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Are the Colts still the beasts of the AFC South?

It seems every year some nitwit at ESPN or NFL Network says This is the year the [insert inferior AFC South team here] will overtake the Colts in the AFC South. They said it last season after Vince Young's rookie year. They said it the year before, after Jacksonville drafted Maurice Jones-Drew. They said it before that, when they actually thought that Steve McNair was a better QB than Peyton Manning. They've said it since 2003, and six straight AFC South titles later, they still don't get the hint. The Colts aren't going anywhere.

However, this year the racket is louder and (even worse) listened to a little more because the AFC South is now the best division in football. In 2007, no team had a losing record in the AFC South, and the "cellar dweller" 8-8 Houston Texans would have made the playoffs if they'd played in any other AFC Division. In the off-season, one AFC South team made "big moves" to try and unseat the Colts: The Jacksonville Jaguars.

I saw this diary by Jaguars fan remleym over at Big Cat Country, and like most rantings from Jags fans, it made me chuckle. Pretty much anything Jags fans do makes me chuckle. My favorite memory of covering the 2008 Draft is Chris getting up to use the head, and while he was gone the Jags traded up to the #8 spot. When he came back to the table where John and I sat, he asked us if anything happened. John and I tried not to snicker, and responded nonchalantly, Oh nothing much. By the way, the Jaguars are on the clock.

Chris' face when we said this was as priceless as a Peyton Manning MasterCard commercial.

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DE Derrick Harvey, via www.orangeandbluehue.com

The Jaguars' draft day maneuvers were one of many off-season moves designed energize the team for a potential Super Bowl run. In 2007, the Jags won their first playoff game in almost a decade, physically beating the snot out of Ben Roethlisberger and the Pittsburgh Steelers. They then went to New England and got waxed by the Patriots despite a tremendous game by QB David Garrard. The reason the Jaguars lost to the Patriots, and the reason they have not won a single AFC South title, is their lack of a pass rush. Despite what you may have heard about the Jaguars defense, it really isn't all that good.

Now before I get flamed, hear me out. The Jaguars are a very good team at shutting down an opponents running game. However, against the pass, the Jaguars flat out suck. They can't pressure the QB and their secondary is highly suspect. The Jaguars defense in 2007 allowed opposing playoff QBs to complete 78% of their passes for 599 yards, 5 TDs and 2 INTs.

In the modern NFL, that is a sucky defense.

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Tom Brady torched the Jaguars in the 2007 post-season.

So, after their playoff exit, the Jaguars decided that throwing the football is a good thing to build your offense around. However, if you are going to throw, you must, must, MUST stop the other team from throwing. This means you need a pass rush. This is why the Jags traded up to get DE Derrick Harvey at pick #8 overall, and drafted DE Quintin Groves in the 2nd round. The Jags also landed WRs Jerry Porter and Troy Williamson in free agency to boost their passing attack. They jettisoned steroids cheater Marcus Stroud (DT), and they will soon part ways with 2005 draft bust WR Matt Jones. David Garrard is firmly entrenched as the starting QB, and head coach Jack Del Rio has a nice contract extension. They also added defensive coordinator Gregg Williams to their staff to go with secondary coach Donnie Henderson. On the surface, these are all good moves, and it's hard not to get excited if you are a Jags fan.

But, look closer.

All of you, take a look at the Colts roster and the Jaguars roster. Look at their proposed starting lineups on offense, defense, and special teams. Now, after looking at those areas, can you honestly (and with a straight face) tell me that the Jaguars have done enough to overtake the Colts? No, you can't.

There is not one single area where Jacksonville is "better" than Indy. Maybe their special teams coverage units. Maybe. Everything else is a clear advantage for the Colts. Indy's QB, WRs, o-line, d-line, TEs, CBs, safeties, LBers, kicker, and punter are all better than Jacksonville's. Even the running back position favors Indy. The Jags have two studs in Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor, arguably the best RB tandem in football. But after them, there isn't much. They Colts have four starting caliber RBs, including rookie Mike Hart and Pro Bowler Joseph Addai. Despite Jacksonville's additions to their coaching staff, Indy's staff is still better. Tony Dungy, Tom Moore, and Howard Mudd are legends. Ron Meeks turned one of the worst defenses in NFL history into the best scoring defense in 2007, and RB coach Gene Huey is the most under-rated position coach in football.

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The acquisition of WR Jerry Porter is not enough to make the Jags better than the Colts.

via www.raidersjersey.net

So, knowing all this, I don't think it is rational or prudent to claim the Jaguars have done enough to overtake the Colts in the AFC South. Of course, anything can, and likely will, happen in the 2008 season. But, right now, just looking at both rosters, the Jaguars are not better than the Colts. Not even close.

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Ruh Roh:

Aside from the hilariousness of my Draft Day reaction, all of the above is nonsense!

