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Who the hell will they draft 2008: East Carolina RB Chris Johnson

I never want it said that I don't listen to my readers and contributors. This profile one is for shake n bake, a man so obsessed with East Carolina RB Chris Johnson it makes my Adam Vinatieri man crush look tame. Speaking of Adam:

Ok, there. I posted it again. Don't tell me you didn't miss it. I rarely got the chance to post it last year.

Anyway, back to the reason I'm writing this: East Carolina's Chris Johnson. It's easy to see why shake n bake wants to bare Chris Johnson's children. Johnson is a very interesting prospect, and certainly fills two positions of need for the Colts: Return specialist and back-up running back. I'll elaborate further on the back-up RB role: What's needed is not just someone who can spell Joseph Addai, but who has a totally different running style. Dominic Rhodes ran the ball very differently in Indy than Addai did. Addai is a finisher with excellent vision and fluid movement. He's very similar to Edgerrin James, but has better speed and quickness than Edge. Rhodes was a "shifter," and looked more to dodge tacklers than run through them. Dom and Addai complimented each other well, more so than Kenton Keith did last year. Keith runs with a similar style to Addai, and I'm not sure they complimented each other as well.

With Chris Johnson, you get a very different back than Dom, K2, or Addai. What is immediately eye-popping about Johnson is his 40 time: 4.25. He was the fastest player at the NFL Combine, and his clocked time raised more than a few eyebrows. But fast 40 times can often be misleading. Troy Williamson is one fast mutha. But he can't catch to save his life, and that's not good for a WR. Johnson is a running back, and when I hear him referred to as a "poor man's Reggie Bush," I get a little nervous. Why?

Because Reggie Bush stinks, and I shudder to think of what a "poor man's" version of this loser would play like.

Running backs who cannot run the football are crappy running backs. I don't care about their 40 times, their hands, or their ability to make people miss. Running backs must be able to run through, around, over, and one top of other people. They must continue moving forward after first contact. It's like a QB who can't throw the ball accurately (Vince Young). Sure, he can run, throw deep, and has a "winner's" mentality. If he can't throw accurately from the pocket, he's garbage. But, I digress.

The question here is Chris Johnson a "bitch back" like Reggie Bush? Does he go down after first contact? Does he dance rather than run? Does he play better in space rather than in the alley? These are all legit questions, and the doubts surrounding these questions are likely to knock Johnson down to the late second round despite his tremendous physical gifts.

Is Chris Johnson tough enough?

Ok, I've spent the first few paragraphs comparing Johnson to Bush (and those of you with dirty minds, we are kindred spirits). The comparisons end when discussing their character. Reggie Bush is a whiny bitch who likely cheated NCAA rules and is hated by his teammates in New Orleans. His toughness is often questioned as is his desire to get better. This guy was supposed to be the best player since Barry Sanders or Gayle Sayers, and the Houston Texans were thrown under the bus for passing on him in 2006 in favor of Mario Williams. Today, Williams is the foundation for a very promising Houston defense and Reggie Bush is starting to look like the Ryan Leaf of running backs. To look at what kind of player Chris Johnson is, we turn to our friends at New Era Scouting. With Chris Johnson, you have someone who might not be a leader, but is most certainly a high character individual:

Character / Leadership Ability: A standup individual on and off the field. Not a trash talker. Not necessarily a team captain, but he did serve as a mentor to younger players during his senior year.
Ok, Johnson passes the first Bill Polian test: He's not a jackhole. But nice guys can also have a tendency to loaf a little bit, and when talking Reggie Bush, his laziness is always brought up. Is Chris Johnson lazy? Hellz no!
Competitive Nature / Work Ethic: Johnson has worked hard to learn multiple positions. He's clearly committed to the weight and film rooms. Known as a hard worker in practice.

Power: A lack of size hurts Johnson here. He shows the passion to keep his legs going. Johnson helps himself by staying low in his pads when he runs.

Ok, Johnson passes Polian test number 2: He isn't a dead beat. When you play for the Colts, you damn well better work hard, or a large man with a large forehead will walk over to your locker and eat you for lunch. Johnson's desire to get better has never been questioned, and he has the body type to add more muscle mass to his frame without losing his insane speed. He's very much in the mold of Brian Westbrook, and like Westbrook early in his career, Johnson can develop into a deadly weapon returning punts and kicks.

The 3rd Bill Polian test is versatility: RBs in the Colts' system must run, catch, block, and sometimes play special teams. Johnson passes this with flying colors. In terms of catching the football, he has WR-like speed and hands. He is actually a threat deep. He runs good routes and has the football intelligence to recognize and pick up blitzes. His lack of size hurts him in pass protection, but he (at the very least) understands how to pick up a stunt or blitz.

The only issue I can really see with Johnson is his hands. Some say they are too small, and will results in FUMBLES once he makes the transition to the NFL. If there is anything that Tony Dungy hates in this green world, it's fumbles. Now, Johnson did not fumble much in college, but as I love saying to Vince Young apologists: College is not the pros. Johnson will need to prove that he will not fumble when he's on the gridiron with players like Brian Urlacher, Justin Tuck, and Champ Bailey.

When all the reports are put together, and you get a total picture of Chris Johnson, it's understandable why people like shake n bake think the Colts should draft him:

Johnson is one of the top offensive weapons in this year's class. He has as a running back, wide receiver and returning kicks and punts. Runs with a good lean. A good character player but not really a team leader. Could possibly be converted to wide receiver. There is some concern because his only stellar year came his final year. He always flashed potential, though.
If he's there in the late second round, which several mock drafts think he will, the Colts will likely make a play for him. He has all the marks of a Dungy guy, and he would fill two big needs for the 2008 off-season.

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The gf kicked me out of bed for screaming his name instead of hers.
my blog <http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com>

by shake n bake on Mar 13, 2008 11:07 AM EDT   0 recs

Intriguing
If the Colts can get him, he might take Keith's job from him (though it seems to me the Colts are comfortable with Keith as Addai's backup absent Johnson or someone else blowing Dungy, Moore and Peyton away in training camp).  If he doesn't, though, perhaps letting him become the #3 RB gives him a chance to learn the offense--and eventually switch to WR.  I think most of us foresee the end of Marvin's career sooner, not later.  I know I'm stoked about Gonzo someday being the #2 WR.  The Colts are still gonna need a third receiver, likely a slot receiver--maybe this is the guy.  Or, should I say, can be the guy if he gets into the system, gets some experience and has the skills projected for him.  The ST skills are a bonus.  Perhaps shake n bake's obsession might be justified.
The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.

by Coltsfan58 on Mar 13, 2008 11:38 AM EDT   0 recs

RB
I think it's best to keep him at RB. However, you raise a very good point: If Johnson is such a good receiver, and is a deep threat, he might actually fill three needs. Why not use him as the slot receiver if he's so fast and runs such good routes?

If he could do that, the Colts would fill three needs (back-up RB, return threat, and third WR option) all in one player!

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by BigBlueShoe on Mar 13, 2008 12:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you guys will never sniff Johnson
the only way you have a shot at him is to trade up.

BTW, BBS, Reggie Bush doesn't stink and you know it. You would love to have him as Addai's back up and change of pace back.

Bush is by no means a feature back, but he's probably the best #2 back in the league by far and away.

by Terry on Mar 13, 2008 3:08 PM EDT   0 recs

hmmm
With all the hype about him before he was drafted, and how high he got drafted - he pretty much should be a feature back, and not "the best #2 back" in the league. Therefore i can relate to BBS saying that he sucks..

He is a great athlete, but im not so sure about how eye-popping his NFL-skills are.

by pukcab on Mar 13, 2008 3:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's the hype that got him
If all that was expected of Bush was to be a great return-man, a receiving threat either split wide or out of the backfield and a change of pace back, then he would more than meet expectations. He also wouldn't have been the #2 pick in the draft, but his struggles are mostly because people want him to become something he's not, a traditional every-down back.

I see Chris Johnson as Reggie Bush without the hype and the laziness/contentment that comes with being seen as a star before you do a thing in the league.

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by shake n bake on Mar 13, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

pukcab
there is a difference between sucking and being overrated.

Bush is overrated as the #2 overall pick in the 2006 draft, but he clearly doesn't suck as a player. He was just overhyped and overdrafted coming out of college.

I feel McFadden will suffer the same fate.

by Terry on Mar 13, 2008 4:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldnt mind
Trading up for him I know its really not the polian way, but in the past couple of years he has made some pretty good trades.

by coltsfan21hitman on Mar 13, 2008 4:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Ok im in love
I went on and found some videos of Chris. He is amamzing he has it all vision,blance,speed,power,hands,and did i mention he has speed do yourself a favor and watch these

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by coltsfan21hitman on Mar 13, 2008 5:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Drool
Well, after watching coltsfan21hitman's videos, I doubt he'll  be around at #59.  Trading up is the only way the Colts can get him.  Shake n bake's mancrush is fully justified.
The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.

by Coltsfan58 on Mar 13, 2008 6:38 PM EDT   0 recs

After seeing these highlight reals
I like what im seeing more and more. This kid could give us a dimension on offense we havent had in a while: A home run hitter. even though addai has that ability we mostly use him to pick up yards in the 20-10 yard range. This guy can give us that 50 yard home run gain on any down making our offense that much more versatile.

by metalmilitia on Mar 13, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Well im shure
You and every other colts fan wouldnt mind trading up to get him. The guy is a straight up playmaker any time he touches the ball he has a chance to take it to the house.

by coltsfan21hitman on Mar 13, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Also the fumble concerns
are based on the size of his hands, not him fumbling in college. If size is overrated in the NFL, think how ridiculous judging a guy by the size of his hands is.

His senior season
236 rushes+37 receptions+36 kick returns=309 touches
only 2 fumbles.

Once for every 154 times Johnson touches the ball. That's better than the rate Addai fumbled at his rookie year (2 in 266 touches) and far better than Kenton Keith did last year, fumbling once in 134 touches.

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by shake n bake on Mar 13, 2008 9:50 PM EDT   0 recs

CJ is the the real deal for sure!
If the Colts are fortunate to draft Chris you'll get a young man of great character and a work ethic second to none. This kid has worked his tail off to get to where he is today and how do I know? I've watch this him play most every Saturday over the last four years.

He has all the artibutes to achieve greatness in the NFL ... speed, power, balance, and vision. Give him a little crease and he's gone ... he's got a second gear not many athletes have. I'm real sure he could better his forty time to 4.20.

Here is some more video I crunched of CJ in action.

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[url]http://www.bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/album/505485/707126#imageID=32880747[/url]

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[url]http://www.bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/album/525584/736270#imageID=34206581[/url]

BM can't be wrong ..... LOL

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by bluewaterpirate on Mar 14, 2008 11:24 AM EDT   0 recs

2 questions bluewater:
  1.  What offensive scheme did he play in?  It looks like he was being given cutback options (2-3 a play) so is it heavy on the zoneblock?
  2.  The stats say 2 fumbles but I only recall 1...I'll assume I'm wrong but maybe you could clear this up for me.
There is another post up about Johnson here, at Mile High Report.  I think his cutback ability, followed quickly (and I mean QUICKLY) by the way he sets up the secondary could make him lethal in Denver's offense, game in and game out.  Plus, we would kill for an upgrade in the return game as well.  We pick #42, and I am cautioning Broncos fans that if they are interested, be prepared to bundle that #42 with one of our fourth rounders, cause we may need to chase Chris.

Just like everybody else!

by styg50 on Mar 14, 2008 6:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok what is Polian's phone #
Im ready to call him up and demand CJ whatever he has to do.

by coltsfan21hitman on Mar 14, 2008 6:01 PM EDT   0 recs

styg50
We ran two different offenses depending on what qb was in the game. 50/50 betweeen zone read and power I. Chris is a effective out of either. Watch his footwork in the video and you'll see he's just a natural when it comes to movement. He sees the field as good as any runner I've seen and is able to think 2 and 3 layers ahead of where he is at the moment. Trust me he's got a gear that only a few football players dream of. He's got great hands and played in the slot on occassion. Where he is most dangerous is returning KOs.

He had two fumbles one of which was not of his masking QB handed the ball to the wrong back and when he did it was in CJ's face.

by bluewaterpirate on Mar 14, 2008 10:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Ok
I wasn't counting the QB fumble.  I'm glad I have cleared that up cause I have been saying that he only had one and the QB had the other.  I could care less which way the stat goes, but I don't put that one on Chris.

His patience behind the line is impressive.  That is a huge asset in Denver's scheme.  We had a burner in Tatum Bell for a few years, but he lacked A)Forward lean.  When he got hit he went straight backwards.  And he lacked B)  Patience.  he was constantly getting tangled in the linemen's jocks.  We went through a year of that and when he came back the next year he hung back well enough, and in fact way to long, routinely not getting through the cut before it closed and with his lack of power that was a disaster.  He just never knew when to turn it on.

I see Chris as having the most important characteristic that Tatum lacked:  decisiveness.  I am so impressed by his read and cut ability that I'm liking him more than J.Stewart to fit not only the Broncos style but roster and current cap requirements as well.  We'll see I guess.  Broncos fans aren't currently too receptive to the idea, (they are addicted to RBs from the 6th rd and later only) but Shanny is up to something with his draft plans.  

by styg50 on Mar 15, 2008 3:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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