Recap Week Thirteen: Colts 10-Browns 6
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18 to 88 says something that I've heard mumbled for the last few weeks by many in the media:
Ultimately, the Colts are still and average team on the field that has some kind of special 'it quality'.
I've been pretty clear that I disagree with this assessment. "Average" teams do not walk into Pittsburgh, Minnesota, or San Deigo and beat those clubs. "Average" teams play hot and cold, losing to teams they shouldn't and beating teams they shouldn't due to fluke plays, bad officiating, or just dumb luck. Not to bash them or anything (because they have done some good things this year), but right now the Bears are a pretty "average" team. They are 6-6, having just lost to the Vikings in Minnesota. Again, with a skeleton crew of a team and a one-legged Peyton Manning, the Colts went into the Vikings fjord and came away with a win.
"Average" teams don't do that.
This is a very good football team that is starting to play as they should. Right now, this team is one of the best in football. Don't agree? Fine. Show me another team this year that has won five games in a row. The Giants and Titans come to mind. Last I checked, those were really good teams. Not "average" ones.
Against the Browns Sunday, the Colts offense slipped and slogged their way through a mistake-riddled game. From the first play (a Joseph Addai fumble), you knew this game was going to be a slog fest. Not a slug fest. Slog fest. Tack on a couple of Peyton Manning INTs, a dropped pass in the endzone by Reggie Wayne, and some awful short yardage blocking, and a game the Colts should have dominated turns into a boring, early-afternoon snore.
Then, the Colts defense showed up.
Despite three turnovers by the Colts offense in the first half, the Browns had only 6 points. Jamal Lewis and the Browns running game was held in check, and the Colts pass rush had Romeo Crennel coaching the game scared. But in the fourth quarter, when the Colts needed either their special teams or their defense to bail out the offense, Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis came to the rescue. If one of these guys does not make the Pro Bowl, and some Roy Williams-like schmuck does, I might take hostages.
At about the 10 minute mark in the 4th quarter, Derek Anderson dropped back to complete a 3rd and long. Dwight Freeney bull rushed arguably the best LT in football (Joe Thomas) and stripped the ball from Anderson. Robert Mathis found the fumble, scooped it up, and ran 37 yards for a TD. After the extra point: Colts 10-Browns 6.
Game. Set. Match.
All game, the Browns played keep away. Their defense was a soft, Cover-2 shell that gave up everything underneath and allowed nothing deep. They generated zero pass rush and were not entirely stellar stopping the run (though, in the end the numbers looked good). On offense, it was run, run, pass. Nothing fancy. Nothing that took more than 3 steps to execute. It was the type of game plan that if they gave up the lead, especially a TD, they were done. When Mathis waltzed into the endzone, it seems Romeo Crennel took a walrus-sized dumb in his extra large sweat pants.
With the Colts special teams coverage units containing Josh Cribbs, Crennel knew he had to let Anderson throw the ball. The results were not good. With less than a minute to go on 2nd down, Anderson was sacked by Robert Mathis, who copied Freeney by bull rushing the RT this time. He knocked the tackle into Anderson, which resulted in a sack. Anderson injured his MCL on the play, and sadly his season is over. Back-up Ken Dorsey came in and promptly threw a pick to Antoine Bethea (keeping with the Melvin Bullitt and Bob Sanders tradition of safeties coming up with big INTs to win games this year).
Make no mistake, this was the kind of game I wanted to see from this defense. Despite injuries to Gary Brackett, Freddie Keiaho, Tyjuan Hagler, and playing yet another game without Bob Sanders, the Colts held Cleveland to zero TDs, an average gain of 3 yards per offensive play, 3.2 yards per rush, 64 net yards passing, and generated two HUGE turnovers. Some unsung heroes also emerged, such as DT Antonio Johnson (6 tackles) and DE Josh Thomas (several tough tackles on rushing downs). Announcer Randy Cross said it best: The Colts are the best tackling team in football, and they get after the ball carrier. For all the grief this defense has endured from us fans, the fact of the matter is they have allowed only 4 passing TDs all season thus far.
4.
1, 2, 3, 4.
That is un-freakin-believably-good.
The modern NFL is a passing league, folks. If you can't throw, you suck and will lose a lot of games. If you can't stop the throw by pressuring the QB, you suck and will lose a lot of games. No need to look at Football Outsiders stats to know that. And despite continuing injuries, Ed Johnson smoking his blunts, Quinn Pitcock quitting, and the John McCargo fiasco, this team has managed to play dominate football.
"Average" teams do not allow only 4 passing TDs through 12 weeks.
We don't know what this season will bring. We don't know how the AFC playoff picture will shake out, or even if the Colts will make the playoffs. Yes, they are in the driver's seat and should make them, but take nothing for granted here, people. This team is accomplishing very special things this year. They are tough as nails and do not quit, and they can beat anyone, anywhere, in a variety of ways. This was a tough win against a team that has played our Colts tough historically. Hopefully, now some Cleveland Browns fans can now let go of the silly anger they have for Tony Dungy. The Browns have had some tough breaks this year, but they have good, young players to build themselves around (Thomas, Quinn, Cribbs, etc.).For more on the Browns, please check out Chris and the dogs at Dawgs By Nature.
With this win, the Colts have guaranteed their seventh consecutive non-losing season. As Jim Mora (the last coach to coach these Colts to a losing season) says, Never take winning for granted. This Colts team is starting to find themselves, and we should start noticing that they are far, far better than "average."
Go Colts!
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actually average teams do beat san diego
everybody beats san diego ha
by zkmavz on Dec 1, 2008 12:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
But average teams
dont beat the Steelers.
by metal_militia on Dec 1, 2008 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Average?
Shake,
Nicely said. Perhaps “flawed” is more accurate than average—of course right now, who isn’t? Probably just the NYG.
And you know what, calling them “above average” is what’s known as damned by faint praise. Accurate, but it sounds so… condescending.
Still, I’m waiting for another Baltimorean game when they manage to put it all together—hopefully a few in the playoffs.
And what happens when the win streak hits 8 games? Not many average teams manage that.
Bobman
by Bobman on Dec 1, 2008 1:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let’s get to 6 before we start counting those chickens.
Some idiot on Yahoo! was saying how Joe Flacco is playing better than Manning right now. So fair enough, Peyton had a weak effort this time around and Flacco beat up on the Bengals (no, really. The Bengals.)…but seriously?
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by eltharion_doa on Dec 1, 2008 2:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
actually ...
for a rookie QB and a new head coach, Flacco is playing pretty doggone well … we tore him apart, but since that game he has put up some good games, to his advantage he has an amazing D to support him, but still he has put up nice numbers for a rookie QB on a team with no real offensive superstars … I’m not comparing him to Manning, but I’m saying yeah … give the guy some credit here
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by ClarkFan44 on Dec 1, 2008 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And average teams ...
don’t turn the ball over 4 times and score zero touchdowns … i understand it was one game … and the Colts are on a great run … but they will have to play a lot better than this to compete with teams not named the Browns …
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by ClarkFan44 on Dec 1, 2008 9:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
bounce
Let’s be honest here, after the stretch of games they had just played.. .including going to the West coast and in pittsburgh. They were due for a bit of a let down. And the browns defense are still the better part of their team. And yet the colts still managed a win.
Let’s be honest. The colts are still a team everyone wants to beat. They play harder against us than probably a lot of other opponents, yet we still grind out wins.
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by bluegirl on Dec 1, 2008 10:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am
glad to see Big Mookie doing well for you guys, he is fun to watch.
by RhiNo6705 on Dec 1, 2008 10:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Winning close
The Colts have eeked out 5 straight games. The way Shoe describes average teams is EXACTLY the way the Colts have played…only they’ve made the one extra play to pull out the games. Which is why I said they have an “It quality”.
“Average” teams play hot and cold, losing to teams they shouldn’t and beating teams they shouldn’t due to fluke plays, bad officiating, or just dumb luck".
Let’s see…hot and cold. Check. Losing to teams they shouldn’t? They almost did yesterday. They almost lost to Houston. Fluke plays, bad officiating, just dumb luck? We’ve seen our share of all of them.
Indy is an average team that has three players that are elevating this team just enough to beat Cleveland and not lose to them. 18, 93, and 98 seem to always make one or two plays to pull the game out of the fire. Indy’s points for and points against (the single best predictor of future performance) is stuck just a smidge above even. That indicates that this is an average team that has the will (I don’t think it is luck) to win close games.
They probably ought to be 6-6 or 7-5 at best.
Without Sanders, Saturday, Brackett, and Jackson, this is NOT a great team. It has a great coach, the greatest QB, and two DEs with a will of iron. It has a ton of holes. Don’t be fooled by the wins. There are fundamental problems that might get resolved when guys come back, but with any more injuries the floor is coming out from under this team. Sugar coating things doesn’t do anyone any favors.
The 2008 Colts are an average team that just has some undefinable special spark. Don’t confuse a string of miracle games won on one or two great plays with greatness.
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by deshawn zombie on Dec 1, 2008 10:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dead on ...
Well said Mr. Zombie … could not have said it any better myself, and it’s really what i was tyring to say earlier … this is a team with the potential and talent to be an absolute stellar team, but right now is playing like an average team that happens to have the best clutch QB in the entire game and two DE’s who have a knack for the big play … throw in safeties with a nose for the football at the end of the game, and you’ve got five straight wins.
I’m not knocking the Colts at all, i love them watching them play and harbor a love that is close to obsession, but all of the stats – minus the 8-4 record – point to an average team ….
At the same time, I saw this team smoke Baltimore, out play New England and beat Pittsburgh on the road … but they will have to play like that, and even better, to go anywhere in the post-season … a game like yesterday’s will not cut it … and i agree, sugar coating a 10-6 win is not really covering the truth that we still need to improve greatly
With that said, a win is a win …. here’s to another victory ,and who knows, maybe even a Roy Hall sighting on the way to 6 game win streak !!
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by ClarkFan44 on Dec 1, 2008 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Winning close is no different than winning big
Winning close produces the exact same result as winning big: a “W.” This is the NFL, not the BCS.
Losing to teams they shouldn’t? They almost did yesterday.
But they didn’t. It was also their fifth win in a row.
Indy is an average team that has three players that are elevating this team just enough to beat Cleveland and not lose to them. 18, 93, and 98 seem to always make one or two plays to pull the game out of the fire.
Sorry, but Adam Vinatieri, Gary Brackett, Reggie Wayne, Anthony Gonzalez, Jeff Saturday, Antoine Bethea, and Joseph Addai are not “average” players. They are great players who have made as many great plays to win games this year as 18, 93, and 98.
There are fundamental problems that might get resolved when guys come back, but with any more injuries the floor is coming out from under this team. Sugar coating things doesn’t do anyone any favors.
Everyone in this league has “fundamental flaws.” The 11-1 team in the AFC has obvious flaws. Even the teams that seemingly look perfect should remember that last year’s “perfect” team got pounded to dust in the Super Bowl. Everyone has something wrong with them. The SB winner will be the team that overcomes their weaknesses to play championship-caliber football when it counts.
Don’t confuse a string of miracle games won on one or two great plays with greatness.
I’m sorry, but WHAT! A “string” of miracle games. Winning two or three games by a hair is a “string.” When you win 5 in a row, beating teams like the Steelers and Patriots along the way, that is not a “string of miracle games.” That is your team proving they are good. Lucky teams win two or three in a row, with a good road win sprinkled in there for good measure. Good teams win 5 in a row, with multiple quality wins in the mix.
I don’t need to “sugar coat” anything. After winning 5 in a row and getting to 8-4, the Colts have proven they are good. Not “average.” Talk to the contrary is simple and utter nonsense.
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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 1, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
The Colts have had close games that could have possibly gone either way. But, with Peyton in command of the Colts, they will never be just ‘average’.
by Ayrshire on Dec 1, 2008 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh ...
Ayrshire you cut to the core of me … your words are so true my friend, so true
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by ClarkFan44 on Dec 1, 2008 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I might be wrong ...
But i don’t think he was arguing that this team has many great, pro bowl caliber players …
I for one, certainly believe that they do, but he has a very valid point that Manning, Freeney and Mathis have come up with some very big plays this year …
Mad props to Sir Reggie Wayne, your man crush Adam Vinatieri, and Gonzo, but in all fairness without Manning … none of these players would have a true chance to be great themselves …
But i can’t really say anything about Saturday, he is the man, and his return will be instrumental to any success we have in the post season … he anchors the line and is an important piece to the Colts machine … hope he heals quickly
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by ClarkFan44 on Dec 1, 2008 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What exactly are the Colts good at?
The Colts are on one of the oddest runs in NFL history. This is the third team in history to win 5 straight games by less than 6 points. One won the Superbowl. The other was one of the worst 9-7 teams in history. I never said the Colts were lucky. I said they were average but with a dash of something special. They Colts are playing like an average team in every area but they keep winning. There isn’t any way to explain it, but just chalking it up to being good is naive.
Statistically, the Colts aren’t good at much of anything. The offense isn’t good at all really. They are 21st in total offense. The defense isn’t good. They are 15th. In PPG the O is 22nd, the D is 11th. The only things the Colts do well is not allow TD passes or sacks.
Gary Brackett wasn’t on the field yesterday. Reggie Wayne has been very average (I’m not sure his ankle is right) for weeks now. Joe Addai has below average rushing numbers. It’s fine to say that they are great players, but injuries have limited their production. I’m not saying the Colts aren’t talented. They are, but this isn’t about talent, it’s about production, and as a team it isn’t there.
You say the Colts are good…prove it. What are they good at? If they are a good team, there should be some evidence of it beyond the record. What is it that they do well on the field on a regular consistent basis? They convert third downs at the best rate in the league because they have 18. That’s also been shown to be a recipie for disaster statistically speaking.
They win games they shouldn’t win. One of two things will happen…1. they get players back and improve and make a run. 2. they don’t and they return to their level.
No, this isn’t the BCS and style points don’t matter. There is such a thing as predictive stats though. They aren’t in the Colts favor. Stats aren’t everything, but they are something. All the signs point to this being a very average team that has a special unquantifiable component.
In football you are what you are. The Colts are 8-4 which is excellent. There is one level on which that’s all that matters, sure. But when it comes to trying to figure out which teams are truly sound and which ones aren’t, more analysis is warrented. When healthy, I think this team could be elite still. As it is, it’s a team that just waiting to get waxed in the playoffs. If everyone comes back, I’ll feel good about things, but the group that was on the field in Cleveland was an average crew. I don’t see how that’s even open for debate.
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by deshawn zombie on Dec 1, 2008 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What exactly are the Colts good at?
Answer: Winning.
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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 1, 2008 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
The only thing that proves you good is your record. That is it. Great stats and impressive DVOAs mean nothing if your record is “average.” The proof the Colts are good right now is they are 8-4 and winners of 5 in a row.
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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 1, 2008 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be dense.
What’s the difference between saying they are only good at winning and saying what I said?
“Ultimately, the Colts are still an average team on the field that has some kind of special ‘it quality’.”
IE…they just win games. I never said they were lucky, like somehow they didn’t deserve to win these games. Just that they win more than their play suggests they should and that is due to a weird combination of great coaching and a couple of special men making amazing plays at just the perfect moments. This ‘it’ quality is real. It’s not luck. But it can’t be measured or quantified statistically.
If that’s your whole argument, then you have no business calling me out.
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by deshawn zombie on Dec 1, 2008 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and by the way...
Here’s the rest of the original quote:
“Ultimately, the Colts are still an average team on the field that has some kind of special ‘it quality’. Every week either Manning saves us, or Mathis/Freeney does. Those three players are operating at an other-wordly level that seems to make the difference in close games. This team is 8-4, but won’t truly roll until it gets Saturday and Sanders back. On top of that, now we have worry about Brackett and Dawson. Fun.”
I don’t think the Colts are truly rolling. The can get better. A hellauvalot better. But only if they get guys back on the field.
Again, I don’t see that anything in that statement is really all that controversial.
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by deshawn zombie on Dec 1, 2008 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they're a great team...
… playing “averagely,” but still winning.
Whatever it is, I hope they keep up the Ws and improve their play to do it. I don’t like this 10-6 business when the team is supposedly “made” to build huge leads and force the opponent into passing situations. The grind-it-out-on-the-ground game is so 70s.
I think we can argue “average” be it team production, individual execution, or W-L record at the end of the year. Let’s hope that end doesn’t come for us until Feb 1st with one of the Colts holding the Lombardi Trophy high above his head!
by LovinBlue on Dec 1, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This we can agree on
They haven’t truly been rolling, consistently. The Baltimore game is the closest we’ve seen to them playing to their potential.
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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 1, 2008 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Calling out
I only call you out so people will hit your site. ;)
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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 1, 2008 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They are #1 in the league in Red Zone TD Efficiency
Yesterday not withstanding, they are fantastic at scoring TDs inside the red zone, rather than settling for FG, or not scoring at all.
Only 3 times out of 34 trips have resulted in no points, including yesterday. 23 TDs, 8 FGs.
by mgrex03 on Dec 1, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The last time they were #1 in red zone eff
was 2006, I believe.
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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 1, 2008 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Any prognosis
On Brackett’s injury?
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by MrNFL on Dec 1, 2008 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just curious
I was only able to see part of the game (basically the 2nd half), and even then it was only from a distance (back table at the bar). Because I was in the Raiders clubhouse, I wasn’t really in a position to scream and yell in either agony or joy, and I couldn’t see some of the nuances of the game. Sometimes the only way I could tell that the ball had advanced was by the camera angle, or expressions on players’ faces, or by finally seeing the down count.
So my question is this – what happened to the offense? I gather that there were mistakes (Addai’s fumble, a couple of interceptions), but were these weather related? just poor execution? or — gulp — injury-induced? Were Manning’s passes fluttering like they had in early games?
Sounds like our D stepped up all day long, and the Browns’ point total confirms that story. I am sorry that Anderson’s season is done – I’m sure the cries of “dirty hit” will hail down upon us soon enough…
by LovinBlue on Dec 1, 2008 11:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
First of all
congrats to the Colts for a win. It’s great to have five in a row. I know there could have been more offensive points if not for Joe’s fumble, Reggie not holding onto the TD pass, Peyton’s interception and goal line fumble, etc. So, overall, good job to pull out a win considering all that. But, I’m still disappointed that the Colts only rush 3 people play after play. Mathis and Freeney do an admirable job, but is a blitz once and a while too much to ask? I still keep thinking the Colts need to get more pressure on the opposing QBs and pass-rushing 3 guys is not enough to usually make that happen…..anyone else agree with this?
by Ayrshire on Dec 1, 2008 11:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A blitz wasn't neccessary
The Browns averaged less than 3 yards a pass. The Colts had three sacks.
Why on earthy would they have wanted to blitz? What would that have accomplished?
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by deshawn zombie on Dec 1, 2008 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not so much in that game
but in general, I’d like to see more than three guys rush the QB. From my perspective, it seems opposing QB’s have had way too much time to throw this season.
by Ayrshire on Dec 1, 2008 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree ...
I don’t think blitzing in this game does much good, but i would agree, with you Ayrshire, to the point in other games it would have been nice to seen some blitzes mixed in …
i think we definitely need to pressure the quarterback more … it is apparent what we can let a QB do if we don’t pressure him … (see: Billy Volek, 2007 playoffs) … i know that was mainly due to Freeney’s absence, but still, it would be nice to see some different blitz schemes
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by ClarkFan44 on Dec 1, 2008 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Colts have blitzed
Against San Diego, Pittsburgh, Houston, and New England the Colts blitzed with greater regularity than normal. The big pick by Jennings in the Pitt game was forced on a blitz. They just didn’t blitz yesterday because there was no point.
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by deshawn zombie on Dec 1, 2008 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
You don’t need to blitz when you are killing thme with just 4 d-linemen.
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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 1, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is exactly what
A cover 2 defense is supposed to do… get pressure with your front four.
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by bluegirl on Dec 1, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess ....
I remember us blitzing more in the Pittsburgh and SD game (i missed the last houston one) and i know the purpose and functions of a cover 2 … But, just throwing it out there, it would be nice to see some different blitzes mixed in besides the front four … some outside LB blitzes or maybe a CB blitz … just to mix it up, keep offenses guessing and try and create some more big plays
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by ClarkFan44 on Dec 1, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a freaky game
I’m grateful for the win, but just once this season I’d like to kick-back and enjoy the game. As opposed to having panic attacks, that is.
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by peytonsthebest on Dec 1, 2008 11:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i agree
Another game like baltimore would be nice. and with cincy and detroit at home the next two weeks we hopefully should get at least one. (and I will be away next week and won’t be able to watch the game which always seems to result in a blowout….)
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by bluegirl on Dec 1, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are still picking against us, aren't you? :D
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by peytonsthebest on Dec 1, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT ARE THE COLTS GOOD AT?
DZ,
The offense, by most traditional measures, is below average. At FO they are probably top-third (not too special but still above average) and in terms of 3rd down and red zone conversions, they are at or near the top of the league. Those two state are more important than yards, IMO. (the NFL’s traditional measurement of ranking)
The D gives up too many 3rd down conversions (the ugly flip side) but makes the opponents work for the scores (a high yards against-to-points against ratio). This works okay IF the O can manage the clock either fast or slow and can quick-strike when needed (i.e. if the D gives up the lead with 7 minutes to go the O can use up most of that time to score the same as it can use up 90 seconds to score like at SD). So far, mischief managed, as the Weasley twins would say. Our O, while statistically lagging, is good right where our D’s deficiencies need it to be. Thank you for your middle son, Archie and Olivia.
Anyone can invent a team that goes 16-0 and still has mundane traditional stats. The easiest way would be to have mundane O and D stats except for a crazy TO ratio of +5 every game. Or killer field position due to ROBO-kicker and ROBO-punter. (and likewise, an 0-16 team with good stats). Our standard stats are middling, but the more refined FO stats put us in the top 1/3 (which is better than average), and I bet the Aikmans (if he still does them) do as well.
In fact, our improved ST stats might be making up for much of the slumping O—other teams are now starting 5-10 yards farther back on average than they did the past few years with no killer returns, and we are starting (I am hypothesizing here) 5 yards farther up—that’s a delta of 15 yards per pair of possessions (one for each team) meaning our O and D have to be a combined 15 yards less productive than last year to still be as successful. Since we’re 8-4 and not 10-2 at this piont, maybe we’re being 20 yards less productive, but the ST improvements are mostly making up for it. (I only bring up ST because (1) they ARE improved, both coverage and AV’s kick distance, and (2) usually when one looks at stats, one does not look at field position stats for one’s team and the opponents.
Our crazy low fumble total has really helped us—fortuitously it is not a matter of many fumbles that get recovered by us (as FO would say is a matter of luck) but very few fumbles at all, which is more a matter of discipline and skill.
hoo-boy, way too long. sorry.
Bobman
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