Why the Titans have clinched the AFC South even though they haven't beaten a good team since early October
Lots of people have been asking why the Titans clinched the AFC South so early. The answer: Stupid rules regarding tie breakers.
It is looking very possible that the Colts and Titans could have the same exact record going into the playoffs, only the Titans are guaranteed a home game and a first round bye while Indy must play all its playoff games on the road. Yeah, it sucks, but two of the last three Super Bowl winner came from the 5th and 6th seeds in the Wild Card rounds. NY and Pittsburgh played (and won) all their playoff games on the road. Still, it is a bit annoying that Tennessee has the division even though they could end the season 12-4 with Indy. How is this possible? The NFL's priority with tie breakers.
Currently, the Colts are 2-2 in the AFC South. The Titans are 4-1. If Indy wins out they would be 4-2 in the division along with Tennessee, and they'd be tied record-wise at 12-4. They'd also be tied head-to-head 1-1. So, that means regular season record, division record, and head-to-head record are tied. Logically, you'd think AFC record would be the next tie breaker. Both teams play in the AFC. How well they play in the conference should decide, right?
Nope. Basically, the team that played the best against the NFC North won the AFC South division. Yes, I agree. That's pretty stupid stuff right there.
"Common opponent" is the next tie-breaker, not conference record. The common opponents between the Colts and Titans were the NFC North. The Colts went 2-2 against the "Norse" division. The Titans went 4-0. If the next tie-breaker were AFC record, Indy would win the AFC South if they won out. Indy would end with a 10-2 AFC record while the Titans would end with a 9-3 record.
This situation is different than the one in 2003, when both teams finished 12-4. Indy swept Tennessee head-to-head that year. So, there was no real controversy. This year, there is to an extent. The NFL switched to having common opponent over division record as the third tie-breaker this past year. Bill Polian explains:
They did it based on common opponents, which was a tiebreaker that was instituted this past year, I believe. My memory of having voted for that is absolutely blank, so I must have either not been in the room when it was discussed or I have amnesia about it. That’s how they did it. I can understand why they did it and here’s why. The schedule is in and of itself unbalanced. The only balanced parts of it are your division games and your opponents in the other conference. That gives you a total of 10 games: roughly, two-thirds of the schedule. So, those games are constant. The other games are weighted against the better teams. One plays one, two plays two, three plays three, four plays four. So, the easier-scheduled team would have an intrinsic advantage within the conference. Now that I think of it, I may have been in the room when it was discussed, because I’m repeating all of the talking points. Somewhere in the recesses of my memory, the facts are coming out. Even though it’s a change and it’s not something we’re used to, you can make the argument that it’s a little more fair, because it relates to common opponents within the division as opposed to those so-called seeding games coming into play. I could see why people would like that better, but it is a change.
I agree with Polian that it could be argued that it is a little more fair, but when you say that the AFC South was won by the team that beat the NFC North the most, it just sounds stupid. It also demeans and diminishes one's record in the conference (you know, the one both teams play in), which is a BIG tie breaker when determining Wild Cards. Why different tie breakers for the same playoffs? For me, dumb rule change.
Now, before trolls start filing their teeth, the Titans won the South fair and square. No disrespect to what they've accomplished. They won the division under the rules, and they don't make those rules. But, if we were playing under the same rules that have governed this division since its creation in 2002, the Titans would not be the AFC South champs now. And the fact that people are asking "Why were they crowned so early?" says a lot about how tie breakers should be evaluated going forward. It also says something about the Titans, who haven't beaten a playoff caliber team since October 5th. And no, the Colts were not a good team on October 27th.They played that game without Bob Sanders, Joseph Addai, and Kelvin Hayden. They have since won 7 in a row, but back then they were not playing well. They were inconsistent, and I said as much.
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What date did the Titans and Colts play?
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
Oct. 27th
Last I saw (unless you have info I don’t) the Colts aren’t in the playoffs… yet.
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So on October 27th the Colts were not a good team?
Your headline reads good team not playoff team.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
Did they look like a good team?
They were 3-4 after that game. They have managed to battle back. Indy’s lose to TN was the last loss they’ve had.
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When did they become a good team?
What turned it around?
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
When they hopefully make the playoffs
That is when it will get turned around. Winning all these games means nothing unless they make the playoffs.
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So the Colts aren't a good team now?
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
When they make the playoffs
they will be a good team. Then, I’ll change the title of this post. Happy?
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I don't care about your title
It is just interesting to me that you are now saying the Colts aren’t a good team.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
Colts
I’ve maintained all year they have the talent and potential to be championship caliber. But the good teams are the teams that make the playoffs.
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So today
the only good teams in the NFL are the Titans, Steelers, Giants, Cardinals and Panthers?
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
Why are you playing coy? Those are the teams that started the season and handled their business early and earned their right into the playoffs. The Colts are clearly gaining momentum and are on the rise, as opposed to the Titans lately. You know this. I know you know this. You know I know you know this. So what’s with the condescending questions?
The questions are not condescending
I am just surprised that he isn’t calling the Colts a good team. I think they are a good team as long as Peyton Manning is the QB.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
Well
I always think they are “good.” They could be 0-14 and I’d still look for positives. But, back on Oct. 27th, that was a very inconsistent football team the Titans played. It is my hope and belief that the current Colts are different, but they have to prove it. And the truly “good” teams are the ones that make the playoffs.
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Vikes have their division, I think
Throw them in there. The Texans are playing well. The Jets, Pats, and Phins are kind of beating up on each other. I don’t think Atlanta is good, but I’m impressed with their turn around.
Small side note: Dude, remember when everyone said the Jags were supposed to win this division?
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I do remember that
When the Titans played the Jags in week 1 the announcers spent the whole game talking about how this is the year the Jags unseated the Colts.
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
Well, I'll come clean
I didn’t think the titans would be this good. Then again, I didn’t expect Collins playing so much. So, there’s my out.
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Hell
Football Outsiders predicted the Texans to make the playoffs, leaving us at the bottom of the division… and we were supposed to have a top 5 schedule.
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
I love your headline
especially since we beat you guys in late October.
Also, if your measure of ‘good team’ is one that’s going to make the playoffs, then you guys have probably only beaten 1 (Pit), maybe 2 at the most (NE), since Oct. 12th.
Where I was raised 2 + 2 = 3rd and 6.
We're not a good, playoff team, yet
We’re not in the playoffs. But we did beat the Vikes and Steelers, both on the road. The Vikes pretty much have their division locked up, and the Steelers will take the #1 seed away from you next week.
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Also
Since October, the Titans have played only 5 teams with .500 or better records. They are 3-2 in that stretch (0-2 recently) and are 9-0 against sub-.500 teams.
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Correction
7-0 against sub.500.
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The new system does make sense
I am a huge Colts fan, but the new system does make sense as Polian explained so well. The Colts and Titans played each other, then 12 other common opponents, so that is a legit standard to use. Otherwise a team that played the dogs of 2 other divisions based on previous year’s standings would have an advantage over a team that played their 2 games against much tougher teams.
The Colts led the Titans by 8 points in the 3rd quarter and blew it (yes, the Colts blew that game rather than Tennessee winning it). If they hold on to 2 easy picks in the first half, it’s likely a blowout. As much as I would love for the Colts to have a chance to win the division, they had their shot.
albert haynesworth back for the playoffs
vandenbosch out this wknd as well
pitt definitely getting 1 seed
I was thinking about this this morning in bed and thinking how stupid it was that the AFC record wasn’t the tiebreaker in the division. But Polian’s explanation does make sense.
Would be awesome if it was still under the old rules and the Steelers won this week, meaning the Division title, first round bye and a home game would be on the line in Week 17. What a game that would be.
Ahh well. See you in the playoffs (I hope), Titans fans.
"common opponents"
It’s more than just NFC North. Wouldn’t it also be Jacksonville, Houston, and AFC North? Or at least also AFC North?
for common opponents to matter division record has to be tied so in-division games don't matter when figuring it
AFC North does count, but both team have swept the AFC North so far so that’s even
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