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After Matt Walsh sent tapes to the league office, six or so specific teams were revealed to have been videotaped by Walsh himself for the Patriots. One of the teams that I expected to see come out was the Colts, the Patriots' biggest competitor of the last 6 years. Well, expect it to come out tonight during Andrea Kremer's interview with Walsh tonight on HBO.
Yesterday evening, on 1070 The Fan (Indy's ESPN radio) with Eddie Whtie and Bob Kravitz, Kremer went into details about her interview with Walsh. I won't be able to directly quote her here but she said something like this:
"When the Patriots would play the Colts, Walsh was instructed to tape the offense. He was clearly instructed to first tape the offensive coordinator and then Peyton Manning until the play."
This has got me fired up. You can't tell me the taping of Tom Moore and Peyton Manning's signals didn't directly affect the outcome of games in 2001-present. Especially the games in 2001-2004.
I'd encourage everyone to listen to the podcast of the interview here: http://www.1070thefan.com/kravitzandeddie/podcast.aspx
The link is at the top of the page. You can skip to about the 8:30 minute mark of the interview. Also, she talks directly about the Colts about the 16:00 mark if you only want to hear that.
Prepare to be pissed off.
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Agreed
I have said it many times here, but having knowledge of your opponents signals is a HUGE advantage. That is why there are very specific league rules against the taping of offensive and defensive signals.
by MasterRWayne on May 16, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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This Kremer interview with Walsh certainly does piss me off. In my opinion we’ve been cheated out of at least a chance to have won another Superbowl by these A HOLES.
Also, this goes out to all the Pats fans that have trashed Manning over his career and put any doubt or further debate to rest. Peyton Manning IS the best QB of this generation and he didn’t have to cheat to get there.
I’ll end this with one big fat ............................................... *
IN POLIAN I TRUST
by colt44 on May 16, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All that interview did was support everything I’ve said to date on the piece of shit Patriots organization. Those hacks are dead to me, and I wish nothing but the worst upon all of them.
by KingRichard on May 16, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Send Them To Siberia!
That’s what I say. Before this, I stood up for the Patriots as a good organization, now I wish nothing but failure upon them.
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by Colts Homer on May 16, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is the outrage
against the Cowboys and what Jimmy Johnson said in an interview with WFAN. If what he said is true, then the Cowboys legacy is also tainted. I am in no way defending what BB did, just looking for the same amount of outrage at these comments by a coach of a great team…
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Q: How about the spying thing Jimmy. You’re a coach does that bother you what Belichick did?
JJ: Oh please. I’ve said it on our show. Eighteen years ago a scout for the chiefs told me what they did, and he said what you need to do is just take your camera and you go and zoom in on the signal caller and that way you can sync it up. The problem is that if they’re not on the press box side you can’t do it from the press box, you have to do it from the sideline. This was 18 years ago.
Q: You think the NFL came down too hard on them?
JJ: No, no, I said it on the show. He was wrong for doing it for the simple reason that the league knew this was going on not ust in New England but around the league. And the league sent out the memorandum to all of the teams saying you cannot do this. And os that’s when Bill Belichick was wrong. After he got the memorandum saying don’t do it any more, he did it.
Q: Did you ever steal signals?
JJ: Oh in a heartbeat, yeah. Yes I did.
Q: Via video, Jimmy? Or no?
JJ: Oh yeah, I did it with video and so did a lot of other teams in the league. Just to make sure that you could study it and take your time, because you’re going to play the other team the second time around. But a lot of coaches did it, this was commonplace.
Q: But did you do it by taping the signal caller?
JJ: Yeah.
Q: Oh you did.
JJ: That’s what I’m saying. I was saying one of Marty Schottenheimers scouts, Mark Hatley, who has passed away now, Mark told me that’s how they did it, and Howard Mudd their offensive line coach with Kansas City, who now coaches for Tony Dungy, he was the best in the entire league at stealing signals.
Q: Where’d you put your guy who was videotaping? Where was he?
JJ: My guy was up with my camera crew in the press box. So you’d just put an extra camera up with your camera crew in the press box who zoomed in on the signal callers. That’s the best way to do it, but anyway you can’t always do that because the press box camera crew might be on the same side as the opposing team. If they’re on the same side as the opposing team that’s when you need to do it from the sideline.
Q: Also with some operations and some teams they have equipment set up within the stadium so they can just run it ack and check what’s going on during the game anyway.
JJ: Oh I’ll tell you [laughing] some of the stuff that goes on it’s almost comical.
Q: Jimmy don’t you think using contraptions like that goes against the spirit of football?
JJ: Well that’s why the league put in that you can’t use any electronic equipment, during the game, locker room, press box, sideline, this type of thing. They ruled against it and again that’s why Bill Belichick was wrong.
Q: How much of an advantage would it give them?
JJ: Well you know Bradshaw and I had a talk back and forth on this. I did it a few times and then I stopped doing it because I didn’t think we got much out of it to be honest with you. But games are so close… If it gives you one single play in the ballgame it might be the difference. But again, he was wrong for doing it after the memorandum was sent out by the league, because the league knew that other teams were doing it. And so… it was a commonplace thing though
If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.'
- Jack Handey
by OneMore on May 17, 2008 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"I Did It A Few Times And Then I Stopped"
That’s a key sentence in there. Belichick didn’t stop until he was caught.
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by Colts Homer on May 17, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and kept going after
a memo specifically telling teams not to do that was sent out by the league. If you want to use it to say the competitive advantage wasn’t that big and that the Pats aren’t the only team ever to do it, go ahead, the interview supports that. But until you prove that every team in the NFL cheats the Patriots still unbalanced the playing field.
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by shake n bake on May 17, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone watch the interview in CBS News with Belichick? That was pretty hilarious and enraging at the same time.
by KingRichard on May 17, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's even more important
Is that the Patriots players didn’t really think it was big deal to peek into the “solution book”.
Hope it costs a few of them the HoF slot they are taking for granted. I can be a “genius” too if I knew what was coming in the exam.
"Winning is not everything;the desire to win is" - Vince Lombardi
by rangerover76 on May 18, 2008 5:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what about Landry...
In his autobiography, Landry described the league’s flirtation with radio communication between coaches and the quarterback in 1956. The Giants were playing the Cleveland Browns, and Paul Brown, Cleveland’s head coach, was sending play calls electronically to George Ratterman, his quarterback.
"As soon as the game began, our rookie end Bob Topp donned the earphones and tuned our radio to the Cleveland frequency," Landry wrote. Brown’s play call would be relayed to Landry in time for him to make adjustments on the field. By the time Brown realized that he was being overheard, the Giants had run up an insurmountable lead.
Was this game ever erased from the record books? He was a great coach, right??
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/opinion/18bowden.html?ref=sports
If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.'
- Jack Handey
by OneMore on May 19, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
did he do it for 8 years? did he lie and say that he didn’t know it was illegal? did he continue to do it after the NFL came out and said the specific action was against the rules?
A huge part of what 90% of America hates about this is that Bill won’t own up to what he did. He keeps calling it a “mistake” and a “misinterpretation” instead of being a man and taking responsibility for the actions he took.
by DoTheMathis98 on May 19, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Commish
In Goddell’s address to the media after the Walsh meeting he reiterated then that he didn’t like Belicheat’s answer about misinterpretting the rule. You could clearly tell that by Goddell’s statement that he knew Belicheat was feeding him a line of bullshit. BB is smug, disrespectful and is a digrace to this league.
IN POLIAN I TRUST
by colt44 on May 19, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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