Jay 16 looks in on the Colts future. His game thoughts on the Colts problems and the answers.
I watched the game sunday, and I couldn't help but but think to myself this is probably the Colts team we are going to see the rest of the way. There will be no change in schemes at this point, they are just going to grind it out during games until they find a way to win. They have been consistant on doing that this year, so I can only assume thats whats going to happen the rest of the way.
Again sunday the offense played better in the 3rd quarter. Manning was checking off less for the second consecutive week and they scored pretty good against a resurged chargers defense. My only thought is why now? At this point in his career Manning looks really out of gas by the time he hikes the ball, its alot of work and energy to call out audibles and dummy audibles then have to perform, rather then just running the play. It's probably frusteration having to relay the audibles to the OFFENSIVE LINE when it should be the centers job(I'll get to that later).
Passing Game and Running Game- I have a problem with the Colts offense. They seem OBSESSED with trying to run the ball. Especially at times when YOU know the run is coming. The running game looks forced to me, like they feel like even though its getting stuffed, they have to at least run it 20 times a game. This is why its not working.......Teams have figured out the schemes and are jumping on the routes on offense. Yes, you heard this correctly, teams have figured out the Colts offense, or at least have caught up to it. I watched last night and have been watching closely all the way, I won't hear anymore excuses, because it's clear to me. The Colts receivers are still great, but when everyone has seen the same tape over and over again with the same routes for every receiver, todays NFL player can adjust especially with the headset communicater. The Colts are relying on just talent with good throws and good catches to get it done. There is no running after the catch no more, which is a sign of this, especially when they do make a catch the defense knows where they're going to be. This is coaching, this not hating on Dungy, or anything else, he just was never good on adjustments, especially on the offensive side. But this is clear to me. The only element of surprise on this Colts Team is Anthony Gonzelas, and Rhodes. They are the unsung heroes on this team this year, that oposing defenses are having trouble with. This is the main reason why I think win or lose this year, Dungy must step down.
Offensive Line and Defensive Line- Wow............This Richards guy filling in for Saturday is a nightmare. I watched the Colts burn 2 timeouts on one drive because Richard's job is to relay the calls to the rest of line, when he couldn't do that, Manning was left to do both jobs, not enough time on the play clock, result CHAOS. He had the worst game last night by far and really stuck out about it, again this has to be hung on coaching, this is the 12th week of the season and your team still isn't communicating or knows how to do their job, the only thing he does well is snap the ball. Tony Ugoh sorry still not as good as Tarik Glenn yet, he needs to really comeback next year and work on his concentration and be a relied blocker, too inconsistant, again coaching.
Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney- These guys are coming on. For not getting any sacks, I would still hate to go against Freeney, he looks like some kind of Tazmanian devil, spinning out of control ready to destroy a quarterback, how intimidating is that, Robert Mathis was just awesome last night, 2 sacks forced fumble. They still have a problem with over pursuing, but in beginning of games they sniff out the run to assist with the lack of talent in the inside of the Colts line. They still got run on quite a bit, but I enjoyed watching these two last night.
Linebackers and Secondary- I'm ready to give these guys a free pass. How can you ask a seconday to cover receivers that are 6'5 and 6'6 when your guys are 5'10. I mean be thankful they at least make the tackle. I watched what looked like giant receivers come across the middle and make catches with 3 or 4 colts around them, I was just shaking my head, I thought I was watching Willy Wonka. What a mismatch, this is why they lost last year, without Freeney and Mathis is doesn't matter if Sanders is in there, if there is no pass rush of any kind, the law of physics tell me to throw it up every time to those receivers and they will catch it on bad throws.
Special Teams- Adam and the rest of the special teams unit should have been the Horse Trailer player of the game. They are an improving unit on what was a complete joke in previous years. They finally have a good returner in Ratliff, (that you can actually count on to fair catch without fumbling) and another in Chad Simpson that can actually get it past the 20 yard ling without fumbling. You remember the bonehead holding calls in previous years, gone this year, I don't see them hardly. Along with the games best punter in my opinion, the special teams of the Colts have shined this year. They would be silly to not sign Ratliff and Simpson next year.
