Vince Young lacks the mental toughness to play in the NFL

by BigBlueShoe on May 27, 2008 12:01 PM EDT

Vince Young pondered retirement after his rookie season. No really, I'm not kidding.
Photo: Jamie Squire / Getty Images

We Colts fans (and AFC South fans in general) have had our fun at Vince Young's expense. Vince is a highly talented athlete who, let's face it, is not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. To put it bluntly, the dude is dumber than a sack of hammers. You don't need a Wonderlic test to know this, as Vince pretty routinely says and does stupid things. Since 2006, the Titans have dumbed down an already dumbed down offense in order to help Vince Young progress, and all it has done is produce 30 INTs and only 21 TDs from the University of Texas product. In 2007, Vince Young averaged a 6.7 yards per completion, fumbled 10 times (lost 3 of them), and generated a QB rating of 71.1. We saw him pout, whine, physically attack teammates, and (when crunch time came) he sat on the sidelines and watched Kerry Collins lead the Titans into the playoffs.

Yet, despite his horrid play, bad leadership, laziness, and questionable off-the-field conduct that had him disciplined by the Titans, we saw numerous apologists make excuse after excuse for Vince Young's actions. Now, the excuses need to stop and Titans fans need to start seeing reality. They need to start clamoring for change if they ever want to see their team in a Super Bowl anytime soon.

They need to start screaming for Vince to get cut. Not traded. Not benched. C-U-T. Cut.

Why? Because following his rookie season, which saw him win the 2006 Rookie of the Year award and a trip to the Pro Bowl, Vince Young nearly quit football because it was, essentially, too hard:

"I really thought long and hard about it," Young said on Thursday after practice. "There was so much going on with my family. It was crazy being an NFL quarterback. It wasn't fun anymore. All of the fun was out of it. All of the excitement was gone. All I was doing was worrying about things.

Translation:

via images.inmagine.com

Seriously. Are you kidding me!

Could you imagine if someone like Peyton Manning or Eli Manning had said something like this following any of the seasons prior to them winning Super Bowls. Media trolls and, likely, the same people making excuses for Vince Young would have jumped all over it, propping it up and using it as an example of how the Mannings are nothing more than spoiled little rich kids who choke under pressure. If Donovan McNabb had ever said ANYTHING even remotely close to Vince Young's confession, Philly media and fans would boo him every single time he set foot on the field. However, when Vince Young says he almost quit on his team, fanbase, and the NFL following a very successful rookie season, we get nary a peep from Vince fans.

Typical, I know.

For years, I told Jaguars fans that Byron Leftwich, another over-rated first round bust of a QB whose fans made all kinds of excuses for, needed to get cut in order for Jacksonville to take its team to the next level. Yet the Jags held out hope for "Fatty McButterpants" to finally come around, even though he couldn't do the most basic task a QB is required to do in the NFL: Throw accurately from the pocket. The same is now true for the Titans. If Titans fans want to see their club actually win games and go somewhere in the playoffs, they need to get rid of Vince Young and start over.

Real NFL QBs with a desire to work hard and win do not legitimately contemplate retirement after their rookie seasons. You can draw any kind of conclusion you want from Vince Young's statement, and likely spin it into an excuse. Maybe he had family problems. Maybe he was dealing with personal issues. Maybe he was just talking out of his ass.

Maybe, but doubtful.

The reason Vince Young likely contemplated quitting football was because, unlike college football, you actually have to WORK to be good. No more showing up on game day and "doing your thing." You must live, eat, breath, and sleep football for close to 300 days a year, minimum. You don't just show up and play. You work, and work, and work, and work, and work some more. Then, you play the games. It seems here that Vince doesn't like the work part of playing football. It isn't "fun."

Please, pass the Patron and cry me a river.

You will pardon me if I have little sympathy for someone who thinks that football isn't "fun" even though he was paid $26 million in signing bonus money. Heaven forbid Vince Young actually had to work in order to justify that money before he ever tried to throw an NFL pass. I will likely get flamed for this story, as I always do when I call Vince Young out for the fraud he is. But sometimes the truth hurts and people lash out at the messenger rather than face reality. This has nothing to do with the University of Texas or the Tennessee Titans. Both are excellent institutions in their own rights. This is about a player who is held to a different (and lesser) standard than other players at his position, and is given a pass when other players are not. Sports both builds and reveals character, and in Vince's case professional sports has revealed much of his inner life. He is not a hard worker. He is not a clutch player.

He is not a franchise QB.

