when Warner was sucking it up and i said, ’Don’t worry, Warner will through enough picks and give up enough fumbles to give Minnie a 50 point lead, but then Superman will throw for 500 yards and 7 TDs and lose by 1 and everyone will read the box score and just scream about how great he is.

Kurt Warner IS the MVP of the league. For Arizona’s opponents. Like I told the Arizona blogger that came here and tried to tell me what Arizona would be without Warner: Kurt has averaged 2 sacks and 2 turnovers in games against teams with winning records. WOW. AMAZING.

The MVP of the Arizona team is their division.

I think we should nominate the Detroit Lions as MVP. They’ve single handedly given out 14 wins, and possibly 16, to the rest of the NFL. As we all know, wins are the most important thing in the NFL. Therefore, the Detroit Lions are the NFL’s MVP.

In my mind he could be considered the MVP of the team. He’s got two games left and if they both end up being meaningful the guy could easily rush for 1800 yards this year and has carried the Vikings for much of the season as their QB situation has been very iffy all year. I like Peyton but 23 TD’s and 12 picks isn’t really that impressive. He’s 10th in QB rating, 6th in TDs, 7th in completion %, 4th in Yards, 16th in yards per pass. I’m just trying to point out that his #‘s alone aren’t entirely impressive. I do realize from watching many of his games that he is a viable MVP candidate as he has carried the team but to think it’s over is a bit of a homer take. This does seem to be a bit of a down year for MVP candidates in that no one has truly separated themselves from the pack like Tom Brady last year and Peyton in 2004. I think the race is still very much open and depending on how the last two weeks go I could see someone like Adrian Peterson, Pennington, even the hated Kurt Warner make a push and win over the AP’s hearts. So it’s not as cut and dry as you’d like to think IMHO. However, time will tell.

4. Manning, Colts hitting stride
In case you haven’t noticed, Peyton Manning is getting hot as the weather gets cold. In Sunday’s 31-21 victory over the Lions, Manning completed 28 of 37 passes for 318 yards. Over the past four games, he’s completed 75.3 percent of his passes. The Colts, meanwhile, have won seven in a row and appear to be heading toward the fifth seed in the AFC playoffs. Slowly, Manning is gaining momentum in the MVP race, but he’s competing against Kurt Warner, Adrian Peterson, Drew Brees and others.

There is an interesting dynamic working for Manning and the Colts that has slipped under the radar. Manning needed only nine offensive possessions to score 31 points against the Lions. If you are wondering why the Colts’ offense isn’t posting big numbers, it’s because of Manning’s efficiency. In 14 games, Manning has had a league-low 134 drives. He’s converted 36 for touchdowns, meaning he’s orchestrating a touchdown drive on one of every four possessions. He’s sacrificing stats to keep his defense rested.

Manning is also doing a lot of his work without the running game. Joseph Addai was out Sunday because of a shoulder injury. Dominic Rhodes chipped in with 86 yards, but the Colts are among the worst rushing teams in football. Manning is tuning up his offense, getting it ready for the playoffs. Watch out.

I’ll say it again – I would rather the Colts win the SB over some regular season award, but what has chaffed my willie is the people that vote for the award don’t get it. Watch Warner play, just ONE TIME. Stop looking at box stats. Warner and Brees have stats, but they’ve been costing their team games. I’m tired of hearing about Brees and Warner’s D, when they continue to make ridiculous turnovers at key moments in the game.

I hate awards like the “MVP” and the Heisman because they are absurdly QB and RB biased, and never truly go to the best player in most seasons.

This is another one of those years where no one stands out, but a QB will win it for being a QB. I’d love to see it go to someone like James Harrison, Ed Reed, or DeMarcus Ware, who have meant more to their teams’ success than any QB.

why not let Manning split it with Steve McNair.

I swear, they’d rather give it to anyone OTHER than Peyton.

Not sure why this guy isn’t getting any love. They’re a game away from clinching the top spot in the NFC. You’re gonna tell me that if he drops 150 and 2 TD on the Giants that he isn’t worthy? He bests Peterson in every offensive category with the exception of yards….given that AP has near 100 more carries than him.

As for Manning, he’s overcome some adversity this year to get the Colts “Wildcard worthy”….so what? Since beating New England & Pittsburgh, they’ve beaten, in order:

Houston, San Diego, Cleveland, Cinci, Detroit & Jacksonville. Those last 4 are HORRID teams. Why the Colts even struggled vs. Jacksonville is beyond me.

I can’t believe what i’m reading. First off, a qb’s fumbles are most of the time not his fault, that all has to do with the d-linemen reaching him as he’s about to throw. Next, Runningbacks and players of other positions shouldn’t win the mvp becuase they play less important positions. A runningback will never average as many yards per attempt as a quarterback, and other positions are even more insignificant. Remember (Mr. NFL) that mvp stands for most valuable player, NOT most talented- Quarterbacks make a bigger impact so they are more valuable most of the time. Oh, and one more thing, the more sacs a qb has, the better they are (Big Blue Shoe), becuase it means he has less time to throw the ball, and it’s pretty obvious that the qbs that are best at avoiding getting sacked aren’t the one’s with the least sacs (you’d have a better case saying that the more sacs you have the better you are at avoiding getting sacked, seeing as the top four in the sac category are cassel, Rothlesberger, garrard and Cambell) so saying Brees is better for only having eight sacs is just dumb. Oh, and who are my top three mvp candidates you ask? Well the way i see it, it’s:

1. Warner- perfect pass after perfect pass
2. E. Manning- underated due to a horrible recieving core and run-focused coaching
3. Favre- almost said Peyton, but Favre has much worse players around him, or maybe i just want to be contraversial.

Manning 10, that’s quite possibly one of the more ridiculous arguments I’ve ever read. Also, the fact you’ve got Warner as your MVP pretty much blows your credibility.

Kurt Warner 2008 Season Comparison to MVP Seasons

Kurt Warner has a few NFL records as well.

Only Warner and Manning has 3 perfect passing games !!

With 4,583 + passing yards in 2008.

300 Yard Passing Games Come Often for Kurt Warner

Kurt Warner has collected his 44th through his 48th career 300-yard passing days in the 2008 season. He now has seven 300-yard passing days in NFL 2008 and is averaging 318.7 yards per game. His 48 career 300-yard games are the fifth most in NFL history.

Career 300-Yard Passing Games — NFL History

Player Games Played 300-Yard Games Pct.

Dan Marino 242 63 26.0
Brett Favre 267 55 20.6
Dan Fouts 181 51 28.2
Warren Moon 208 49 23.6
Kurt Warner 106 48 45.6
Peyton Manning 177 44 25.9

Kurt Warner has thrown for 300 yards in 45.6% of his games for his career, by far the highest percentage among all-time players with 100 games played (Dan Fouts is second with 28.2%).

Most Consecutive 300-Yard Games in NFL History
6
Steve Young (San Francisco 1998), Kurt Warner (St. Louis 2000), Rich Gannon (Oakland 2002)

5
Joe Montana (San Francisco 1982), Kerry Collins (NY Giants 2001-02), Drew Brees (New Orleans, 2006), Kurt Warner (Arizona, 2008)

With one more 300-yard game, Warner will have eight on the season, tying the third-highest total in NFL history.

Warner now has 18 300-yard games as a member of the Cardinals, the second-highest total in franchise history behind Neil Lomax (19). Lomax played in 108 games over nine years (1981-89) with the Cards, while Warner has played in 41 games in Arizona.

NO ONE THROWS FOR MORE

In 2008 , Kurt Warner has thrown for 4,500+ yards. This season, averages out to 318.7 yards per game, the second best total in the NFL behind Drew Brees 325.1 through 10 games.

In terms of career totals however, no quarterback in NFL history has averaged as many yards per game as Warner’s average of 264.6, a total that was bolstered last week against the Giants when Warner threw for 351 yards.

Most Passing Yards Per Game (Minimum 50 Games) NFL History

Player Games Played Yards Yards Per Game

Kurt Warner 106 28,591 264.6
Peyton Manning 177 44,449 259.9
Dan Marino 242 61,361 253.6

Kurt Warner entered the season averaging 8.11 yards per attempt in his career, the fourth-highest total in NFL history. Warner has averaged 8.1 yards per attempt, keeping pace with his career average. Warner has averaged at least 8.0 yards per attempt in four games this season and at least 7.8 in three others.

Most Passing Yards Per Attempt (Minimum 1,500 Attempts) NFL History

Player Attempts Yards Yards Per Attempt
Otto Graham 1,565 13,499 8.63
Sid Luckman 1,744 14,686 8.42
Norm Van Brocklin 2,895 23,611 8.16
Kurt Warner 3,557 28,591 8.11
Ben Roethlisberger 1,905 14,974 7.96

Career Completion Percentage (min. 1,500 attempts)
67.7 Kurt Warner, 1999-current (3,392-2,228)

65.7 Chad Pennington, 2000-current (2,260-1,484)

64.3 Steve Young, 1985-99 (4,149-2,667)

64.1 Drew Brees, 2001-current (3,413-2,187)

64.1 Peyton Manning, 1998- current (5,829-3,734)

Highest Career Passer Rating
96.9 Kurt Warner, 1998-current

96.8 Steve Young, 1985-99

94.7 Peyton Manning, 1998-current

92.9 Tom Brady, 2000-current

92.3 Joe Montana, 1979-94

Most Passing Yards in a Season
5,084 Dan Marino, Miami, 1984
5,068 Drew Bress
4,830 Kurt Warner 3 times 4500+ yards, St. Louis, 2001

4,806 Tom Brady, New England, 2007

Most 300-Yard Passing Games in a Season
Rich Gannon, Oakland 2002 (10)

Dan Marino, Miami 1984 (9)

Warren Moon, Houston 1990 (9)

Kurt Warner, St. Louis 1999 (9)

Kurt Warner, St. Louis 2001 (9)

Dan Fouts, San Diego 1980 (8)

Kurt Warner, St. Louis 2000 (8)

Trent Green, Kansas City 2004 (8)

Tom Brady, New England 2007 (8)

Most 300-Yard Passing Games in a Career
63 Dan Marino, 1983-1999

55 Bret Favre, 1991-current

51 Dan Fouts, 1973-87

49 Warren Moon, 1984-2000

48 Kurt Warner, 1998-current

45 Peyton Manning, 1998-current

Most Consecutive 300-Yard Passing Games
Steve Young, SF 1998 (6)

Kurt Warner, StL 2000 (6)

Rich Gannon, Oak 2002 (6)

Joe Montana, SF 1982 (5)

Trent Green, KC 2004 (5)

Kerry Collins, NYG 2001-02 (5)

Drew Brees, NO 2008 (5)

Drew Brees, NO, 2006 (5)

Kurt Warner, AZ, 2008 (5 – current)

Dan Fouts, SD 1979 (4)

Dan Fouts, SD 1980-81 (4)

Bill Kenney, KC 1983 (4)

Joe Montana, SF 1985-86 (4)

Joe Montana, SF 1990 (4)

Warren Moon, Hou 1990 (4)

Drew Bledsoe, NE 1993-94 (4)

Kurt Warner, StL 1999 (4)

Brian Griese, Den 2002 (4)

Daunte Culpepper, Min 2004 (4)

Most Seasons Leading League in Passing Yardage

7
Sid Luckman, Chicago Bears 1939-43, 1946-47

5
Steve Young, San Francisco 1991-94, 1997

3
Arnie Herber, Green Bay 1932, 1934, 1936
Norm Van Brocklin, Los Angeles 1950, 1952, 1954
Len Dawson, Dallas Texans 1962, Kansas City 1966, 1968
Bart Starr, Green Bay 1966-68
Kurt Warner, St. Louis 1999-2001

Most Consecutive Seasons Leading League in Passing Yardage

5 Sid Luckman, Chicago Bears 1939-43

4 Steve Young, San Francisco 1991-94

3 Bart Starr, Green Bay 1966-68

3 Kurt Warner, St. Louis 1999-2001