What others are saying about Pats v. Colts
The Big Lead was not impressed:
Anyone else find this game incredibly difficult to watch?
I did, and my team won.
This team is average on offense, average on defense, and average on special teams. It is no surprise that they are 4-4. It's really tough to find 6 wins left on the schedule, even assuming they sweep the rest of their home games. They aren't that good, but there is a lot of pride left on this team. They won't go out quietly. There could be some real joy in watching Peyton rally an undermanned team into the playoffs.
Again, I've disagreed with 18 to 88 on this point all season. The Broncos an "average" team. The Jaguars are an "average" team. The Colts are a very good team playing inconsistently. The results look average because the record is average (4-4). Meanwhile, the Titans are an average team playing at a very consistent level. The result is an 8-0. Play consistent in all areas, and the results are often a W.
And finally, AOL Snickerhouse:
AOL Fanhouse also thought the Jags and Chargers were elite teams prior to the start of 2008. Go fig.So the Colts sit at 4-4 and right in the AFC mix for the playoffs, and the Pats now find themselves in a three-way tie atop the most competitive division in football at 5-3 (Dolphins are 4-4).
The way things are going right now, I don't think either team makes the postseason.
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"A very good team..."?
BBS, I’m sorry but I don’t see a very good team on the field. Now much of that is due to injuries and players abandoning the team (EJ and QP) but what’s left on the field/sideline does not look to me like a very good team playing inconsistently. Yes we have some elite players, but even elite players need decent play around them to excel. Our Oline is a shambles right now. Our best Olineman 63 is playing like a hero but hurt, both of our tackles are suspect at best. Our guards are a rookie with potential (but not there yet) and a career journeyman any position Olineman who’s fine for depth but not the long term answer as a starter. Until the teams gets the Oline straightened out we can’t run effectively, which means the play action is neutered, which hurts the opportunities for the long ball, and makes the field more crowded on the shorter routes too.
On defense we can’t get teams off the field. On the rare occasions we get teams into 3rd and long we can’t generate pass rush and our secondary gives so much cushion they practically invite the uncontested pass. We aren’t giving up the big plays which is good, but then again the teams still march down and score which keeps our offense off the field and keeps us from scoring. This team has some core pieces to still be a great team but until we get the Oline and Dlines bolstered (which isn’t likely to happen this season) we are a mediocre to slightly above mediocre team with a few players that have the ability to put the team on their backs and steal a win (e.g. Houston) every few games on top of the weeks where they just play better than the other team and deserve to win (e.g. last night).
In other words
over the second have of the season we could go anywhere from 6-2 to 2-6. That’s just how the league is right now. Maybe it’s always been this way we just didn’t notice it while sitting at the top…
The Colts have
way above average talent on offense. They just need an opportunity to be on the field more. They got a slow start this season for obvious reasons, but I think they’re way above average as long as they have Peyton Manning. That’s why they’ve led the league offensively for so many years. The defense is below average and although they look good at times, just can’t keep it together for three plays in a row unfortunately. So, because of the defensive problems, the Colts are a 500 team this year (which some call average)…..at least for the first half of the season.
The defense
has 4 above average players being paid really well, three of whom aren’t really earning their money right now. (mathis, freeney, brock)
Bob does well when he’s in and he’s had the injury so I excuse him. Those three are paid to get pressure and they aren’t doing it. something has to change. I think excuses are lame in this case…adapt, change up the scheme. DO SOMETHING. The colts are not pressuring the qb or getting the sacks.
Hard to find six wins?
I don’t see what’s so hard about finding six wins in the schedule. The Colts will be favored vs Houston, Detroit, and Cincinnati, as well as @ Cleveland. And with the Titans looking like they’re going to wrap up home field early, we could be seeing their backups at the Lube in week 17 in the exact situation as last year, only the complete opposite. So thats 5 games where the Colts will be favored. And there’s a pretty good chance they’ll be favored in at least one of @ SD or @ Jax, depending on what happens between now and those games. Of course, this isn’t to say that all these wins are in the bag, but a 6-2 finish is not some pie in the sky fantasy.
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 6:07 PM EST reply actions
problems
this isn’t exactly new,for me there are 2 huge problems me need to fix if we are to achieve anything noteworthy this year. The first is obviously our running game, a combination of poor run blocking and addai looking slow and hesitant in the backfield is getting us absolutely killed. The second is our fu**ing hideously terrible 3rd down play, we weren’t even close to making a play last night, our coverage was just awful and I lay a lot of this on the LB’s as BBS pointed out in his previous post. Simply, I think we have some very good players who are getting us by (just) and covering up for some abysmal general play. I can’t help the dark side in me rooting for a huge hit on big ben tonight cause we are going to need all the help we can get against the steelers next week. Mewelde Moore is a good runner and having watched no.33 and ‘lawfirm’ completely destroy us on the ground last night, I’m already having kittens about a huge match next week. If we win it, I think it could really spark our season.
by scottishcoltsfan on Nov 3, 2008 6:41 PM EST reply actions
BBS
I have to agree and disagree with you on many things pertaining to your post. I still believe the Colts can be a very good team, but they haven’t played very good obviously the first half of the season. I think the offense is getting their act together, but I think it is really hard for them to get a rythm when the Colts defense does not get off the field and only allow 1 punt a game pretty much. Seriously, the Patriots had four drives over 6 minutes which is the most frustrated thing to watch. What Peyton and the offense has been given, I think they have put the Colts in winnable games. The defense is not very good at all right now, which makes the Colts only a good team, not a “very good team”.
The Titans are playing consistently like you said, but they are better than just an average team. They have a better defense than the Colts along with a better running game. Those two factors for them alone makes them a good football team. I still believe the Colts are better, but the Titans wouldn’t be undefeated at this point in the season if they are only an average team.
by ColtsFanNChiTown on Nov 3, 2008 6:51 PM EST reply actions
Part of being a good team is playing consistently.
We are, right now, a very average team – partially because players aren’t playing to their talent, reputation and ability and partially because players who do get their level aren’t doing it often enough.
Our record is accurate. We’re an average team.

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