Like I always say with Vince Young: If he ever turns it around and develops into a real quarterback, I'll be the first one to stand up and say I was wrong. However, I doubt that will happen. Vince Young is likely yet another over-rated college star who lacks the toughness, character, and work ethic necessary to become a great NFL player. His recent comments enforce this, and if his play continues to stagnate, it will be hard to take Vince apologists seriously anymore.

Jimmy at Music City Miracles also commented on Vince Young's "retirement" talk today as well.

UPDATE: Even Peter King thinks Vince Young is a sketchy character, and the Titans should be concerned:

I think if I'm the Titans, I'm not feeling very good about my quarterback right now. Did you see what Vince Young told Thomas George of NFL.com?

...

Wow. The Titans hand Young the keys to their franchise, he misses a plane to one of his rookie-year games (Philadelphia), and now he admits he thought of quitting at the end of the year? Now there's a solid guy.

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Cut?

I’m sure they could sucker some team into trading for him. They got a 4th rounder for a fantastically talented moron that was (and is) still suspended from the NFL. I’m sure some desperate team could pin there hopes on Young (like the Titans are doing now).

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by shake n bake on May 27, 2008 12:19 PM EDT 0 recs

Trades

Trades take time. As long as this idiot is still on the titans, they have no shot. None. Zero. Subjectively, I want Vince Young to stay because the Colts defense pummels him. However, if I were a Titans fan, I’d want him gone NOW!

Please make an account and post a diary, add some comments, and make some noise. Accounts are free, and only require an email address.

by BigBlueShoe on May 27, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

(ixnay on the Vince ashingbay! We don’t want the Titans to wise up!)

HEY TITANS FANS! ISN’T VY GREAT? TELL YOUR GM YOU WANT VY TO BE YOUR QB FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS!!!! WOOHOO!!!

by ctnyc on May 27, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

In all seriousness

Young does still have time to turn his career around. I made this argument with Leinart in another thread; the sample size is pretty small at this point. The main difference between Young and Leinart is that at least Leinart can throw reasonably accurately from the pocket. So the most basic aspect of quarterbacking in the NFL is there for Leinart and not for Young.

Both QBs have been disappointing, but I think Leinart has a better chance of turning things around. It could still happen for Young, but he’s gonna have to work his ass off to be a functional starter.

by ctnyc on May 27, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up 0 recs

Vince Young

He’s gonna be fine. He’s 25 years old, had a good first year and a bad second one. Most likely, he’ll be above average when he’s 28 or so. Funny how we can give a free pass on WR because they take time to develop into NFL stuff, but we forget that QB may do too. It’s not like he’ll be Peyton Manning ever in his life, but he’ll be productive.

And about his quote, I didn’t read anything that speaks against him. He said that it’s hard and ‘no fun’ to play in the NFL, which is the not-so-clever way to say the truth. And, fine, we get it, he’s not smart. But many of the NFL players aren’t as well.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 27, 2008 12:38 PM EDT 0 recs

Smart

Listen, you pretty much have to be fairly smart to be an NFL QB. There is a difference between “smart” and “wise” and it seems that Vince Young has neither of these qualities. Leinart on the other hand is very “smart,” he can run a pro-offense, but he is not very “wise” as was seen in the photos of him in the hot tub.

Leinart has hope because you can correct one fault, but Vince just has too many problems. He has amazing physical skills, but those skills are complementary skills for the QB position. Without the foundation of brains and accuracy a QB just cannot succeed at the pro level.

by MasterRWayne on May 27, 2008 12:48 PM EDT 0 recs

Look men, this is Theater of the Obvious.

You’re looking at a then 23-year-old millionaire, pointing a finger, and saying, “See! He’s immature!” Y’know what? Maybe he is. In fact, as you read through that NFL.com piece, the subtext is, pretty obviously, that he’s been dealing with a lot of what most folks would call “Learning Experiences,” and although he’s struggled, he’s come through more committed than ever. In fact, there’s nothing wrong with that.

Seriously, I get that this is a Colts blog, and that you’re supposed to bash your opponents, but I will tell you that I remember Peyton Manning’s first two years, and they weren’t pretty. It wasn’t until Year 3 that he really started to look like what he is today. And the team Young inherited was no worse than those old Colts teams, he’s just done more with what he was given.

DannoE

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Go Titans!

by DannoE on May 27, 2008 1:30 PM EDT 0 recs

He is given...

A top 5 defense, a great line, and a top five running game. He’s given an amazing team. If Young would stop throwing the ball to the other team, the Titans would be in the playoffs w/a first round bye and perhaps in the AFC championship game.

OH, by the way, Peyton’s 1st year Colts went 3-13, and the following year went 13-3. Do your homework before comparing a donkey to a stallion.

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on May 27, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

I wasn't gonna call the Colts a bunch of donkeys. That's rude.

DannoE

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Go Titans!

by DannoE on May 27, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

The vince young comparison to Peyton Manning was the metafor

for comparing a donkey to a stallion

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on May 28, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ummmm...

• “A top 5 defense”... well his first year it was a ‘last in the league’ defense and he got us 1 game away from the playoffs despite Kerry Collins losing the first 4 games.

• “a great line”... damned right it is

• “a top five running game.”... really? REALLY? Somebody in here let me know when LenDale became a top-flight running back. I know we racked up yards in some games but if you think our rushing attack was top 5 last year (not counting VY’s scrambles) then you’re kidding yourself.

We’re good, but we haven’t been that good. VY has been a HUGE part of why we’ve won even if the stats don’t show it.

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 8:03 AM EDT up 0 recs

Last year hey had all of those things

and all he did was hurt your talanted team.

"GO HORSE!"

by beester on May 29, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

Almost true

Except for the part that Peyton Manning set rookie records for yards, completions and touchdowns and he did all of this with a very bad team. Also, in his second year he threw for 4.135 yards and 26 td’s. In those 16 games Manning almost has as many yards and td’s as Vince Young has had in 32 games so please don’t even try to compare Manning with Vince Young.

by MasterRWayne on May 27, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

Vince Young is "more committed than ever"?

What evidence do you have of this? All I’ve seen is pictures of him getting drunk with his buddies this off-season. Please point me to something saying how he’s coming along with the new offense.

Supposedly the reason for Young’s bad season was Norm Chow, correct? And there is a new offensive coordinator this year, correct? Why in the world is he not spending every day working with him, learning this new offense. He obviously has more talent than many NFL players, and still believes that talent alone will win NFL games. This is a lesson he has not learned yet, and I don’t see anything he’s done this offseason to tell us otherwise.

I hate to use Tony Romo as an example for commitment, but he paid $9K to a guy because he backed out of a celebrity golf outing to attend voluntary OTAs with the Cowboys. You can of course say he never should have agreed to play in the Pro-Am, but Romo will not be learning a new offense this year, and had a much better season than Young did last season. He knows he has lots of work to do, and is doing everything he can to become better.

by mgrex03 on May 27, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

"Why in the world is he not spending every day working with him,..."

VY scheduled his classes at UT on Monday and Tuesday so that he could fly into Nashville and work one-on-one with ‘Dinger for the rest of the week. He’s shown commitment to the team. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t make it any less true.

Vince is doing fine this off season and he’s finally learning from a NFL offensive coordinator, not a college guy. I get the feeling you’ll see a lot of doubter quieted over the next few years.

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 7:57 AM EDT up 0 recs

Lucky

It’s a good thing Vince Young is a talented athlete because he would be a bum if he was a normal person. Seriously, hard work? Pressure? You don’t have a family to support. You are paid millions. If you don’t do well, you get cut and still have your 18 million dollar guaranteed contract. VY doesn’t know pressure. The media is in love with him. Where is the pressure coming from? I haven’t heard anyone in the media besides Merrill Hoge bash VY. I’m happy I called him as a bust when he was drafted. I love being right. I also called Reggie Bush, but that was out of pure hatred of him.

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by Colts Homer on May 27, 2008 1:36 PM EDT 0 recs

I have a family that I support. Not sure what your point there is.

I’m also not sure how Romo’s attendance rate is relevant, but if it makes you fell any better, I personally paid a charity an extra $100 when I had to back out of a recent triathlon. I mean, I’m no Romo, but that seems about as relevant.

At any rate, Vince has been at the Titans OTAs.

DannoE

Go read FRIDAY MAD SCIENCE at www.paperbackreader.com
Go Titans!

by DannoE on May 27, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up 0 recs

What I'm Saying Is

The pressure of Vince Young’s job compared to a normal person is miniscule, since he still has 18 million no matter what he does and no one depends on him.

coltshomer.blogspot.com=my blog, Pro-Colts Stuff. Check it out.

by Colts Homer on May 27, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

BBS

Hi, BBS

This is the fan formerly on Stampede Blue as Titansfan10 anyway, just wanted to say you are a great guy, and I can’t wait to bring this article back up at the end of this upcoming season.

Have a good on colts fans!

Someone once said "Vince Young bleeds two toned blue!" But I disagree, because The Great One Doesnt Bleed!!

by Vincanity on May 27, 2008 1:38 PM EDT 0 recs

If Vince Young plays well

I encourage you to do so. I’ll even front page it, with a picture of me with a little “dunce” cap on.

Please make an account and post a diary, add some comments, and make some noise. Accounts are free, and only require an email address.

by BigBlueShoe on May 27, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

A sample of VY's offseason workout plan

Vince Young’s White Tee Party @ the ROC Wednesdays – 5.14.08

Vince Young’s Invite Only Pool Party at the Westside Tennis Club – 5.15.08

Vince Young’s Birthday Weekend KickOff Party & Premiere of the iBar – 5.16.08

Vince, Shawn Marion & Jevon Kearse host Baby Blue Carpet Affair @ Club Level – 5.17.08

Vince Young Bday BBQ Cookout & Daytime party at the Red Door – 5.18.08

Lil Wayne, Lloyd, Mannie Fresh, Lil Keke at Vince Young Bday Bash at BAR RIO – 5.18.08

link

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by shake n bake on May 27, 2008 3:17 PM EDT 0 recs

Vince Young deserves

5 years of immunity from criticism based solely on the fact that he gave the world the greatest college performance in the history of the game.

So what if he doesn’t really start producing…? Why waste your breath criticising him? As division rivals Colts fans should be happy if this is nothing but a Titans organization multi-year mistake. But I don’t think it is – time will show us.

And give us all a break with the “whining” crap. Everyone goes through tough times that make them question the decisions they’ve made in life; if you don’t think Vince Young faces tremendous pressure, you’re ignorant. And just because someone earns a lot of money doesn’t mean that they deserve to endure unlimited amounts of pain and keep their mouth shut about it. If you’re envious about his income, then go find something you’re good at and try to make some money yourself… Vince’s income is really none of your business. The only people I’ve ever heard “call out” pro athletes for earning too much money usually spend their days sitting in some cubicle wasting their lives answering phones for 35K a year. And if that’s your beef, then maybe you should spend less time worrying about football, and invest in yourself.

Lastly, I forecast right now that the Colts have come and gone as a powerhouse; we have seen them peak and we are about to witness the decline of a once great team. Good run while it lasted boys, prepare to be depressed for years to come.

by BeansCarter on May 27, 2008 5:46 PM EDT 0 recs

Great stuff!

Wow five years of immunity eh and saying that the Colts are in “decline” all in one article! This stuff is freaking rich!

Also, BBS wasn’t calling our athletes for making too much money. He was calling our an athlete (read singular) by the name of Vince Young who just happens to make too much money because he is…

A. Unproductive

B. A whiny bitch

Seems like a solid argument to me.

As for us being in “decline” I will make you Titans fans the same promise I made the Texans fans; if you guys sweep us next year I will eat my keyboard with tartar sauce. That is a promise!

Also, we can’t be in decline and you in ascent when we draft quality guys and you draft the Pacman Jones and Vince Young’s of this world. Anyways I look forward to sweeping you next year!

Peace

by MasterRWayne on May 28, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up 0 recs

So you're telling me

That you are willing to bet the house on an unproven, unorthodox NFL QB in Vince Young…yet, you are not willing to do that with a 2-time NFL MVP, Super Bowl MVP, and one who currently several QB records? Haha, you’re opinion should just be filed away in the ignorant folder.

by yellowsnow on May 28, 2008 7:43 AM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah an NFL team should

pay a player 50 million dollars and rest their hopes of winning on a guy for at least 5 years because he was great in college, without questioning it at all.
The Chargers should have given Ryan Leaf at least 3 more years. He was awesome in college, he finished 3rd in the heisman. There is no doubt in my mind that the right thing for the Chargers to do was to pay Leaf another 15 million and rest their hopes on him for another 3 years.

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by shake n bake on May 28, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up 0 recs

That was profound

the teams that drafted Ryan Leaf and VY were stupid to give them a contract based on their college performance.

What about the team that drafted Peyton Manning? Oh, they could see into the future.

Nice hindsight there.

by gramsey712 on May 28, 2008 11:30 AM EDT up 0 recs

wow

I was pointing out how ridiculous the 5 year grace period suggested above was. Not saying you should base draft decisions on college production. A great college career should get someone drafted, that’s it. It shouldn’t decide how long until you give up on a guy. That’s a NFL production thing.

Draft a QB because of his college performance. You can do a pretty good job separating 1st round busts from stars just with completion % and # of starts.

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by shake n bake on May 28, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up 0 recs

Ya'll don't know Beans

We love him, but half the stuff he says is facetious.

I do agree with you though—5 years maybe a little much.

But I also think that VY came into a situation where he was not going to succeed. Norm Chow tried to force VY to run his offense, instead of altering his offense to his players. That is why he is back in college.

I am willing to give VY another chance with the coordinator that developed McNair into a stud.