MVP TALK- Peyton Manning is not putting up Mvp like numbers this year. But he is winning games by himself this year. It's not that he's played badly. He's had good games, but then last night was very average statistically, but then again he was clearly the difference maker especially in the last drive, what a call to go for it, gutsy for Dungy to call it as well. Great play, Great idea not to run it this time like you did on the previous drive on 3rd and 1, when everyone knew it was a run, and was yelling pass it on tv. So you would have to watch the games this year to vote for Manning for MVP. If you watch the games, he's almost doing it with NO HELP. That's what it looks like, offensive line is off, receivers are dropping passes, not getting seperation, timing is weird, (Him and Harrison is getting better but, still evertime Manning throws to him, it's clear Manning doesn't know where he's going to be, so there is overthrowing and underthrowing going on here) Harrison ran the exact same clear out that Gonzo did in the third quarter, Manning hit Gonzo in stride on his way to go out of bounds, when Harrison did the same route on the awesome fourth and 1 call, Manning just lofted it to let Harrison adjust to it. It was just an observation, maybe Manning did it on purpose to let the clock go down. It was great to see Harrison and Manning talking on the sideline, and to see Marvin have a smile on his face, and watching the joy in his body language, that's what happens when your contributing to winning, and even for a guy like Harrison who always seems like he's in a shell, you could see, with that clutch catch in the final seconds had brought him back to the team and he was finally involved. Welcome back Marvin Harrison, we missed you.
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Having a coach with nerves of steel is better than having a flake that tries to change things all the time. You only have to vary a route a step and it’s a new route. It’s about players doing it right not about having the exact right scheme. There is no such thing. Dungy’s formula works which is why every team he has ever coached has gone to the playoffs. Getting rid of Dungy would be the worst thing this team could ever do.
Richards is a rookie. He did pretty well once he got settled in. He’ll be a great replacement for Saturday. Experience like last night is valuable toward that end.
They run the ball when they think they can make something out of it. I thought they ran it okay. That is a good defense they were facing.
The coaching all around is good. Thats why the Colts don’t collapse when they hit a little adversity. Every team in the NFL has great players. The ones with great coaches are the ones that get into the playoffs every year. Dungy drives by looking out at the horizon, not by looking straight down at the road. If you look straight down you will not see where you are going. He sticks to his proven philosophies because they are proven. Juking and jerking the wheel all the time lands you in a ditch.
by wcwills on Nov 24, 2008 10:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Richard played fine
You can’t expect the guy to be like the all-pro he was replacing, if anyone did, then he wouldn’t have been a 7th round draft pick.
If two timeouts was all the damage that was caused, then i’m pretty happy with how he played.
Secondly, what game was you watching? The chargers had no answer for our receivers, especially Gonzo, and Manning was spreading it about all over the place.
In our scheme we don’t let Peyton just sit back and wait for a man to get open a la Brady last year, our line isn’t good enough for that, so Manning puts it where he thinks the receiver is going to be, and the CB aint, he throws on anticipation.
by furrycolt on Nov 24, 2008 10:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
seriously!
sorry dude, I just can’t see the basis for many of your criticisms of last night and indeed the colts season. Last night was a great performance by the offence. They were facing a psyched up San Diego D witha lot of new looks, bringing all kinds on pressure on the QB (their new DC seems to be doing a great job to me). Peyton was magnificent and so were the receivers, one interception and that was only because Peyton made an error by slightly underthrowing (his only error all night) when he again looked nothing short of league MVP. Jamey Richards made a couple of mistakes but on the whole played reasonably well, if you’re expecting more from a rookie 7th round draft pick then you are a hard man to please (and remember what kind of monster he was up against last night!). Your post is the first time I have ever heard the suggestion that the COLTS are obsesed with runnning the ball. Granted there were a couple of very obvious runs dialled up, which were duly stuffed, but I thought Addai did a tremendous job last night. Bottom line, great performance, lets look forward to sealing up the post season against the browns, bungles and lions.
by scottishcoltsfan on Nov 24, 2008 10:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Many Colts looked good last night
But, in particular, my favs were Manning, Wayne, Harrison, Mathis, Vinatieri, Dom and Joe. Sessions looked kind of weak on his tackling fundamentals though.
by Ayrshire on Nov 24, 2008 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yawn
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by KingRichard on Nov 24, 2008 11:06 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I remember U said Marvin is "done"
oops
by BetterD on Nov 24, 2008 11:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stop trolling jay. If you keep this up, I’m just going to continue to report your posts, and I suggest everyone else do the same.
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by KingRichard on Nov 24, 2008 1:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
is he saying offensive things?
I didn’t even try to read the fanpost and just skimmed the comments.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
Big Ten's leading Rusher, Leads FBS
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 24, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you considering being an obnoxious twat “offensive,” then yes he is. The guy has stated in this fanpost alone he isn’t even a Colts fan. Not only that, but all he does is rag on the team (whether the reasons are legit or not) and starts trolling people who disagree with him.
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by KingRichard on Nov 24, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he said some good and bad things about the Colts…some Colts fans disagreed with the bad..its jays opinion…jay mentioned some good points but some points i disagree with
by ColtsFanNChiTown on Nov 24, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ignore him.
Clearly someone pissed in his cornflakes this morning.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Nov 24, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we ban someone...
…for bad spelling and poor grammar? Seriously this is painful.
by LovinBlue on Nov 24, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WOW
This has been the biggest waste of time. Reading this has actually made me less intelligent.
Jay16, you give the problems that we might have but no answers. Also last I checked we did win the game
by canadiancolts on Nov 24, 2008 2:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Run
Is not only about getting ground yards but its also about showing the other team that you will run the ball when it is called for, this also allows you to actually use play-action and fool the defense even for a second because you aren’t passing no matter what the situation.
I believe if we didn’t run at all then we wouldn’t of gotten that last play off to Marvin Harrison.
by DaveT on Nov 24, 2008 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's right.
Have to run even when we can’t get the yardage. If they think we’re going to run…we get play action. I believe Peyton said something to the effect of “we’re committed to running the ball” before the Pittsburgh game…so far, it seems to be working. I’ll take play-action every day of the week. There is no QB in football who’s better at it.
Makes sense to me.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Nov 24, 2008 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Play action
The colts are a play action team, they are not a running team. The run is there to set up the pass thats it. Why do you think we like good blitz pick up backs and ones adapt at catching the ball out of the backfield (except the drop by addai against houston that was kinda bad).
by canadiancolts on Nov 24, 2008 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Run game
Jay you left out how brutal the Run D’s the Colts have faced through out this tough stretch and the whole season in general. Factor that in with a constently rotating offensive line (due to injuries), and addai being out, it is sure to struggle.
Defensively, our secondary is banged up, we lost 2 DT’s (one starting). Believe me, this team is still great and still has a shot to win it all next year. That and I think Peyton will get that little underthrown pass thing fixed but this year at the least. If there were ever a QB who works harder at getting better its Manning.
by metal_militia on Nov 24, 2008 6:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But, they're winning games now, which is the important thing.
So, maybe they will win in the playoffs? Even if they are averaging less points, as long as they score more than the other team….that’s all we need.
by Ayrshire on Nov 25, 2008 3:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good god what a tedious post
Jay, it’s a shame that you choose to present your arguments in such a belligerent and sarcastic manner, because you do have a few good points buried amongst all the insults and over-generalizations.
In the NFL, the bottom line is wins. The Colts are winning despite a rash of injuries that would make most teams wilt. I have never read anybody on this site saying the Colts are a perfect team. In fact, one of the things that I respect most about this site is the willingness of its members to analyze the team’s flaws as well as its strengths. Over the past couple of years I’ve read some of the best football analysis on this site that I’ve seen anywhere (and I read a lot of football sites).
Your method is basically to set rigid terms for debate and shut down the argument before it has begun: you imply (or flat-out state) that anybody who disagrees with you is either a clueless homer or blind to the truth. You seem to think that you’re the only one who knows what they’re talking about or has a valid opinion. This is very insulting to all of us who have spent the last couple of years analyzing our beloved team. You should realize that these tactics will not win you many converts here or anywhere else.
by ctnyc on Nov 25, 2008 12:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
jay16
It is not that everyone is trying to gang up on you or put you down for spelling or anything or that sort. What everyone is up in arms about is that you are constantly contradicting what you have previously said, nothing you say makes much sense anyway.
If it was a pissing contest you wanted, then that is what you have. Let me assure you though that you are losing.
by canadiancolts on Nov 25, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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