MVP of the quarter

by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2008 6:00 PM EDT

I got to thinking while I was bored at work and tried figuring out who could be labelled the unofficial MVP during the first quarter of the 08-09 season. To make it Colts related as well, I'd like to see your opinion on who is the MVP for the Colts during the first quarter as well.

League MVP:

I have two people in mind. Oddly enough, both of them reside within the same division; arguably the best division in the NFL at the moment. They are both QBs, playing on the two best teams in their respective division. Who are they?

Eli Manning and Jason Campbell.

I'll start with Manning first. Eli has played nearly perfect in the Giants first 4 games, and in doing so, he has lead the defending champs to a perfect 4-0 record in this young 2008 season. I swear to god that winning the Super Bowl was (obviously) the best thing to ever happen to Eli's career. He's progressed and improved so much from where he was last year at this time it's mind-boggling.

Pretty much everything I just said about Eli can be said about Jason. However, the one thing Jason has over Eli at the moment is this little gem: Out of 153 pass attempts, Jason Campbell has zero, I repeat, zero interceptions. This tells me he is playing smarter and gaining chemistry with his receivers and the rest of his team despite having to deal with multiple head coaching changes, and multiple offensive coordinator changes. Impressive indeed.

Just for the hell of it, I'm going to name my rookie of the year. I think it's fairly obvious that Matt Forte is the clear cut rookie of the year. He's practically the entire Bears offense and blows Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson out of the water (not that it would be too hard to show up Cedric Benson).

Now then, the MVP for the Colts. This is a really hard decision, but after a while of thinking about some of the good plays, and some of the bad plays this season, I started to get a migrane and decided that my default answer would just be the Special Teams. They're the most improved, and most consistent thing the Colts have going, so there.

Your turn.

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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 6, 2008 6:07 PM EDT 0 recs

Freeney?

He’s on pace for 12 sacks (and 8 forced fumbles) while not even taking his regular number of snaps and with the D getting run on.

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by shake n bake on Oct 6, 2008 6:07 PM EDT 0 recs

That’s just it, he’s apart of a defensive unit that has been sub-par concerning the run which is a big deal. Be a different story if he was the only one out of the lot worth a damn at the moment.

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by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'll add a couple more names

NFL MVP: I agree with Eli and Campbell, but I’d add Jay Cutler in there as well

NFL ROY: I think Chris Johnson should also be in the conversation with Forte. As great as the Titan Defense is, I don’t think they are 5-0 without Johnson.

Colts: Besides Peyton being the obvious choice, I think it could go to Freeney or even Melvin Bullitt. He has filled in admirably for Sanders, and he’s been a force on Special Teams as well.

by mgrex03 on Oct 6, 2008 6:10 PM EDT 0 recs

Chris Johnson does indeed deserve an honorable mention. I just have Forte ranked higher because he’s “the guy” in Chicago.

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by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Some stats on Forte/Johnson

Rushing:
Forte – 107 carries, 383 yards, 3.6 ypc, 2 TDs
Johnson – 85 carries, 381 yards, 4.5 ypc, 2 TDs

Receiving:
Forte – 22 catches, 172 yards, 2 TDs
Johnson – 12 catches, 69 yards, 1 TD

Forte is a little better at receiving, and Johnson looks a little better rushing.

by mgrex03 on Oct 6, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

Rushing/Recieving

Interesting, you would have guessed the opposite, since Forte is a big back and Johnson actually played WR for a while in college.

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by shake n bake on Oct 6, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

I think there is a couple things here

One is what KingRichard said, in that Forte is a featured back, and Johnson shares time with White.

Second, Tennessee has been up late in most games this year, meaning they aren’t passing as much as the Bears. Also, Forte had 66 receiving yds this week against the awful Lions, which always helps.

by mgrex03 on Oct 6, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

Good call.

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by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up 0 recs

It’d be a different story if the Titans actually had a passing game. I still think Forte, for the touches he gets is a lot better than Johnson.

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by KingRichard on Oct 6, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

Definitely Eli

What about Joe Flacco? For a rookie, this kid is showing great presence and decision making.

Agree with Special Teams for the Colts.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
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by peytonsthebest on Oct 6, 2008 6:53 PM EDT 0 recs

MVP: Eli Manning. He’s the most valuable player on the by far best team in the league. Manning has been amazing ever since Week 17 against the Pats.

ROY: Forte. Damn. I wish we would have gotten this guy…

Colts: Freeney. Special teams haven’t been the game-changer that Freeney has been. Freeney is back and better than ever.

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by Colts Homer on Oct 6, 2008 10:04 PM EDT 0 recs

ROY -- Jake long

Do you think that the improvement in miami may have something to do with the improved line play? It is hard to pick out one person on a line, this is a bit out there I realize, but both ronnie brown and ricki williams have been running well…

Special teams definitely deserve a nod this year as they are at least solid.

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by bluegirl on Oct 7, 2008 11:12 AM EDT 0 recs

Brown was great last year too

before he blew out is knee though. Sticky Ricky was also hurt pretty quickly.

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three
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by shake n bake on Oct 7, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up 0 recs

true

but pennington has looked better than any other QB they have had in ages, and that has to be at least in part to decent protection (which miami QB’s haven’t had in a long time…)

Another one is Matt Ryan in atlanta. I haven’t seen much of him play, but he can’t be screwing up too badly or they wouldn’t be winning.

I guess part of me thinks it is just too easy to give a rookie award to a running back… I’d rather look for other potential

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by bluegirl on Oct 7, 2008 3:01 PM EDT 0 recs

I hate Matt Ryan

but he hasn’t been a miserable failure like I hoped. He played great against bad Ds and bad against good Ds.

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three
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by shake n bake on Oct 7, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

So....

Green Bay doesn’t have a good defense? Or he just got lucky catching them with so many injuries?

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by Bullard47 on Oct 7, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

I don't know what's up with GB

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It"

by shake n bake on Oct 7, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

I think the loss of Jenkins

hurt the Pack this week.

by coltsfanawalt on Oct 7, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

and Al Harris

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Oct 8, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

I do, they are both overrated.

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by KingRichard on Oct 8, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

Green Bay’s defense is overrated as hell.

We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.

by KingRichard on Oct 7, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

I really thought this fanpost would receive more than 20 replies. Where the hell is everyone?

We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.

by KingRichard on Oct 8, 2008 12:07 PM EDT 0 recs

Sometimes a post is so good people don't feel the need to comment

(what I tell myself after one of my stories doesn’t get many comments)

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It"

by shake n bake on Oct 8, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

That’s because no one likes you.

Just kidding….but seriously, no one does.

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by KingRichard on Oct 8, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

cries silently to self

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It"

by shake n bake on Oct 8, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

the idea that it is

“fairly obvious that Matt Forte is the clear cut rookie of the year” is pretty funny.
look at his stats next to chris johnson’s and show me ONE area where he is “obviously” better. johnson averages almost 2 full yards better per carry!

by hal41605 on Oct 20, 2008 4:16 PM EDT 0 recs

How about you stop acting like a moron and read the responses above yours first.

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by KingRichard on Oct 20, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

ooooo so pissy

i read them and disagree with them. the fact that johnson has more yards despite not being “THE guy” just proves you are wrong.

you are one of those angry types. one of your own colts fans was so right on another page, KING DICK.
now i have to ridicule your precious above post even further.

you say:
“I still think Forte, for the touches he gets is a lot better than Johnson.”

so when forte averages 4.19 yds per touch and cj averages over 5.3 yards per touch, that means forte is a lot better? hmmmmm

this might be piling on, but the fact that johnson has more rush yards in 6 games than forte has in 7 games combined with the stated fact that forte is the lone option while johnson splits carries also shows that the only moron around here is you. and im pretty sure it’s no act.

by hal41605 on Oct 20, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

I like how everyone goes straight for the King Dick reference

like every single person thinks it’s clever original and that he probably didn’t have it somewhat in mind making the username.

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by shake n bake on Oct 20, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

actually i gave due credit to another poster

not clever or original, but apparently true

by hal41605 on Oct 20, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

That doesn’t prove shit you moron, stats don’t tell the whole story. It’s my opinion, if you don’t like it then fuck off. Capeche?

We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.

by KingRichard on Oct 20, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

what a loser

nice peach fuzz on your chin too, you scrawny jerk off.

did that big black guy buy you dinner before he put it up your ass or do you just give it up for free?

by hal41605 on Oct 20, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

What does that have anything to do with how much of a complete tool you are?

We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.

by KingRichard on Oct 20, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up 0 recs