Deadspin's Christmas Ape is a complete idiot

by BigBlueShoe on May 12, 2008 1:33 PM EDT in Analysis Comment 13 comments

Although i disagree with writer Buzz Bissinger's onslaught against blogs, I will agree with him on one point: KSK and Deadspin contributor Christmas Ape is an idiot, and doesn't know WTF he is talking about.

Case in point: His recent post about Tony Dungy talking to high school kids recently about the importance of playing sports "the right way." Dungy was in Florida and talked to the kids about the importance of winning with class, citing the "Spygate" scandal as an example of winning without class:

"Then someone asked if anything happened last season that he wished he could include in the book. What followed was vintage Dungy. He seized the opening. He brought up the videotaping scandal with the New England Patriots.

"We talk about how important it is to do things the right way and have integrity so that when you do win, people can never ask that question," he said. "That's the great thing that I'm happy about with our team.

"Yes, we won. But no one is really going to ask, 'Did they cheat? Did they do things the right way?' I think our record speaks for itself and if you're a true champion, that's the way you'd like it to be."

Apparently, idiots like Christmas Ape didn't like Dungy's lesson on morality, and decided to simply make stuff up in an effort to discredit Dungy. Here's Ape's post:

O RLY? I seem to be remember there being some questions about pumped-in crowd noise in the RCA Dome cropping up numerous times in the past few years, most notably after the regular season game against the Patriots last season.

Apparently, like Mike Florio, Christmas Ape has a problem discerning FACT from rumor. That facts are that the Colts have never piped in crowd noise. There have been lots of petty allegations from people like Ed Werder and (laughably) the Patriots, but no actual proof. Even the "incident" at the RCA Dome last year was shown to be a technical error on CBS' part, not a malicious effort to cheat by the Colts.

Belichick and the Patriots, however, were caught cheating and punished for it. There is proof they did it. They admitted doing it. FOR YEARS!

Big, big, BIG difference that anyone with half a brain can see.

Moral of this: Christmas Ape is a moron who probably should spend more time checking facts than trying to show up Tony Dungy.

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heh

The moment I read that on Deadspin I was wondering how long it would be until this post appeared. I didn’t want to have to do it myself, to be honest. It would have contained too high a ratio of expletives.

by jdb on May 12, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

'Journalism'

I guess if this is what Christmas Ape considers ‘journalism’ we all know why he REALLY got fired from the Washington Post. It’s not because he’s a filthy mouthed blogger. It’s because he’s an incompetent ass.

by jdb on May 12, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Come on

that’s way over the line. I can understand Dungy riding his high horse getting on some peoples nerves, even though he still has every right to as there’s nothing more than baseless allegations against them.

All he said was Dungy ignored the allegations that have been made against the Colts, and he did. I and probably most of you think that those allegations aren’t all that important since there’s never been anything to them, but they are there and were ignored.

I think the post was pointless and a non-story but that happens to everyone that blogs sometimes. Keep up the usually much better work, Xmas Ape.

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 12, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nerrrp, sorry.

Sorry man but I gotta disagree. Read it again. He’s saying “Well Dungy complained about Actual Real Thing A, while completely ignoring Thing B (which is a complete fabrication and was shown to be so both times it was brought up but I won’t tell you that)”

By comparing NE’s actual for real cheating with this weird crowd noise thing that a few people are pushing that has never really happened, he’s lending the credibility of Deadspin to a lie. Unfortunately, it’s posts like that that lend a hint of truth to Bissinger’s opinion that blogs are shit. When blogs do THAT, they are shit. Of course, so are real newspapers when they do that too.

By the way, Ape, have you ever BEEN in the RCA Dome? Those speakers in there are the originals from 1984 I think. They couldn’t pipe in white noise played at 1 decibel. Listening to announcements over those things is like listening to Charlie Brown’s mother. The Colts won’t be able to actually pipe in crowd noise until the new stadium opens up

by jdb on May 13, 2008 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dont try...

Don’t try to speak logic to guys like “Christmas.” They are more interested in promoting themselves than they are in promoting the truth.

I am sure he can have a successful career in politics one day!

by MasterRWayne on May 13, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ZOMG WHAT A TARD

Hey fellas,

While CBS might have taken the blame for the accusations last year against the Patriots of generated crowd noise in the RCA Dome, it isn’t the first time the matter had been raised.

http://kdka.com/topstories/Ed.Bouchette.Colts.2.380404.html

Dungy’s point was that somehow the Colts could never be questioned for shady behavior. And that isn’t true, because they have been. Does that put them on par with the Patriots and SpyGate? No. But people have had cause to question the Colts. They’re not some shining example of sportsmanship.

Anyway, way to lift the debate with the “idiot” and “moron” stuff.

by Christmas Ape on May 12, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow, you failed!

Thanks for that wonderful "Red Herring" argument right there! Of course, you completely failed to mention that the point that you raised against the Colts (the noise issue) was a complete and total lie. If you are going to attack a team/organization please use facts instead of rumors. Otherwise fully expect BBS, myself and everyone else here to call you out for your less than stellar "research" on the issues.

And yes other people have complained about it, but yet NO evidence has ever been found. Therefore, complaints are not the same as facts regardless of how many times people bitch and whine about the RCA dome being a tough place to play at.

If you can’t take the heat then get out of the kitchen!

by MasterRWayne on May 12, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excuse me while I laugh my ass off here.

Bouchette says that his sources say not only did the colts turn up the volume at times when it would confuse the Steelers, they turned down the crowd noise when their quarterback shouted out his count.

Um…what? Let me ask you a question Christmas Ape. Explain to me how you turn down the volume on an active crowd? What are these people electronically controlled by the people up in the booth? Your “source” is nothing butt a bunch of bullshit and baseless allegations from a bunch of nobodies. Who were Bouchette’s sources anyways? Oh let me guess, it was the security guard right?

by KingRichard on May 12, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha ha

exactly! why would we even be playing crowd noise when our QB was on the field?

by Colt4Life on May 12, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So lets get the facts down...

1. The Colts are an organization that employees “robot fans” that can turn their noise level up and down via a remote controll system run by Bob Lamey and Bill Polian.

2. Bill Polian is a dangerous kick boxer that attacks officials from other teams.

3. Marvin Harrison has ninja moves and is faster than Neo from the Matrix movies.

These rumors, many of them proving false, somehow make the Colts just as bad as a team that employees video taping and HGH drug use for over SEVEN years?

OH RLY?!!!

by MasterRWayne on May 12, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They Caught Us

The humans have found out that we Colts fans are robots trying to take over the world through our hypnotic crowd noise. Abort mission.

coltshomer.blogspot.com

by Colts Homer on May 12, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

does that mean...

the cheerleaders are FEMBOTS?! oh god i hope so!!!

by Colt4Life on May 12, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha ha...this should put the Pats one to rest

So…if the Colts piped in crowd noise…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEWYig52EIo

then apparently the Pats did too!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcTDM77i8Nw

Seriously…if that doesn’t prove a point…I don’t know what does. And for the Steeler’s accusation, that was also never proven. Maybe 57000 drunk fans in a enclosed, dome building make quite a bit of noise. What a novel concept!!!

One things for sure, we won’t have to address that anymore…unless 63000 fans can make just as much noise in a not so enclosed building. Thats my challenge COLTS FANS!!!

by Colt4Life on May 12, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs