More of the Same

by sobercoltfan06 on Nov 13, 2008 3:27 PM EST Comment 31 comments

Because my first post seems to have stirred up the pot more than i thought it would, I've decided that for my next post I would write about the future Colts coaching situation. I know I won't be in such a large minority when it comes to this topic and I'm interested to hear others opionions. My strong feeling (reminder that this comes from an anti-Dungy guy) is that Jim Caldwel will bring more of the same to the Colts we all love. He'll keep on a lot of the same coaches and pretty much just be a continuation of the current regime. I am wholeheartedly opposed to the direction of the Colts right now and would love to see us go pluck an up-and-coming coordinator from a team. Thoughts?

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The report out there now

is that it’s written into Caldwell’s contract that he’ll be the head coach when Dungy retires. Nothing to debate here. It’s already been decided.

Shonn Greene for Heisman
137 yards per game
6.1 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 3:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks Shake.

It is what it is, there’s no point in debating it.

The anti-pot-stirrer (is that a word?) in me is grateful you’re a contributor to this blog.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Nov 13, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Just looking for opinions of Caldwell. I was saying I would rather have had us look out of Indy for the replacement. Instead of criticizing me, just give me your opinions. Respond or don’t, no one is forcing you to even read this. I’m just looking for other Colt fans opinions.

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by sobercoltfan06 on Nov 13, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t understand the move in the first place. I didn’t know jack about the guy until I found out he was going to be the next headcoach. I just read the profile him on the Colts website, here’s a link

http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=coachbio&coach_id=19

Basically what is says is this:

Blah blah blah, Peyton put up sick numbers and he is the shit, blah blah blah, oh Caldwell was a coach or something, blah blah blah, peyton is awesome, blah blah blah, keyshawn johnson (I know right? who cares?) did stuff, blah blah blah, something about illinois.

Excuse me while I’m not sold on this guy.

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by KingRichard on Nov 13, 2008 3:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

wow

It’s gotta be tough to be a fan of a team when you’re “wholeheartedly opposed to the direction of [said team]”

by psvirsky on Nov 13, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I see it

what fan wants his team to win 5 straight division titles, set an NFL record for 12+ win seasons and be well positioned for a 7th straight playoff berth in 7 seasons under Dungy?

Shonn Greene for Heisman
137 yards per game
6.1 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think he has a legit point about this though. The thing that annoys me most about the Colts is their lack of variety in styles of play. Everyone knows how the Colts play. A little change to keep people on their toes would only benefit them in the long run.

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by KingRichard on Nov 13, 2008 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if it ain't broke...

5 straight division titles, set an NFL record for 12+ win seasons and be well positioned for a 7th straight playoff berth in 7 seasons under Dungy.

You would think if someone could just figure the Dungy Colts out it would have taken a lot less than 7 years and if they were figured out the Colts wouldn’t have just knocked off two division leaders to put themselves back into a great position for a wildcard spot.

Shonn Greene for Heisman
137 yards per game
6.1 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The record

speaks for itself!The only way we could have done better would be to win a Superbowl each year!!I hope Caldwell comes in and does nothing!He doesnt need to!

by jack-manning on Nov 13, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, shake...

how much great coaching is required when you have Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Edge, Addai, Dom, Saturday, Freeney, Mathis, Brackett, and Sanders.

Its a system defense. You know that. It’s not like Dungy is bringing the holy grail of coaching to the Colts and its not like he’s changed the offense since he’s been here. My point would be this: Caldwell may very well be the best person for the job, but people aren’t exactly beating down his door to offer him coordinator jobs, let alone HC jobs, so why the rush to name him the next HC? I would have had little to no problem with Dungy retiring, the Colts interviewing people, and then deciding that Caldwell was the guy. To me this just seems like Dungy using leverage to get a guy he wanted as HC>

by Nideak on Nov 13, 2008 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I couldn't agree more.......

by Ayrshire on Nov 19, 2008 8:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I read it the first time you posted it.

