next 11 games the Colts struggled with injuries and had their weaknesses exposed and went 7-4 wit back to back crushing defeats to the Jags and Texans. The Titans went 8-3 after that game and made the playoffs.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
forgot my link
won prob
http://www.advancednflstats.com/2008/10/in-game-win-probability-engine-05.html
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good post but correction:
Titans didn’t make the playoffs in 2006. They played the Pats in week 17 and if they won they would have got in, but they didn’t. It was Vince’s rookie year.
by nvemvp23 on Oct 28, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by fault
it was last year they got in at 8-8
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Not like me to blow the fact checking like that. They were on the edge both years, I just assumed it was with the same record.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wishful thinking
Look, you can have wishful thoughts about Peyton Manning being done at 32 (that suggestion right there pretty much labeled you a “hater,” making the rest of your post a bunch of jibber-jabber) and the Colts “declining.” Unlike the Titans of, say, 2003, the Colts are a young team that is not hindered by bad cap management and crappy drafting.
Put this into perspective (I know for you that’s hard to do): Your team will not re-sign Albert Hayensworth this off-season, you busted the #3 overall pick in the 2006 draft, and your starting QB is 36 years old. Knowing all that, you actually have the gall to come here and say the Colts and Peyton Manning are on the decline, and that there is a changing of the guard? Are you high or something, man?
Please, if you are going to come here and try and debunk something I’ve written, at least KNOW what you’re talking about before you try and show me up or something. Honestly.
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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 28, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We
OWNED you, I’m sorry. Classless Punk.
by RhiNo6705 on Oct 28, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Owned?
Is that what you call it when you win even though the other team led for more of the game?
Time of lead
Colts:25:48
Tied:13:08
Titans:21:04
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that's what you call it when your opponent is scoring garbage time TDs to try and save face
and still losing by double digits.
/couldn’t resist
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on Oct 29, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't even make sense there
the late Colts TD didn’t change the lead. I actually really like that stat and hadn’t seen it anywhere before. It’s not affected by garbage time.
The Colts led for a bit of the 1st quarter, the entire 2nd quarter, and almost half of the 3rd.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 29, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is professional sports
In a professional game, it is the offenses job to attempt to score and a defenses job to try and stop it. If the Titans had stopped the drive, would that have been garbage or the D just doing its job? So in the reverse, if the Titans tried to end a lost game on a positive scoring drive, you would have thought that garbage? Give me a break.
by jharrispcs on Oct 29, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
I think you misinterpreted my statement. I wasn’t knocking the Colts for scoring that last TD, I’d want my guys to do the same. I’m just saying that the fact that it didn’t come close to mattering shows that by the end the game wasn’t as close as shake made it sound.
Michael Roos doesn't eat pitas because NOTHING BREAKS THE POCKET ON HIS WATCH!!!
by August West on Oct 29, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
We OWNED you. You can have your STATS, but I’ll take our WIN.
by RhiNo6705 on Oct 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You won
but to call that anything other than a close hard fought game is ridiculous.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
144 yards per game
6.5 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct
you guys played a very good game.
by RhiNo6705 on Oct 28, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Until
the middle of the 3rd quarter, that is.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 29, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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