In case you thought the rivalry between the Colts and Patriots was watered down this year...
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Yes, I know the Bengals are the Colts opponent this week. And no, I am not dismissing them. I just came across this article from Yahoo, and it re-affirmed pretty much what I already knew: The Colts and Patriots still absolutely hate each other.
Keep your Cowboys v. Giants. You can shelve your Chiefs v. Raiders. Tell Steelers and Browns fans to take a back seat, because THE greatest rivalry in the NFL (and all of professional sports) is still Patriots v. Colts.
You'd think that this year, with the loss of Tom Brady and the injury to Peyton Manning, that the friction between Patriots and Colts players and coahces would simmer down. Um, no. They still f&@king can't stand the sight of the other:
And with all due respect to the Jets, the feelings of bitterness run deepest for the Colts, who have found a myriad of reasons to loathe the Patriots coach. From the postseason history to Spygate to his annually frigid handshakes with Colts coach Tony Dungy, it’s a recycled hatred that has reached self-sustaining proportions.This year’s moment didn’t get a lot of media attention, but it irked the Colts just the same. It took place when, during the run-up to the Nov. 2 game at Indianapolis, Belichick seemed to make a subtle hint that the Colts weren’t being honest with their injury report.
It seems ole Billy Boy took a subtle dig at how the Colts listed Peyton Manning on the injury report leading up to Indy's game over New England, which Indy won (of course). Colts players found Bill's dig on Tony Dungy's injury reports amusing, especially Dwight Freeney:
"Coming from Bill Belichick, that’s frickin’ hilarious," Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney said. "Tony’s not going to do that. He’s not that type. That’s the type of stuff Bill does. That’s just the type of mentality Bill has and they have as a team. Every week last season, frickin’ Tom Brady was on the damn injury report with an ankle or whatever, and he was playing every week. That’s just the kind of stuff they do. So don’t come out and try to act like we’re doing something with our report."
Ah yes, count on Dwight to let Bill and the Pats know how he truly feels. Look, it is pretty well known that most of the NFL dislikes Bill Belichick. He is a known cheater and often tries to skirt rules in order to gain a competitive advantage. It is a win at all costs attitude, rules and integrity be damned. Some admire this mentality. Most loath it. And when Tony Dungy, a man who is viewed as an out-and-out saint both within and outside the NFL, gives you an icy handshake, it pretty much means you are the lowest form of life on the planet. Slugs make fun of you. Such is Bill Belichick.
But, that said, this season might be the best coaching job both Belichick and Dungy have ever done. Both have dealt with devastating injuries. Yet, do you really think a team like the Tennessee Titans are "better" than a Bil Belichick coached Patriots team? Seriously, would anyone here be surprised if the Pats and Matt Cassel walked into Nashville and plastered the Titans for a big, fat "L" in the playoffs? I know I wouldn't.
This latest tiff is yet another log on the fire for this burning, seething rivalry; a rivalry that the NFL very much needs to stoke. If I'm wearing my Colts hat in NY and a transplanted Pats fan crosses my path, more often than not we give each other "the look." This look is one that says, "My team just kicked your team's ass... and I banged your sister last night, chump. How you like them apples?"
Fortunately, we have a great blog rival in Pats Pulpit who provides us with the necessary foil we Colts fans need. The Pats v. Colts rivalry is still alive and well, and now it is more Belichick v. Dungy than Brady v. Manning.
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I object!
Why do you want to pain me with a picture of belichick at the top of my Stampede Blue screen?
MasterRWayne!
Welcome back! I’ve been wondering why I didn’t see you on here anymore. Thanks for all your great offseason and training camp/preseason coverage! You totally saved me from the worst of Colts withdrawal symptoms while waiting for football season to come around again.
Greatest Rivarly in sports??
No waayy are Colts Pats greatest in sports. Its not even the best in football! Cowboys Giants is the best right now. It lately fluctuates between colts- pats, cowboys-giants. This year, DEFINITELY not Colts-Pats, all about G-Men- Boys.
the NFC East rivalries
you can’t point to one and say that’s the biggest rivalry because all four teams hate each other so much. i think the biggest rivalry in the division would probably be Eagles-Cowboys. Philly fans hate the Cowboys more than anybody.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Dec 5, 2008 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
Go to a River Plate v Boca Juniors game
And then tell me that any of the “rivalries” in US sports, let alone the NFL, is the greatest rivalry in “all of professional sports”.
Ha!
I can’t decide if it’s Americans hubris or ignorance and amuses me most.
It's most definitely ignorance
I am from Uruguay and have been to a couple local games down there. It is ALWAYS nuts at the games, even when you’re talking about middle of the league teams, much less the perennial powers. We’re talking about entire stadiums singing fight songs, people lighting shit on fire, regular fights in the crowds…all the kind of stuff that could never happen on a regular basis in professional sports here.
However, unless you see it live, it’s hard to really grasp how much these people love their teams and hate their rivals. Even watching it on TV helps, but how often is the average US sports fan going to come across a game like this? I think if you forced every red-blooded American to attend a single big rivalry game in South America, they would gain a better understanding for how crazy a rivalry can be.
I like to call it Civility
I don’t think that just because we don’t set shit on fire or beat the hell out of each other when we attend a game we aren’t rabid sports fans. In America we kinda like our Billion dollar stadiums and would prefer to keep them looking good instead of looking like a shit hole. The reason all that crazy stuff doesn’t happen here is not necessarily because we don’t love our sports teams it’s because we have a sense of common decency most of the time.
In the end I’m not saying that Soccer fans in other countries aren’t crazy about their rivalry games but that judging fandom by how many people are put into the hospital and how much damage is done to the host venue isn’t quite the barometer I would use. No offense.
I agree
While the adrenalin rush must be awesome the millisecond before getting trampled to death or burnt up in the stands (that is if the stampeding crowds don’t collapse the stands first and kill everyone that way), I fail to see the attraction.
Keep the faith!
The fact you think the rivalry between River and Boca, or Real Madrid and Barcelona, or the Milans, or Man United v Liverpool, or any of the other great football derbies, is only intense because of the violence, just indicates how misaligned you are.
Imagine if the Jets and Giants had, between them, won 40 or so Superbowls, had compted against each other 2-5 times a year in three competitions for over a century, had had generation after generation of support growing up being indoctrinated with hatred for each other, had had decades where people died, where Terrell Owens dancing on the Dallas Star was not only not unusual, it was par for the course, where the client media for each team spent the whole year sniping at each other, denigrating each other’s teams. Imagine if Meadowlands was once part of the “other side” of a civil war to the side the Giants are on.
Then you have a rivalry.
Colts v Pats? Yeah, they don’t like each other much.
by eltharion_doa on Dec 6, 2008 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Titans Fans
are quite cocky this year
by FreeneyWillEatYourBaby on Dec 5, 2008 4:49 AM EST reply actions
surely you must be joking...
THE greatest rivalry in the NFL (and all of professional sports) is still Patriots v. Colts.
in the NFL right now, i agree with you. but if you think this rivalry is anywhere close to Yankees/Red Sox, then you’re in serious need of a history lesson. if you asked 10,000 Bostonians who they hate more, the Colts or the Yankees, 10,000 of them would say the Yankees.
it’s not even close.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Dec 5, 2008 6:01 AM EST reply actions
That rivalry is in hibernation right now. The Yankees have been sucking it up every since the Sox came back and beat them in the playoffs in 2004.
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I live in downtown Boston
It’s not in hibernation. Remember when the Pats had beat us 5 times in a row in the early part of the decade? It still felt like a pretty big rivalry then. The Yankees were definitely at their worst this year, but because of how many times teams play each other in baseball, there’s always going to be a rivalry with games won on either side. Plus there’s some geography in the rivalry since they’re just 4 hours away from each other. And Boston is actually kind of small and pretty blue collar compared to NYC so the locals always feel like they’re sticking it to the man and relish the opportunity to do so. Lastly, the lack of a salary cap means that the Yankees can always get big time players to keep the rivalry from dying.
Overall, each rivalry is at the top of their league. I don’t think there’s a huge difference between the two either, they’re generally even. It’s just a different beast due to the distinctions between baseball and football and NYC v. Indy.
I forgot to add...
I wear Colts gear all the time and love the looks I get from people. I moved here 2 summers ago, right after we won the super bowl, so people couldn’t talk too much shit. Even last year, during the 18-1* (cheated in week one) run, anything their fans said required the automatic response of “who’s the world champion right now?” I’m still a little afraid to watch the Colts v. Pats game in public with a jersey, but I’m working on that. The suburbs are fine, but some of these Southie folks are scary.
Well to the perception of MLB fans, the rivalry is in hibernation. I can’t stand either of those teams being a Rays fan, but the hype surrounding the two teams is dead right now. The Yankees need to rebuild and get younger, Boston needs to get healthy and replace some of their washed up vets as well. I think the Rays are going to be running the show for the next few years thank god.
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That's true.
I guess when you talk about rivalries, there are three separate categories.
1 – Fans who hate each other the most
2 – Rivalries the media hypes up the most
3 – Rivalries understood by the nation as a whole.
Red Sox/Yankees is still up there in #1 but the media really went overboard on it from ‘01-’05 or so. Because of that, the media has slowed down on it some (in large part b/c the Yankees have sucked some) and the nation as a whole is unbelievably sick of hearing about it. If you live anywhere other than the East Coast, it sucks to hear about the same two cities over and over again (I was in Indy up until Boston).
that rivalry will never be in hibernation
that’s like saying Ohio State-Michigan is in hibernation because UM was 3-9 this year and OSU has won five straight in the series. it’s just not true. people in Boston hate the Colts, but they’re raised to hate the Yankees from birth. take a trip to Boston with a Yankees’ shirt on and you’ll understand the reality of the situation.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Dec 5, 2008 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
that rivalry definately has the best quote
(after OSU went for 2 in the 4th quarter with a massive lead)
Reporter: Why did you go for 2 there?
OSU Coach: Because I couldn’t go for 3.
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by shake n bake on Dec 5, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Pats-Colts is the best CURRENT rivalry in the NFL, because year after year it’s determined playoff seeding, undefeated seasons, and homefield advantage. Boys-Skins is probably the best HISTORICAL rivalry, but the Cowboys haven’t won a playoff game in over a decade, and the Skins just aren’t that great.
I freely admit to heckling random Pats fans. It’s my God-given right as a Colts fan.
Yankees-Red Sox is being kept alive purely because Boston fans can’t let anything go and STILL despise the Yanks for 03. Nevermind that they won in 04 and 06. The Yankees are going to be a bad team for a long time. It’ll be a big deal when it matters.
Ohio State-Michigan is moribund for the time being. Michigan is terrible and OSU is overrated. I’d say Oklahoma-Texas is bigger right now.
Colts-Pats is consistent entertainment, and has been for most of the last decade. A lot of the NFL’s most memorable games over the past few years have come from these two teams, and a great many have come from them playing eachother. Oddly enough, if the Jets win the AFC East, the Colts and Pats would play eachother next year. Same with the Colts and Chargers. We’d also get a game against Baltimore. Funny how that works, right?
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actually
Yankees/Sox is being kept alive by almost a century of hostility and countless unforgettable moments: the selling of Babe Ruth, The Boston Massacre, Bucky Dent, Righetti’s no-no, Pedro vs. Zimmer, Aaron Boone, Varitek vs. A-Rod, 2004 0-3 comeback, etc.. i’m not trying to take anything away from Colts/Pats but comparing it to Yankees/Sox is laughable. if the Colts and Patriots five-year rivalry (because 2003 is when it really started) goes the next 85 years, then i’ll put it in the convesation with Yankees/Sox.
there is no bigger rivalry past/current/future/whatever in pro sports.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Dec 5, 2008 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
You’re completely missing the point here. No one except you is comparing the the Skankees-Shit Sox entire history to the Colts-Pats rivalry. But at present time, meaning AT THIS VERY MOMENT IN TIME, the Colts-Pats rivalry is bigger than Skankees-Shit Sox. Get it?
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Rivalry
Ok all homer stuff aside. You CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT think that what 8 years of great rivalries will equal 100 years. The Yankees-Red Sox rivalry I am sure is much more deep rooted than Colts-Pats.
I can relate it to Hockey, my home team the Calgary Flames have a great rivalry going with Vancouver Canucks right now because of standings and many other things. But the rivalry between us and the Edmonton Oilers is still better, we Calgarians hate Edmonton not only as a team but as a city, no matter how good the Calgary-Vancouver rivalry is it will never be better than the Calgary-Edmonton one.
As was said before, if you have been raised to hate a team then that takes precedent over any current rivalry hands down. I am not saying the Colts-Pats is not great because it is great, but it pales in comparison with the Yanks-Sox.
The fact of the matter is....
we are talking about the NFL.
Not MLB, NBA, NHL, or whatever soccer is. Great write-up on a heated rivalry in the NFL BBS.
On a side note ..whatever happened with the Hatfield-McCoy rivalry??

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