I would go off bragging about the Colts playoff record under Dungy btw. Everytime they are a huge favorite and landed a first round bye then fuck it up. Lets not even get into the blowout by the Jets in Dungy’s first year. :(

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by KingRichard on Nov 14, 2008 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't that is

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by KingRichard on Nov 14, 2008 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I want more of the same!

But I understand it when people don’t.

I think it’s because of the frustrating way the Colts play, our D always has trouble getting off the field, and our O has to play perfect.

Personally, more of the same sounds good to me, as long as P-money is at the helm.

Lord help us when he isn’t.

by furrycolt on Nov 13, 2008 4:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

They didn’t get the nickname “The Cardiac Colts” without a reason.

I will personally go into mourning when Peyton retires. I don’t even want to think about it right now.

\cries silently to self

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Nov 13, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Should I stir up the pot more...

… and talk about who we’re going to draft to start grooming as Peyton’s replacement? a la Aaron Rodgers?

by LovinBlue on Nov 13, 2008 4:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

the Aaron Rodgers situation was ugly, but you can't say they went with the wrong QB

Rodgers leads Favre in DYAR, DVOA, QB rating and ANY/A. The grand slam of QB eval stats.

Shonn Greene for Heisman
137 yards per game
6.1 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!

I like Graham Harrell. Probably 1st round. Too much $$$

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Nov 13, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Right Now

I’m seeing a third or fourth round for him. If we could get him in one of those rounds, that would be the steal of the century. I love the way Harrell plays.

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by Colts Homer on Nov 13, 2008 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That would be great.

He is going to be great in the NFL. Now, if we could arrange Harrell AND Crabtree…..bwahahaha. That would be scary cool.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Nov 13, 2008 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe pick up a QB in the draft

and let him sit on the bench for a year before peyton retires…..or is Jim the answer!?hahaha!im totally kidding!i’d rather have my grandmother in at QB over Jim!

by jack-manning on Nov 13, 2008 4:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

no.no.no.no.no.

no Sorgi

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Nov 13, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

sound about right

and peyton has said he wants to play about 15 seasons, so it may be time to start thinking about it.. Would be great for any young QB or even more than one to be able to sit behind him for a year or two and learn.

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The Thing About Caldwell Is

He is an offensive coach. I would rather have a defensive coach be replaced by a defensive coach, especially when we have a head coach-caliber defensive coordinator and a Dungy disciple in Minnesota that would be a good head coach.

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by Colts Homer on Nov 13, 2008 7:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I will admit that I'm not familiar with what Caldwell really does

Dungy and Meeks run the defense, Moore and Peyton call the plays, so I guess Caldwell is a offensive gameplanner and general overseer as the QB coach/associate head coach. If that’s right, he’s groomed to be the Indy head coach better than anyone (has more head coach-like responsibilities), but I don’t know what exactly he does.

Shonn Greene for Heisman
137 yards per game
6.1 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not knowing what he does

is troubling. Or is it just me? That said, I have a tiny, itty, bitty feeling that Polian and Irsay know what they’re doing.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Nov 13, 2008 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you can somehow doubt Dungy

“he had all this talent handed to him and any coach could have won with that team” Which is ridiculous, but not disprovable.

Polian on the other hand. He pretty clearly knows what he’s doing and is a giant part of the Colts success.

Irsay hired Polian and Dungy, so he’s seems to know how be be a great owner (hire great personnel people, and a great coach then back off).

Shonn Greene for Heisman
137 yards per game
6.1 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Indeed

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Nov 13, 2008 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Where's the defense?

I feel like the old Wendy’s commercial ’where’s the beef?‘, but I still don’t see much of a defense in Indy year after year. I have to hold Dungy responsible for this. His philosophy isn’t working and Peyton bails them out year after year, except for the superbowl run which was just a few games.

by Ayrshire on Nov 19, 2008 8:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs