"The Colts’ secondary is one of the best in the NFL when Marlin Jackson and Kelvin Hayden are h...

"The Colts’ secondary is one of the best in the NFL when Marlin Jackson and Kelvin Hayden are healthy. They are two of the best corners in the league. Even without Jackson, they have been OK. Tim Jennings has been solid. Getting Hayden back against San Diego was a big boost."

PFW's The Way We Hear It section, which quotes "league sources" anonymously. The Colts pass defense has allowed only 4 passing TDs all season thus far and snatched 17 INTs.

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How many rushing TDs have we allowed?

It was pointed out to me “why pass into the end zone when you can run?”

I don’t know the stat. Please give me some ammo. :)

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Dec 10, 2008 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Can't be too many since the Colts are 8th in scoring D

Shonn Greene for Heisman
Big Ten's leading Rusher
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Dec 10, 2008 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

15

None since the Texans game. (3 weeks)

Stupid Chargers had 2 passing TDs against us.

by mgrex03 on Dec 10, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

3 way tie for 8th in the league

so they aren’t terrible against the run on the goaline, but running is definitely the way to do it.

Shonn Greene for Heisman
Big Ten's leading Rusher
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Dec 10, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Colts have allowed 15 rushing TDs. For comparison’s sake, the titans have allowed 12. The Eagles, who many think have a good defense, especially against the pass, have allowed 19 passing TDs. The Bucs have allowed 15 passing TDs and 5 rushing TDs.

The Colts have the #8 scoring defense in football. And the whole "why pass into the end zone when you can run?" argument is crap. total crap. If you cannot pass in this league, you will not win. TDs are scored via the passing game.

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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 10, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks!

I thought it was crap but elected to remain silent until I could back it up.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Dec 10, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The pass to the full back in the flat

is gonna come back to bite the colts in the ass if they don’t start defending it better, though…

by Nideak on Dec 10, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"TDs are scored via the passing game."

What? That’s true… unless it isn’t: the Titans have 22 TDs on the ground and 8 in the air, yet rank 7th in points this year… thereby confirming my suspicion that touchdowns are scored by crossing the goal line.

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Dec 10, 2008 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

hmm

Maybe because your QB is Kerry Collins and your receivers are headlined by a Bears washout.

Only 6 teams have more rushing TDs than passing TDs

FAIL

Shonn Greene for Heisman
Big Ten's leading Rusher
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Dec 10, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kinda makes you think...

I wonder how VY would have done throwing the ball in the end zone…oh yeah, he wasn’t really a passer, was he? heh heh heh heh

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Dec 10, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I miss VY

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Dec 10, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I never said our passing game was good

just that there’s more than one way to skin a cat…

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Dec 10, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

but most teams do it the same way for a reason

if you guys want to keep skinning your cats using a rusty spoon go ahead. We’ll stick to a knife.

/taking metaphors to far.

Shonn Greene for Heisman
Big Ten's leading Rusher
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Dec 10, 2008 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Titans

The Titans have played one of the softest schedules in the league this year. So, it does not surprise me in the least that 22 of of their TDs are via the ground. And, as shake n bake said, this is a passing league. If you can’t score points in your passing game, you will lose.

So, if the Titans don’t score TDs throwing the ball in the playoffs, they will lose early.

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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 10, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ughh.

I’ll take TDs anyway I can get ‘em. All the passing TDs in the world have only gotten Peyton as many rings as Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson got, so we’ll line ’em up and see what happens.

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Dec 10, 2008 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Nice subtle insult to all the great QB’s who have 1 or less.

by KingRichard on Dec 10, 2008 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Honestly

I didn’t mean to insult anyone at all, I’m just saying that the idea that there’s only one way to win consistently is misguided.

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Dec 10, 2008 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Makes a little more sense to say that as opposed to insulting Manning now doesn’t it?

by KingRichard on Dec 10, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And obviously

since you have no facts or stats to back up your argument, we’ll assume you don’t know what you are talking about.

and please, that was a pathetic back out. He did intend to insult Manning. It was obvious. Be a man and stand by your statements, or get to the back of the line.

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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 10, 2008 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It wasn't a back-out, asshole.

Don’t get all pissy just because you’re too blind to see the point I was making: whether you run or pass, when you pass all that matters is having more points at the end of the game.

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Dec 10, 2008 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

/fixed

Don’t get all pissy just because you’re too blind to see the point I was making: whether you run or pass, ~~when you pass~~ all that matters is having more points at the end of the game.

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Dec 10, 2008 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what does your sig mean?

is it what happens when the give the ball to Lendale twice in a row?

Shonn Greene for Heisman
Big Ten's leading Rusher
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Dec 10, 2008 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

lol.

nah, if that was the case then it would end with touchdown!

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Dec 10, 2008 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

August, you backed off like a wuss

And again, the object of the game is to score points. Preferably, more than the opponent. Your point was nothing, and what little was there was smashed to nothing.

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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 10, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL, What?

Listen, I know you’re a Titans fan, but my comment has less to do with Peyton Manning and more to do with league trends. This IS a passing league. Teams win passing the football. Of the 878 total offensive TDs scored this season, 512 were via the passing game. Every team that has won the Super Bowl since 2003 has had a big league QB with a dynamic passing game at the helm.

And please, don’t try and pathetically back out of your OBVIOUS insult to Peyton Manning. Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are trivia question answers. We all notice that you didn’t say “as many Super Bowls as Steve Young.”

If you are going to come here and try and articulate an opinion, all we ask is that it be an informed opinion. The modern Colts are one of the greatest franchises in the salary cap era. Your club is not even in the same stratosphere when it comes to wins and loses, let alone the same sentence. So really, there is nothing to “line up.”

Geez, these Titans fans have one decent season, which hasn’t resulted in any playoff wins thus far, and they are talking as if they know what winning playoff football is all about. Honestly.

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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 10, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Please

We’ve seen our teams go to just as many Super Bowls and pretty much the same amount of AFC championships over the past 10 years. Don’t resort to that crap even if it is the level you seem to dwell on.

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Dec 10, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dude, seriously

The last ten years, the Colts have made the playoffs nine times. They’ve won nine or more games a year nine of ten years. They’ve won five AFC south Division titles and 1 AFC East division title.

Simply dismissing all that and suggesting it is nothing and only selecting certain criteria as “important” (such as Super bowl appearances and AFC Championship game appearances) really makes you look like a jerk who can see beyond his own big, fat head.

Look, no offense, but your team is no where close to ours. No one, and I literally mean no one, puts the Titans in the same class as the Colts the last ten years. If you do, then fine. Good luck convincing people the sky is green while you are at it.

Listen, if you can’t accept the plain, simple, totally OMG-its-so-obvious-it-is-growing-hair fact that the Colts are leaps and bounds better (as a franchise) over the Titans the last ten years, then you are a delusional and there is no point chatting with you further.

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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 10, 2008 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Is anything said in the above statement wrong?

I never said we’re equal in regular season wins, but don’t act like our performance over the past decade has been chopped liver.

Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.

by August West on Dec 10, 2008 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"..thereby confirming my suspicion that touchdowns are scored by crossing the goal line."

Lol! I’m sorry to everyone else who is offended by this, but that was a great answer. And funny too.

by coltsfanawalt on Dec 10, 2008 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You've entered

some frightening territory here! :)

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Dec 10, 2008 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

so do we re-sign Hayden?

he is a free agent next year and I think we have to. marlin and antonie aren’t FA’s until 2010. given the uncertainty of Marlin’s recovery from surgery, I think we are going to have to (depending on how much hayden wants), which i think is the right move. At least Marlin isn’t a FA next year, because he probably wouldn’t be back with us due to the injury uncertainty.

by Matic on Dec 10, 2008 1:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

my gut says no. The colts aren’t the Bears or the Bucs, they rarely pay a CB… I actually think both Marlin and Kelvin are gone in 2 years. They are big, physical, and can tackle well. They are going to be hot items on the FA market, and the Colts’ will choose not to match (they’ll be able to afford atleast one of them, imo, but that goes against their MO)

by Nideak on Dec 10, 2008 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hayden

Kelvin Hayden will be re-signed. Write it down.

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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 10, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Seconded

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Marlin go after next year, but I think they keep Kelvin. I think a good argument can be made that Kelvin is the 3rd most important player on this D (Freeney and Bob in top two spots).

by ctnyc on Dec 10, 2008 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs