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First a disclaimer: my feeings for the Indianopolis Colts leave me feeling rather ashamed almost. I frequently acknowledge Peyton Manning's greatness; there's no denying he's as good a role model as any in sports, for his work ethic if nothing else; and regardless of whether you agree with him or not on things like religion, it's hard not to feel anything but respect for Tony Dungy. And as a Steelers fan, that sentiment is amplified due to his deep roots with the Pittsburgh Steelers during the Chuck Noll years.
With ALL that said. I really don't like the Colts. Don't know what it is. I want the Steelers to win this one more than any other game on the schedule. Part of the resentment is hard to pinpoint. Part of it stems from my unwavering awareness of just how good and dangerous any Colts team is at this stage in Peyton's career come playoff time.
So, let's hope both teams play well and more than anything else, avoid any injurys to either side. If your situation has been anything like the Steelers, you likely feel like one or two more key losses could be the straw that breaks the camels back. A clean game, please please please.
So as we all get excited in anticipation for Sunday, feel free to ask away about anything Steelers related past, present or future. Me and other Steelers partisans who will likely make the trek over here are at your disposal.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.
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offensive line
How do you feel about your offensive line this year… Your QB has been sacked a lot. Do you think this stems from offensive line play or something Ben is doing?
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by bluegirl on Nov 6, 2008 5:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
ah th $1 million dollar question right off the bat
Hard to pintpoint the blame anyone place.
1) The offensive line personnel isn’t great, that’s for sure. We’ve got kind of a journeyman at center who’s actually doing better than expected but is still nothing even close to approaching dominant. Chris Kemoeatu (Guard) is a bulldozer in the running game but pretty suspect in pass protection. And on and on. The one silver lining has been the play of G Darnell Stapleton, who’s filled in for the injured Kendall Simmons. National columnists refer to Simmons as ‘our best offensive linemen’ but he wasn’t. He’s been awful for two years now. Stapletons been a ball of energy and really helped quite a bit.
2) The play calling was awful to start the year. Way to many slow developing vertical pass plays that required exquisite protection.
3) BUT, perhaps part of the problem was Ben holding on to the ball too long.
So it’s hard to really lay the blame at the feet of any one person or unit. It definitely is a problem though and it wouldn’t surprise me if your speed rushers had some success Sunday getting to Ben or Byron.
by Blitzburgh on Nov 6, 2008 6:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
byron or ben?
which to you think is likely to start.. I think most colts fans would rather see Byron as we know him well and know how to get to him.
And is good to see someone else who is up at a ridiculous early hours…
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by bluegirl on Nov 6, 2008 6:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel it's pretty even
If Cowher were still our coach, I’m sure you’d be seeing Ben (for further reading, consult the 2006 season). I’m sure Ben wants to play and will unless the coaches stop him, which honestly, I hope they do. Ben’s clock isn’t ticking quite right now, and it was blatantly obvious when Byron came into the game with the same coordinator, the same OL, the same skill players, facing the same defense and made the offense look decent. I’d like to see us sit him for a week or two and help him recover his health, timing, accuracy, patience, and elusiveness – which have all been lacking.
Leftwich is a lower tier starter, but he’s healthy now and a perfectly capable backup. He has holes in his game, but he throws a good deep ball, which can make teams think twice about playing 8-in-the-box cover-3 or cover-1-man to stop the run.
I’m hoping Leftwich starts, but Ben will want to play and usually gets his way. I’ll say 55/45 Ben.
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by BadMaafala on Nov 6, 2008 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
After the recent article (http://post-gazette.com/pg/08311/925823-66.stm) I expect it is more like 75/25 Ben. Actually, I expect him to start. I just hope he gets back to last years shape, or the times this year he has looked brilliant. As opposed to NYG, WAS, PHI where he has looked worse than horrible.
by steelguy99 on Nov 6, 2008 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Special teams
Have the Steelers special teams really been as bad as advertised? Or, have injuries hurt the area?
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by BigBlueShoe on Nov 6, 2008 8:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It depends on which aspect of special teams you are referring to. Our return game is awful, simply awful. The steelers are 30th at kick returns with an avg of 20 yards and our punt avg is worst in the league with an average of 5.3. We have tried varied personnel returning but just can’t get it done. Last game we blocked a punt, and personally I’d like to see us try that more, but it probably won’t happen too often.
On coverage we are pretty dominant. We have had a lot of injuries to gunners and other special team tacklers, but we have had a lot of people on the practice squad that stepped up. Then they got injured, and the guys that we put back on the practice squad came back up to play. We have basically shut down any returners faced thus far. This is a huge worry for steelers fans because of last year though, so we still cringe every time a ball is caught for a return. But so far, knock on wood, there has been little cause for concern in coverage.
Our FG kicker is a machine and seemed like he might go out for part of the season. He seems alright now.
Now, the good stuff. At the beginning of the year our draft choice punter from last year went on IR. We brought in two punters to compete and chose Mitch Berger. He was doing okay, not great, but okay. Then two weeks ago he pulled his hamstring against the NYG. The same game, you might have seen it on SNF, our long snapper was injured. The next week we signed a new long-snapper who is with the team and doing fine. This last week our punter was still injured, so we brought in our third punter of the season, the one who lost the competition in the pre-season. I am Paul Ernsters lease enthused supporter. You guys might get lucky with a 10 yard punt, but we’ll see.
by steelguy99 on Nov 6, 2008 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To add to the new punter part
Berger held on PATs and FGs. With his release, we will have a new holder to go with a new (his 2nd week) snapper. The snapper looked good last week, but for a combination that relies on timing, there is potential for a block or a miscue with our kicking game.
by _ET_ on Nov 7, 2008 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coaching
Are you satisfied with what Tomlin has been able to do? What coaches on your staff do the fans seem to want to be rid of?
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by BlueVol03 on Nov 6, 2008 8:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think defensively, we would be perfectly happy if we retained all of our current coaches, from Dick Lebeau to all of the position coaches, for the rest of their days.
The offense, and I think Blitz will agree with me, is a different story. Our OC has no clue how to call a game, and our O-Line coach, while suffering for the fact that our line is cobbled together from spare parts and cast-offs, is no great prize either.
Tomlin, in my esteemed opinion, is doing great. He presents the right image to the players, is intense, which is something we require from our coaches in Pittsburgh, and walsk a tightrope between being a Marvin Lewis-type players coach (too soft) and a Tom Coughlin-type drill instructor. I think he’s got the right mix of pressure and sympathy, but the most important thing is how he backs the players on the field. He sells out for them every week, and they feed off of the energy that he’s putting in.
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by BostonWahoo on Nov 6, 2008 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To answer from a generic steelers fans point of view:
A few people really like Tomlin, a few people really hate him, and most people are cautiously optimistic about future success and think he has potential. I’d say about 90% want to see him stick around.
As for our OC, I’d say about 1% of steelers fans want to see him stick around. That goes for the Oline coordinator too. Opinion is pretty much unanimous that these two must go. It is not simply the performance of their units, but the transparency of poor coaching on O-line and poor gameplanning of the coordinator.
by steelguy99 on Nov 6, 2008 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say it's more like 99% want to keep Tomlin
There’s always the lunatic fringe and most of their complaints are based around Tomlin not firing the OC or OL coach. Very few actually question his ability to coach or motivate.
by cgolden on Nov 6, 2008 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it depends on the game. After a loss the radio shows here in pgh are flooded with the fringe. Unfortunately the guys on the fringe tend to be the most vocal, and the goes both ways, but still. I think 99% is being overly bright-eyed about the love for tomlin.
by steelguy99 on Nov 6, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Bruce Arians isn’t the worst offensive coordinator in the league, I pity the team that employs the worst. He was bad last year, despite putting up average numbers, and he’s been an absolute piece of shit this year. Sorry for the language, but I don’t know how else to describe it. Larry Zierlein probably shouldn’t be blamed for the state of the OL (which has actually improved as the season has gone on), but it’s hard to say he’s doing a great job either. Basically it’s hard to say anyone is doing a good job coaching when the offense has a decent amount of talent and is as inept as it’s been.
On the defensive side of the ball, we’re pretty set, although there have been rumors that LeBeau could retire after his 50th season. Keith Bulter or John Mitchell, who are the LB and DL coaches, would probably take over for him if he did. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of those guys got snagged as a DC somewhere.
Tomlin is growing into his job. He didn’t look great last year, and he held onto Arians, which I was pretty upset about. However, the defense has made huge strides, particularly in the passing game, and even the special teams coverage has been vastly improved. I’m pretty sure Arians is getting fired at the end of the season regardless of what happens, and Tomlin’s choice of a replacement will make or break him as a coach in my mind.
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by BadMaafala on Nov 6, 2008 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree for the most part with other Steelers posters, but I guess I would be one of those on the Fringe in the area of LOVING Mike Tomlin. I would be hard pressed to think of a coach in the league I would rather have in charge for the forseable future. Tomlin seems to be a great motivator and is highley respected by players, his staff, and other coaches around the league.
It also appears that this team has actually bought into his way of thinking, week in and week out Tomlin expects the 52 men who suit up to play at a high level and to be ready to compete regardless of which professional football team we match up against this week.
