Scouting the Steelers: MNF Open Thread
by Brad Wells on Nov 3, 2008 7:31 PM EST
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PrintThe Steelers will host the Colts next week. Tonight, they play the Redskins. Interested in seeing how they plan to attach Washington's D.
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Over/Under on sacks on Big Ben?
Ben has been sacked 23 times in 7 games (3.3 per game)
Redskins have 10 sacks on the season (tied with our Colts for 29th in the league) for an average of 1.25 per game
It’s the stoppable force vs the movable object
I’ll set it at 2. Place your bets.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
wooo mixing politics and sports
fun fun fun
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Can we bring politics into stampede blue for just 1 night?
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
If we are I propose a 3rd party only rule
can’t discuss either of the major party candidates
fair compromise?
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
sneaky sneaky
surprise onside
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Captain "I read my playbook naked and take pictures" Chaos
with the first catch of the game
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
The Zorn Star goes for it
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
or not
stupid announcers confusing me
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
credit to KSK of course
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
It might be better for the Steelers to win
if the Ravens win the North then it doesn’t matter that the Colts have the tiebreaker on them.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
The didn't take long
Pressure on Ben right away, tipped, picked
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Did they say Sellers was 280?
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
That is a gigantic fullback
6’3" 280lbs
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Wow, I dont think the colts ever had one that big - Santi, nope - Tamme, nope - Mungro, nope
I gues you could count Keck and Reid
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
The Redskins are ugly good
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Dont think
that would be the Colt game plan for we dont play Blitz/Man Press
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Its been so long since I've seen a good Freeney sack
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
6 weeks
Houston was his last one
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
FO's game charters had him up there on the list of QB hits a week or two ago
so he’s been getting close
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
They didn't use to play a 4-4
either. Made we’ll finally see some of Wheeler and could bring at least one good blitzer.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Jennings wouldn't be at a size disadvantage either
Against Holmes. I’m thinking we will see some Wheeler next weekend.
pressure on QB
Now, that’s the kind of pressure we need to get on big Ben next week!
always bad D
Have to agree with you there. Something in the coaches/owners philosophy is not working.
At this point
Freeney could be our most overpaid player.
He is good when they dont double team him
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
The other players along the D line
arent taking advantage of their 1-1 mathups
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
To me
Freeney was still worth the asking price. Its the Run D and offense hat keeping him from doing his thing
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Freeney is regularly drawing both the LT and LG
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
they should
Though, that is kind of hard as well when all teams do is dink and dunk
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
They are better in adjusted sack rate (21st vs 29th)
which accounts for how few pass plays they face compared to normal Ds and also the easily converted down/distances.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
That kills his spin so he can only get pressure with his outside move
and an occasional bull rush
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Well, whatever the reason
I’m going to be extremely P.O.ed if Freeney doesn’t start getting some sacks soon. It’s getting ridiculous.
Once the offense starts getting leads
and the Run D starts giving up 1 or 2 yards instead of 5-6 yards to make the downs manageable combined with all those little quick three steps and out passes, the Sacks will come
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
I hope so
because as someone else mentioned, in his ‘prime’ (04/05), he was getting approximately 15 or so sacks per game. Weren’t people focusing on him then too? Maybe he’s lost a step due to injury? Any thoughts?
Dont think so
He got alot of pressure this year, but it stopped when people stopped passing and started running. Kind of like the 2006 season
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
nope, double team
nobody thought of anything until freeney had 15 sack seasons
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
He's a decent run stopper
if they didn’t have to use Brock inside at all I’d say they should cut him.
He’s the only DE with any real size.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
he's starting at DT
started all 8
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
you can play any position on the colts d line, as long as you are small and fast
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
and if one guy quits and another smokes himself out of the league
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
three tech though
We really need to use Muir more since he is our only big DT. Use him and it should help the run D and free up players like Freeney
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
They healthy scratched Muir yesterday
which I didn’t get. He looked good vs Tenn
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
What is healthy scratch anyway?
As in he was injured?
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
they have to make 8 players inactive for each game
usually they don’t have 8 guys too hurt to play so the guys who sit out even though they are healthy are “healthy scratches”.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Was Keiaho one of them?
Or was he hurt? I think the Run D would have been a lot better if he was in
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and if you know anything
What about Lilja? When do we have to activate him? Right now I think we should place him on IR
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Polian said they have to decide this week
if they are activating or IRing him. Pollak hasn’t been good. If Lilja is really close they should keep him.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Keiaho was hurt
limited practice wednesday then no more for the rest of the week
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Inactives were
Hayden, Keiaho, Hughes, Justice, Hall, Santi, Muir, Dawson
Muir and Justice hadn’t been on the injury report
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Thought I saw Dawson during the New England game
Maybe I was just seeing things
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Clifton not Keyunta
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
I wasnt seeing things
He really did play
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29656&season=2008&displayPage=tab_gamecenter
Look at the video, youll see 96. Look at the stats and you will see his name.
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Clifton was inactive
we are one away from cornering the market on NFL players with the last name Dawson
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Oh
I thought you ment Clifton was active and Keyunta wasn’t. lol
by metal_militia on Nov 3, 2008 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
he was suppose to be back yesterday
but apparently he tweaked his hamstring in his first practice back and couldn’t practice with both injuries. Hopefully he’ll be back this week.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Hey!
That last play looked like our run defense!
Washington should have caught that!
Reggie Wayne would have!
I was against the Steelers
But then Shake reminded me that we already would have a tie-breaker over the Ravens so now I’m torn. But I think I’m still for the Skins.
our DT's
Tripplett – Free agent, Simon – mental?, Mcfarland – old/injuries/cut, Reagor – injuries/cut, Pitcock – quits (1 year pro), Johnson – smokin the refer All IN 4 YEARS
Nearly a second sack there
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
I'll take him Thornton, Peterson and June too
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
I miss Thornton, I believe he is a free agent
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Still with the Titans
he’s started all 8 games for them
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
I like the Steelers line completely blowing up against a stunt
The Colts DL does stunt a good amount. You can do that when you are fast.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
This is a ridiculously boring game
It is a 3 and out fest.
The Redskins need to send Moss deep to stretch the field. It should open it up for the underneath stuff and for Portis. They keep doing the same thing over and over.
I'm doing chem homework instead of watching the game
it’s that boring
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
That could turn it
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
#3 actually
must have missed one
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
no one listens to evannesance i take it
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
a little higher level than that
a couple electron configurations of transition metal ions is all I have left, frustrating problems.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I HATE HIGH SCHOOL AP+ CHEMISTRY with passion
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I've been told that
All the shit I have to do to get into a good School, hoping to a school in Indiana. My Dad is a environmental scientist, works out of indy
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm getting it a second time
2nd year/AP chem in high school. Chem 1 this semester.
Re-doing it sucks, but at least I remember enough that I never have to go to lecture.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Thats the kind of college I want to get into
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I like it
but I have nothing to compare it to
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I live in Florida against my will
I pray I can live full time in indy one day. I miss my friends and the seasons.
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
seasons are overrated
the high on Friday is suppose to be 39, it might snow here.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
thats what i miss
It sucks when is 80 all the time
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
I live 5 min from the beach
i go their 1 time tops a year. it never changes
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
cry me a river
while I’m standing in the snow waiting for a bus
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
While I sweat my ass off in 110 humid weather
the best of both worlds
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
from Iowa CIty
I never considered anywhere else
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
I could do that in Calculus
I didn’t have to go to class until Calc 3, and I knew that stuff too.
I miss those days.
Obama endorses a college football playoff
8 team tourney
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
So far
Halfway decent defensive slugfest so far. Lotsa punts, the hefty Plackemeier and Berger are probably tired.
Blocked punt was huge though. I’m still curious if that dumb onside kick early costs them the game in the end.
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LOLROFLMAO
Meh
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The Redskins came into this game with 10 sacks in 8 games (same as the Colts now)
they have 3 in the first half. The Colts are going to be able to get pressure.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Fatty McButterPants is warming up
Roeslisburger is hurt YAYAYAAY!
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
that's kind of mean
I’m excited for the entertainment value and the possible big boost to the Colts. I wish Ben a speedy recovery (speedy=8 days)
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Fatty has a cannon
it just takes an hour to load
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
actually 31
on 19 attempts. He had more yards on his two rushing attempts (46)
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
I blame ESPN for not being specific
The team had 10 total passing yards, as they take sack yards out of team passing yards.
1.6 yards/attempt is still not awesome.
ESPN knows about net yards?
I thought they just used QB wins and clutchness.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
as much as I hate the guy and wish him ill
he’s played pretty well. He did a great job of throwing to whoever Nnamdi Asomugha wasn’t covering yesterday.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, Well Played
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It's his throwing shoulder
and we have a (the first?) Brady mention.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
I'm not
8:30 class.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
It was that or take it monday and tuesday night
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
LOL the steelers are full of special teams fail
missed XP
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Yep
Dungy: “Manning, your ints are up, were going with the clip board holder”
Sorgi steps up and leads the team down the field for a score.
A very cold day in hell
If Peyton goes down
I want Addai running the wildcat
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was cute
when the Pats ran it last night. But … but … but… the Fins did it with success (insert crying here)
for some reason it works better with Ronnie Brown and Sticky Ricky
than with Kevin Faulk and the Lawfirm
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
He tried a pass his rookie season. It looked horrible. better stick with maytag guy
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
most wildcat plays are run
you only throw with it if you see that the secondary are abandoning their assignments
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i think it was a one time thing for the colts
Other than lining up DTs as full backs the colts dont have many trick plays
by colts9318rock on Nov 3, 2008 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
No screens, no draws for the Skins
In the mean time, the Steelers are bringing 6 guys on just about every play.
Campbell is playing tentatively tonight. He needs to take some risks. It is ok to throw an INT once in a while being aggressive.
So......
Anyone getting worried yet?
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 10:41 PM EST reply actions
their pass rush is scary
their pass blocking is comical
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
That end around failed miserably
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Indeed
Am I a bad person if I hope Ben is hurt?
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 10:44 PM EST reply actions
only if you hope he's hurt for more than 8 days
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Going to bed, tend to not care when Colts are not playin
AP chemistry test tomorrow joy, catch you all later
Good luck
But I can’t believe you don’t want to stick around to watch Zorn bugle the clock management.
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
That's a pick and fumble
maybe Campell can play with some aggression now
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
No kidding
Hopefully we’ll see a pass over 5 yards
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Not looking good for my Redskins pick
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Catch. Fumble.
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Wow
Maybe I’d rather face Roethlisberger.
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 11:00 PM EST reply actions
To be fair
Leftwich is also getting some semblance of protection. Roethlisberger sure got none
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Forgot to cover the RB there
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
Where's the pressure?
they aren’t getting to Leftwich even though he’s less mobile with a slower release than Ben
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
They've been on the field a long time in the second half
Thanks to bad play calling and not making 3rd down conversions.
Another awful roughing call
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?
Isn’t it only a penalty if you lead with the top/crown of your helmet?
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Brutal
But that one was still better than the one on Tuck. Worst call ever
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
This Steeler D
is going to be VERY tough to beat next week. I’d say we’re deserving of under-dog status for sure.
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Steelers a 3 point favorite right now
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
I would have expected like Steelers -6 or so.
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
and it's @PIT
so without homefield that’s a pickem
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Nov 3, 2008 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, that's an AWFUL spot
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Why
Is this taking so long? That was obvious
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Well that's it
Off to sleep…
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A blocked punt
or a very quick score or the Skins are done
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
They should've brought the house at that
You have to sell out for it at this point
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Can't dink and dunk here
you need 3 scores in 5 minutes. You need points now.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
That pass rush is scary
but Campbell has frozen up or tried to break out of the tackles on a lot of the pressures. Peyton will handle the heat better.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
140 yards per game
6.3 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
For sure
Once he sees this film, he’ll know where to go with the ball right away
by Jay Cutler's Barber on Nov 3, 2008 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
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