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open thread for tonight

seeing as BBS seems to be AWOL still... Anybody else out there watching the game..

 

We need to root for the jets (which isn't hard rooting for Favre)  since we own the tie break over the Pats..

 

And the pats are missing both Adalius Thomas and Ty Warren.  The losses on defense may do this team in...  It is really their defense that won them 3 rings..

 

 

Blah Blah Blah... I am still short words.  This is a real pain to make this long enough..

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I was going to post a thread, then got distracted (story of my life there) by figuring out how much I could have made betting on my spread picks if I wasn’t a poor college student.

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6.1 yards per carry
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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Δ O'neal takes advantage of the lack of a force out rule

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6.1 yards per carry
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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

I have NFL sunday ticket

  and up here in canada TSN – carries the NFL network games so I get them

They claimed he was juggling, but didn’t look like it at all on the replay…

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

overturned on replay

well at least they got that right

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

stuck the feet really well

I didn’t think there was any chance he got both down live

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Patriots will win the division

So I want them to win to weaken the Jets in the WC standing, because ultimately I think the Patriots pull away with the division. I just don’t trust those other 3 teams.

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

Keller looks big for an undersized TE

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

nice long completion

They were talking about how the pats haven’t given up a TD on an opening drive yet this season… Kiss of death… let see if the jets can get it in..

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

like that stupid Vinitieri had never missed a FG in the RCA dome stat

that I wanted to stab the announcers every time the said it

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

My brother would always yell at the TV whenever that stat was said.

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

TD ... go jets...

never fails when the commentators go on about how ‘something has happened yet this season.’

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

Woot!

TD Leon Washington. A late addition to the starting lineup pays off early

by mgrex03 on Nov 13, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

reviewed the Fantasy implications of this game

Go Jets D and Randy Moss, Booooooo Wes Welker

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

Welker is the bigger threat

he isn’t the prima donna moss is and he is much better in the short passing game they use with Cassel.

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

10 minutes of game time gone

and I still have the only comment in to PatsPulpit open thread.

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

settle for a field goal

  maybe they are all at the game tonight..

Pats settle for the field goal..

J.. E..T..S jets jets jets..

J.. E..T..S jets jets jets..Wow that feels weird …

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Go Pats by 3 or less

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Jets now 4/4 on Third down

I think they are already missing Thomas

by mgrex03 on Nov 13, 2008 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

offseason pick ups

  Getting faneca and woody in the offseason I think made a big difference here too.. gives Favre the time to get the ball downfield.

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

advanced NFL stats did a breakdown of the Jets and Fins rebounds

with the Jets is more the D and running game improving. Favre is an upgrade, but he’s throwing more picks than the Pennington/Clements combo canceling out a lot of the improvement.

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yes... but

with favre back there they can run more easily since they have to account for the threat of the passing game more. And favre has always been prone to picks with his style of play..

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

it works both ways though

improved line play and more Leon Washington boosts the run game, which takes pressure off the pass game.

I think it’s line and D more than anything

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL Option play

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

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6.1 yards per carry
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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Former Deadspin editor Will Leitch

via KSK

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Dustin Keller with a fail

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

that was a bad drop...

and he didn’t catch the next one either..though it was a lot tougher

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

wow

without him and Thomas that is a Ssssssslllllllooooooooooooowwwwwwww LB corps

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah...

maybe they will try and get lawrence taylor to come out of retirement..

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

feel sorry for a young player

gets a start and gets hurt in the first quarter.

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

The Pats have had 5 different players carry the ball

in the first 20 minutes of the game

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

and Cassel

has the longest run of the night… says something about the pats running game..

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

HE could go all the way.....

TD…

now the pats are down two scores

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

Leon Washington is pretty good at this football thing

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

Leon Washington = Machine

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

right after the TD they cut to Favre on the sideline

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

Youtube about Washington (not Leon, but similarly awesome one though)

link
LANGUAGE WARNING!

Washington… Washington… 12 stories tall made of radiation

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Zebra delay

these guys should have a game clock on them too to keep a game moving..

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

without a replay I disagree with a PI

they were both handfighting

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

on replay I'm less sure, but stand by the above

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

saw the replay

  he pushes right into the WR without looking for the ball. definitely PI

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Cotchery intiated the contact by reaching out

and pseudo-stiff arming him

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

either way

I don’t have much sympathy for the pats the way they have benefitted by refereeing in the past

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

it was close and didn't matter anyway since Cotchery somehow caught it

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

thankfully

one less thing for Randy Moss to whine about after the game. Any patriot whining about calls is a pot calling the kettle black..

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

TD Jets

Wow, I can’t believe they’re owning the Pats like this.

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Too bad my husband is home tonight

I really want to be hooping and hollering!!!

by LovinBlue on Nov 13, 2008 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

batter defense

and missing your starting QB. That will kill you especially against a division rival

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

that should be battered defense

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

their center Koppen is hurt now

how many more guys can the Pats lose

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

STUPID coaching

Points are hard to come by, take the 3. Yikes.

Maybe the Patriots WON’T win this division..

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

especially with a back up center coming in

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

and it is on their own field

so they can’t complain about the field condition causing it

there kicker already made one 42 yarder easily.. why wouldn’t you try again.. Instead he gets his QB flattened.

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

That was intentional grounding

got away with one there

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

refs ruled it a tip

funny how the refs seem to be throwing flags more in favour of the patriots after the announcers going on about the patriots having only 26 penalties in 9 games – some kind of record low

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't tipped at all

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i tend to agree

The refs don’t seem to be to with it… but at least it is the pats mostly on the receiving end.

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA

on the feed I was watching, they just changed the channel to a Spanish televangelist show

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

LOLZ

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

they switched back after the commercial

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

so any bets on whether they kick the field goal this time?

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

SO STUPID

They got it this time, but this game could be 24-12.

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

Obvious that Belichick is pressing this...

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

They got the TD

But if they take that earlier FG like they should’ve, it’s a one possession game.

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

understandable

considering they are having a hard time stopping the jets offense.

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Moss

two targets, no receptions.

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

story of this season

Cassel can’t throw the long ball.. and Moss can’t run routes. So he is a big waste of money this year.. Gaffney and Watson right now are a lot more effective.

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

well there you go

1 reception 2 yards

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

FireJoeMorgan.com is being retired. even the Pats getting stomped, or both my picks hitting can’t salvage tonight.

I’m sad

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Ben Watson fails

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

turnover

well that might be the play of the game if the jets capitalize that might be it..

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

nope

the Jets line fails right back

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

NFLN fails at production

you tube

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

It is really kinda heartless to swear during the anthem lol.

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Benny Hill song

Describes that bad snap

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

Cassel wasn't even looking for it

that was a major screw up.

pats are beating themselves in this half..

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by bluegirl on Nov 13, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

KSK chat comment of the day

In about 15 seconds Rodney Harrison is going to limp onto the field and beat Leon Washington with a crutch

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

Favre is not a scrambler

by the time his finally decided to run he had no shot

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

Looked like Peyton trying to run

UG-LY

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton is at least decisive about it

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Chasing Points...

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

caught them

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Jets can't hold a lead

This team won’t do much if they make the playoffs, that’s for sure.

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

GO PATS BY LESS THAN 3

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

LOL pass hit the goal post

“GONG!”

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

TD Jets

Great drive

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

holding on Vrabel was questionable

could go either way.

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

LOLOLOLOL

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

Patriots have maybe two throws at the endzone.

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

By which I mean one

Since it’s 4th down

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy freaking crap

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

epic fail by the RT

but Cassel slips it and hits Moss perfectly

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Unbelieavble catch

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

That would be dumb

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

And if they would've kicked that field goal on the 4th and 3 a while back.

That would be a winner.

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

Hell of a catch

Close call on the foot, but it should stay a TD

by mgrex03 on Nov 13, 2008 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

KSK chat says

You’ll know they’re overturning it if the ref comes out of the booth with riot gear on.

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

BTW

Ty Law, other than that play, has been very good tonight.

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

He wasn't bad on that play

It was a perfect throw and perfect catch. Law didn’t do much wrong there.

by mgrex03 on Nov 13, 2008 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to see Favre throw a 90 yarder to win

by DaveT on Nov 13, 2008 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

I want a Pats FG

Jets cover and Pats win. 2 wins for my picks

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Drop Brady for Cassel, despite how funny Brady after 1 year of inactivity would be

by DaveT on Nov 13, 2008 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

Cassel has 400 yards passing

Along with 62 yards rushing. Pretty good evening for the QB.

by mgrex03 on Nov 13, 2008 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

51 pass attempts though

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

54 dropbacks counting the 3 sacks

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Still not close to the record this season

67 for Brian Griese vs. Chicago.

That’s a lot of throwing.

by mgrex03 on Nov 13, 2008 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Favre snipered

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

might be the worst thrown pass ever

by DaveT on Nov 13, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

it's Brett Favre

that probably won’t even be his worst tonight

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

If only his thumb was broken Jets would of won 56-10

by DaveT on Nov 13, 2008 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

Jets win with a TD by T..Jones – Calling it

by DaveT on Nov 13, 2008 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Coles to the 24

41 yard field goal, getting in the comfort zone

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Favre pick

calling it

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

They'll run it now

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

will bill call a t/o before kick?

by DaveT on Nov 13, 2008 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

35 yarder...

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

There it is

Jets win. Coin toss wins the game. Night all

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by MrNFL on Nov 13, 2008 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

Brett Favre

No picks in 2 weeks, wtf..

by DaveT on Nov 13, 2008 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

Yes!

Pats lose. We win Sunday and we pass them and put them out of a playoff spot.

http://naptownsfinest.com

by Colts Homer on Nov 13, 2008 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

if the Giants beat the Ravens and the Colts win they'll be in the 1st WC spot

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by shake n bake on Nov 13, 2008 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

YES!!

Here hoping that the Colts and Giants win.

by metal_militia on Nov 13, 2008 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Mannings from heaven?

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Nov 14, 2008 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

18to88 league uses D/ST

YAY LEON WASHINGTON.

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