I would agree that the majority of educated Steelers fans are ready to get rid of Bruce Arians and to a lesser extent Larry Zerlien the Offensive line coach. With solid skill position players and a average O-line we should be moving the ball much better than we currently are.
by frankrmineo on Nov 6, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I love the way Tomlin never makes excuses, even when we are down to our third and fourth string guys. He expects whoever is on the field to find a way to win and I think that has helped us with all of the injuries we’ve sustained this year.
by B&GinSLC on Nov 6, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Defensively
the Steelers look like the Steel cutain reincarnated from the Noll days. It seems to have very few or no weaknesses. If there were one area you would think that Peyton and Co. could exploit or at least have some success in what would it be?
by metal_militia on Nov 6, 2008 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The short passing game, especially from the spread, seems to be the only way to move the ball with success or regularity. If our linebackers have a shortcoming its in pass defense, and our corners don’t play the pass close enough to take away the short routes. But I wouldn’t call it a “weakness” as much as it would maybe be the weakest link in the chain.
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by BostonWahoo on Nov 6, 2008 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It really is tough to find a weakness with this defense. We lead the league in both longest running play (22y) and passing play (35y) given up. The biggest weaknesses I’ve noticed are covering RB’s and TE’s, and quick passes to the WR’s when the CB’s give big cushions. Last week was a classic example of the former: Cooley and Portis were the top 2 receivers. We can also be a little soft at times on intermediate routes. We are down a starting CB, so a guy like Gonzalez could test our depth.
However, I’m sure by now Indy fans are used to seeing different looks than usual from defenses, and that won’t change this week. Polamalu, Townsend, or Timmons may trail Clark and/or we may play a safe 2 deep thing the whole time, so some of those weaknesses may disappear while others appear. If we play Polamalu in man coverage, we could be a little more susceptible to the deep pass.
The thing I’m most sure about is that Addai could have a decent game catching the ball, since he’s probably not going to be a focal point for our defense. Him on Foote or probably even Farrior is a mismatch.
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by BadMaafala on Nov 6, 2008 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who is playing the slot?
FO has the Steelers Pass D was leaps and bounds better against 3rd and lower WRs than against 1/2s, TEs or RBs.
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by shake n bake on Nov 6, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
in these parts, QB’s have been know not to make it to their 3rd read… :)
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by BadMaafala on Nov 6, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry-I hit the enter button too soon.
What I meant to say:Who do yout hink is the better safty, Polamalu or Sanders? They both have Super Bowl rings, and have been sent to Pro Bowls, Troy more than Bob, but Bob has won DPOY, so it seems pretty even to me.
by FWColts on Nov 6, 2008 7:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think they're pretty similar but...
I’m trying really hard not to be a homer, but as objectively as I can see it, Polamalu is the best safety in the league right now. This year, I’ve seen him throw a TE into the RB, dive under a FB and tackle the RB, fly into the flat to destroy screens and dumpoffs, fly across field to deflect several deep balls, and be relatively successful in man-to-man coverage against Kellen Winslow for most the the night.
A lot of safeties accel in coverage, but aren’t huge in the running game (e.g. Ed Reed), while others accel in stopping the running game and get by in coverage (e.g. Adrian Wilson). I really think that right now, Troy is exceptional in both roles, and I can’t think of another safety that has a more complete skill set. Obviously I’ve watched more of him than of other safeties, though.
I like Sanders a lot (went to a rival school in Erie), and he was definitely the better player last year. Troy was fighting through injuries in 2006 and 2007 and when he’s at 70-80%, he can be a liabilty. Both guys have had a lot of troubles with injuries, but whenever they’re healthy, they’re close to the top of the league. I think Troy has a great shot at DPOY this year although he’ll have to beat out a slew of current and former Steelers’ LB’s for the honor.
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by BadMaafala on Nov 7, 2008 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How will Wille Parker being out affect your running game and, with Big Ben iffy and Leftwich, well, Leftwich, your offense as a whole?
Is Mewelde Moore going to go for 130 yards and two TDs? (Say no!)
by eltharion_doa on Nov 7, 2008 5:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Moore has played exceptionally well when given the chance, but our idiot OC doesn’t run as much with him in there. I’d say he’s certainly capable of running for those numbers; as a starter this season, he’s averaged 101 yards and a td per game with 5.4ypc against Jacksonville, Cinci, and the Giants. He’s a bigger threat than Parker out of the backfield as well, not that we ever pass to our backs.
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by BadMaafala on Nov 7, 2008 10:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not convinced willie parker will be out, by the way. It’s friday and we’ll see how practice goes today, but I don’t think he’s officially been listed anywhere and from what I have read he wants to play. You find any reports BM besides espn sportscenter?
by steelguy99 on Nov 7, 2008 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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