In all seriousness, I shall retort shortly.

-Chris

Big Cat Country!:: The Official Home of the Unofficial Blog of the Jacksonville Jaguars!

by River City Rage on May 23, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What If

Think if the Colts were in the AFC East and the Pats were in the South. I’m thinking the Pats quest for 19-0 would have ended much earlier in the season.

coltshomer.blogspot.com

by Colts Homer on May 23, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you're right

I mean, c’mon! No offense to the good bloggers for those teams, but Buffalo, NY and Miami were weak last year. They’ve made some good acquisitions for the 2008 season, so it may be a different year.

by MaPatsFan on May 23, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's easy to win twelve games

When seven of them are bye weeks.

Har, har, har.

Big Cat Country!:: The Official Home of the Unofficial Blog of the Jacksonville Jaguars!

by River City Rage on May 23, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see where this is going

See you in Foxboro for the playoffs, maybe. Make sure the kitties bring mittens next time.

by MaPatsFan on May 23, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think about that game...

And I remember the dropped touchdown by Dennis Northcutt and wonder what could have been. While the Jaguars lost that game, our offense did a pretty spectacular job keeping up with what was the best offense in the league. Toss in improved secondary and you have yourself a game.

I’ll tell you this, Jacksonville isn’t scared of going on the road in the playoffs in any weather.

Though it’s terrible that we’ve got to wait a billion more weeks to actually have something to talk about…

Big Cat Country!:: The Official Home of the Unofficial Blog of the Jacksonville Jaguars!

by River City Rage on May 23, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Training camp is just around the corner.

by metal_militia on May 23, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Sure

The Pats may have gone just as far undefeated if they had played in the AFC South. I mean, they beat everyone they played in our division last year. Including us. On our turf. Maybe they wouldn’t have, but it is ultimately a bad case to make against a team. They can’t make the other divisional teams better, they can just play the best ball they can. The Patriots did just that. They have tape to prove it =P

by coltsfanawalt on May 24, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schedule

I’m pretty sure they didn’t play Jacksonville, Houston, or Tennessee in the regular season.

coltshomer.blogspot.com

by Colts Homer on May 24, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They beat Jacksonville

in the playoffs. That was one of their wins on the way to 18-0, before that fateful day when the other Manning made my day. If they beat Indy and Jacksonville, it isn’t a stretch to believe they would’ve beat Tennessee and Houston as well. Again, we will never know. What we do know is they won every game on their way to losing the big one.

by coltsfanawalt on May 24, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At Home

Remember, if the Patriots were in the South, they would have to play the Jags, Titans, and Texans twice in the season. I don’t think it is likely that any team can do that undefeated. This is a moot point since it is a “what if” question, but it is fun to ponder it.

coltshomer.blogspot.com

by Colts Homer on May 24, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right.

Of course, we were the best in the division. We beat all those teams twice (except Tennessee in the last and pointless game, who we almost beat with our scrubs), proving it can be done. Then the Patriots beat us on our turf, extenuating circumstances aside. It is fun to ponder, but I don’t feel very certain that anyone who couldn’t beat us on their turf would’ve beat the Pats either. The Pats even beat San Diego twice, who beat us twice.

Truthfully, I can’t stand New England, because they are our biggest obstacle year in and year out. Irritation aside, I do respect them as a team. Not for the way they bend the rules or snub everybody else, but I do think they have it together enough to be one of the top contenders for several more years, just like our Colts.

I totally agree with this article. We are still the beasts of this division. No one in it improved enough to touch us, including Jacksonville. The Patriots do have a soft division, but I think if we traded, they would still win ours while we won theirs. Our division is tough, but the Patriots, Chargers and Colts are the kings of the AFC until further notice. Perhaps include the Tomlin-led Steelers. They are closer to the Jags overall, though. I don’t think they would win our division.

by coltsfanawalt on May 25, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m really surprised that this year, everyone’s saying Jacksonville will be great. Last year, I said Jacksonville would be a playoff team, most said they’d be lucky to be .500. Now tons of people think they’ll be great, and as of now, I don’t see them winning double digits.

by MrNFL on May 23, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This again?

What have the Jaguars done during an actual season (no offseason does not count) to make them think they are better?

Nothing. Nothing at all.

Nothing about their offseason moves impresses me either. Jerry Porter has already been hurt twice and he is not a real powerhouse #1 receiver. They sign an overrated corner from the Chargers. Get a few rookie DEs in the draft (Harvey was a reach) who are supposed to as rookies nail Manning and Brady on their butts.

And as long as Del Rio is coaching the Jags I can sleep well at night.

Last year we had to hear how we lost too much in the offseason and this year we hear we did not do anything at all.

Sheesh when does it stop!

by HelloKitty on May 31, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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