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2008 NFL Draft: Colts select TE Tom Santi at pick #196

So, in the 4th round, the Colts took TE Jacob Tamme. Now, in the 6th round, where the Colts have four picks, they take TE Tom Santi. Santi is a better blocker than Tamme.

Good effort as an inline and second-level blocker. ... Good use of hands and fights to sustain. ... Can track defenders at the second level and works to keep his man from making the play.
This is your 6th round open thread.

UPDATE: Colts draft another OC, Steve Justice, and Michigan RB Mike Hart.

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still there when colts pick again?

by skywalker on Apr 27, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

giants and philly

left to pick. philly may take him

by skywalker on Apr 27, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

dont think so

philly got larenzo booker day 1 and I think another back earlier today

by metal_militia on Apr 27, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Two things:

1. Mayock giving much respect to Polian. Awesome.

2. Why is it that the NFLN is at commercial during every single pick of the Colts? Why???

by Picky on Apr 27, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

The Colts are boring

everyone that covers the Colts has decided it

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colts go back to back

I want Hart and Henderson/Dunbar

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

sounds good to me

Then titus brown with the last pick of the 6th

by jochexum on Apr 27, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Santi a starter

Do we really think he can step in and start in the two-TE set? Or are we looking at Tamme or Fletcher starting alongside Dallas?

by BSanders37 on Apr 27, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

The O is flexable now

I think they’re going to try it all in camp and see what sticks
3WRs
2 TE/Slot
1 true TE

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about this

dallas in the slot, gonzo in slot, reggie and marvin out wide…

by yellowsnow on Apr 27, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah that's the base

Then if one of the top for is hurt/resting it’s
Tamme on passing downs
Satini on runs

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

and then the TE's

could be using dallas more as a slot wr this year?

by yellowsnow on Apr 27, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

If we don't pick Mike Hart

Does it means more of that KK next season?

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by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 27, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope not and Rhodes...

will get unloaded by the raiders. getting him back would be sweet

by jochexum on Apr 27, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoping for line help

Either O or D-line I think would be the best bet.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

well

we got another O line men

by metal_militia on Apr 27, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

We’re at commercial…must be time for the Colts to pick Grrrr.

by Picky on Apr 27, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Steve Justice

Another center, I assume he can also play guard.

One way or another, we’ll be set on the line. Good to know.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

why would we pick a blocking TE. Tamme is our style of TE.

by free on Apr 27, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

A center?

I hope he can play OG as well…

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by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 27, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Hart

Are you all happy now? ;)

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by Brad Wells on Apr 27, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Hart. Wonder how much he gets in against Keith.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

YEAH, A RB

FUCK YOU, KK!!!

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by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 27, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

as far as o-line

more depth is always good but i figured we’d try to find someone who could play tackle

by jochexum on Apr 27, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s the info on Justice

Athletic and quick…Extremely smart with terrific awareness..Is mobile and can get out in space…Technically sound…Uses his hands well…Light on his feet and slides well…Offers some versatility…Has a lot of experience…Great motor…Hard worker.

Seems like he fits the scheme.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

can he

play more than center?

by skywalker on Apr 27, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it also says the following

..Can also project to guard at the next level…He doesn’t have all of the physical tools you look for but compensates by doing the little things…Best fit in the pros will be with a team that zone blocks.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Rudolph Hardie next

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Still waiting to see a defensive tackle, it’d be nice to have some depth there.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

how many DT do we have? like 5 or 6?

by skywalker on Apr 27, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

WR taken

From Mount Union.

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by Brad Wells on Apr 27, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

who is the reciever?

anyone mind getting the scout info on him?

by metal_militia on Apr 27, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

D-III guy

Strengths:
Very good size and bulk…Above average timed speed and quickness..Has reliable hands…An outstanding leaper…Great body control and ball skills…Runs well after the catch…Strong & physical…Solid blocker…Worked as a return man…Productive.

Weaknesses:
Did not play against top competition…Might not play quite as fast as he times…Is not a great route runner…Not real elusive…May have trouble beating the jam and separating from pro corners..Will he still be a big play and deep threat in the NFL?

Notes:
Division III standout….Was a member of the Purple Raider ‘06 National Champion 4×100 outdoor track relay squad…Missed time with a leg injury in 2005…Played in the Texas vs. the Nation game and led the North in receiving..An underrated small school sleeper who dominated his level…Has the physical tools to play in the NFL.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I suppose he might make a decent return guy

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Last pick

Late 7th round, if there is a promising kicker out there, I’d love to see us give him a shot. Vinatieri is old and not that great anymore, if there is someone, might as well give him a shot.

Plus, we could use a kickoff guy.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

well

he didnt make a fg over 40 yards last year (0/3)

by jochexum on Apr 27, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was awful last year

Ranked 27th in FG percentage, and he has no leg strength. At least we could get someone who can get 50+ kicks there.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't cut him

We paid too much for him, but I think we should look at young guys, because Vinatieri is WELL past his prime.

We’ve had 2 kickers a couple years, remember Gramatica and Raynor used to kickoff?

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats the question

Still has the reputation as a great clutch kicker but that can only get you so far…he’s gotta have the physical abilities to still kick

by jochexum on Apr 27, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The rumors were that he was hurt

and he looked great in the playoff game after a few weeks off

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would make more sense to me

He’s 35, right? A little young to be so far out of his prime for a kicker

by jochexum on Apr 27, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have to agree there;

He must have had some temporary problem that he subsequently got over. Remember he injured his back at the Pats (though was not allowed to talk about it) and had a brief rough patch there too before returning to his perfectionist form.

The reg season game against the Chargers was the only game in my recollection in which Vinatieri actually failed a FG resulting directly in a team loss.

He’s still got a lot of great stuff left in him. One of the reasons we haven’t see tons of phenomenal kicks from Vinatieri as a Colt is that there are many times when Dungy doesn’t choose to use a kicker, period.

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Apr 27, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And don't tell me you've already forgotten the Ravens game in the playoffs leading to SB XLI?!

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Apr 27, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

horaaay

I’m happy the Colts picked up a running back.

by KingRichard on Apr 27, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

go DE

Hardie or Titus
there’s some some LBs still on the board too
Dunbar
Henderson
Highsmith
Woodyard

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Trey Wingo

says Mike Hart a “perfect fit” in Indy

by skywalker on Apr 27, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

maby some of those

DE’s can be picked up in free agency

by coltsfan21 on Apr 27, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

What about Pierre?

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by Brad Wells on Apr 27, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Garcon might be a returnman

as well as a WR.
he dominated D3, all the knocks on him are competitiion level

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope

that he returns to form. But if he doesn’t, he should be out. Because we’re paying him the money to be the best kicker in the NFL, and he hardly has any leg strength. If his accuracy is done too, he’s of no use.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

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by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 27, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Point by Deshawn Zombie

The Colts haven’t taken a DB yet. Polian loves drafting DBs, especially corners. It’s a lock. 7th rounder’s a DB

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok

Adam Shada it is… :)

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by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 27, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

god no

I’d cry. The only solace is that the Colts coaches are competent enough that he’d never see the field.

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

We could use him in suicidal situations.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 27, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

so frustrating

he started for years. It got to the point where every time there was a flag on the field after an opposing team passed against Iowa I knew it was PI on Shada. he could never keep up so had his hands all over his guy.

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jonathan Hefney?

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by Brad Wells on Apr 27, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

god... NFL Network is profiling Marcus Howard

He’s exactly what I wanted. Man he’s quick.

Polian nailed this draft. Backup RB, Interior OL help, Someone who can rush the passer. Can’t wait to see the last pick and the UDFAs.

by the21eraser on Apr 27, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

told yeah

he fits the colts pass rushers perfectly

by metal_militia on Apr 27, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen Polians draft history?

multiple DBs in 7 of his 9 drafts with the Colts
4 of then in 7 picks in 2001

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Over under

DB or someone like Hardie?

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by Brad Wells on Apr 27, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

They picked up one

maybe two DEs with Wheeler, already. I love Hardie though.

How about Bernard Morris so I can have one pick in my Colts mock right?

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wheeler

I was doing a bit more research on him

According to several sites, wheeler does struggle in coverage but it is only man coverage he struggles with.

They also note that he exceeds in a zone coverage and should flourish in a cover 2.

With that im thinking Polian and Dungy will keep him at LB

by metal_militia on Apr 27, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

the guys on the NES chat have spent all weekend drinking and now it’s getting ugly. Hahaha.
Heated argument about the safety from Army. Suggestions of what the other guy likes to suck.

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Alcohol, Politics and Sports

not a good mix

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

7th

Hardie
Brown
Dunbar
Morris
Helfrey
Henderson
Highsmith
Woodyard all still there

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, we're close to our last pick

Man, I love the draft, but I just hate how it ends so quickly…

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by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 27, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Such a quick draft this year. I do want them to put round 3 back in day 1 though.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang, Seattle took Coutu.

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Colts on the clock

Last pick.

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by Brad Wells on Apr 27, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

last pick

I want Hardie

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Anothrer center? Ummm…

by MrNFL on Apr 27, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

ANOTHER CENTER

Jamey Richard, Buffalo.

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by Brad Wells on Apr 27, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude

Jeff Saturday is pissed.

by BSanders37 on Apr 27, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

how many times do you guys think a team has drafted 3 centers?? hahaha..

by yellowsnow on Apr 27, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF?

Are the Colts trying to set a record on most Centers took in a draft?

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by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 27, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

What?

It’s becoming hard to trust in Polian at this point. I want an explanation.

by Aerostar193 on Apr 27, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't understand

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

i think it's safe to say

polian expects better OL play.

and charlie johnson may be referred to in the past tense at some point.

by yellowsnow on Apr 27, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN said he projected as a fifth rounder

So we drafted three of the top-five centers. Guess there weren’t many teams in the market.

by BSanders37 on Apr 27, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

OK, I don't get it...

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by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 27, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

UFAs

It’ll be interesting to see who the Colts have lined up as undrafted FAs—like, hopefully, more pass rushers like Hardie. My guess is that they already have some candidates lined up. The selection of three centers must mean the Colts (by that I mean Polian) decided that this was the year to get O-Line depth and Saturday’s replacement.

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.

by Coltsfan58 on Apr 27, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

well top centers are cheaper than top DBs

The Colts centers rankings
NES #1,#2,#8
about.football #2,#4,#9
thefootballexpert #1,#2
Rivals.com #2,#3,#5
walterfootball #1,#2,#6

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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kiper just said

He expects them to move Richard to guard. I’m assuming one of these guys is Saturday’s replacement, but who knows which.

by BSanders37 on Apr 27, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

eh?

I don’t get why you guys don’t get it. The O-line, for the most part, blew ass last year. Granted it was due to injury, but I don’t trust hacks like Charlie Johnson. Just because they carry the title center in the draft, that doens’t mean the Colts are going to use them as such. Moving a guy from center to guard isn’t as big of a deal as taking a left tackle and putting him in at right tackle, and vice versa.

I’m glad, esctatic even, that they went out and got some depth. Doesn’t hurt that these picks will be easy on the wallet either.

by KingRichard on Apr 27, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm worried

I think this signals that Saturday may be considering retirement a la Tarik Glenn.

by Aerostar193 on Apr 27, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

well...

He is 32 years old, going into his 10th season in the NFL.

by KingRichard on Apr 27, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drafting centers

I think Pollian drafted centers because they offered the best value in offensive lineman that were left. it didn’t seem as if anybody else had a need for centers.

by Blueisgood on Apr 27, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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