If Heimerdinger can’t do it—then I will admit defeat.

by gramsey712 on May 28, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up 0 recs

Now there

is a rational comment.

by ctnyc on May 28, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up 0 recs

McNair A Stud?

You can’t be writing that w/a straight face.

by TouchdownMonkey on May 28, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

If you're going to dog McNair, you better watch it.

His numbers matched John Elway for most of their careers

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

Alright Shithead

Now you’re gonna get stupid.

by gramsey712 on May 28, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up 0 recs

McNair OK

McNair was simply OK. Not great. Not a stud.

by TouchdownMonkey on May 28, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

not.taking.your.bait.

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

can't seem to make it work... out....

Ok, I hear you. Whining about a NFL quarterback’s income is pointless, and very often a sign of jealousy, and sure Vince Young is under a lot of pressure, but I think the point is that the pressure on Vince Young is amplified by his incredible poor judgment both on and off the field. (Especially on it.) It’s the same frustration my son had when learning to tie his shoes. He simply couldn’t figure it out… Come to think of it maybe it will take him 5 years. And you bet your life I’m thankful to face him 2 times a season.

by borninblue on May 27, 2008 6:40 PM EDT 0 recs

oh yeah

And just like my son in the end Billy Volek was there to show him how to lace em up’

by borninblue on May 27, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up 0 recs

I Am Not Whining About His Income

I am saying that there are much worse situations that someone can be in and that the pressure is not at the height it can be at. If anything, saying this will increase pressure.

Salaries are paid by the company’s income and supply and demand. Whining about salaries is pointless, and most salaries are justified.

coltshomer.blogspot.com=my blog, Pro-Colts Stuff. Check it out.

by Colts Homer on May 27, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

WOW

No better way to bring out the trolls than bash VY.

I also blog at Speed Blue Nation

by Bullard47 on May 27, 2008 8:34 PM EDT 0 recs

no better way to show you're a troll than crap on a guy who has played about 10 bad

games in his entire lifetime.

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 8:07 AM EDT up 0 recs

13 NFL games with a QB rating under 65

8 with a QB rating under 50

7 NFL games with a QB rating over 90

No one is saying he wasn’t a great college player (I even rooted for him because I hated the way ESPN was all over USC’s junk).
But since he made it to the NFL he’s had more awful games than great ones and more bad games the mediocre performances.

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by shake n bake on May 28, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up 0 recs

QB ratings will never tell the whole story

It’s a borderline useless tool as any statistician will tell you, and that’s even more so the case when the QB scrambles regularly… sometimes 60 yards for the OT win.

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up 0 recs

Well

Falcons fans said the same about Vick. Look at where they got them.

by MasterRWayne on May 28, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

I didn't realize felony convictions were part of the formula.

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up 0 recs

There are better tools

but QB rating is the most universally used, available and understood. I think it shows pretty clearly that he’s not been a good passer by any means.

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 28, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

he's not consistent yet, but lets see what happens the next 2 years before we close the book

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up 0 recs

This is why

the Titans fans hate us.

by coltsfanawalt on May 27, 2008 9:22 PM EDT 0 recs

yes. yes it is

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 8:05 AM EDT up 0 recs

No

They hate us because we OWN them and the division.

by MasterRWayne on May 28, 2008 10:51 AM EDT up 0 recs

No, not really. 'coltsfanawait' was much closer to the truth, chief.

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 11:02 AM EDT up 0 recs

True Dat

coltshomer.blogspot.com=my blog, Pro-Colts Stuff. Check it out.

by Colts Homer on May 28, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up 0 recs

Wow, Peter King said a negative comment about Young? He’s been sucking him since he got drafted.

by MrNFL on May 27, 2008 9:28 PM EDT 0 recs

I am glad...

I am glad you Titans have Vince Young. It ensures a good 4-5 years of wasted seasons.

Also, if the Titans thought so highly of Young then why haven’t they brought in any receivers via the draft or free agency? Instead they have focused on their line and running game because Fisher knows they have to win in spite of Vince Young not because of him. Just remember Fisher wanted to draft Leinart it was only when the dumb ass owner stepped in that the Titans went with Young.

But the Titans loss is our gain!

by MasterRWayne on May 28, 2008 12:55 AM EDT 0 recs

Are we still talking about this?

Man, when’s the OJ Simpson/Marvin Harrison “Find the REAL Shooters!” Cuise? That’s what I really want to know.

DannoE

Go read FRIDAY MAD SCIENCE at www.paperbackreader.com
Go Titans!

by DannoE on May 28, 2008 10:11 AM EDT 0 recs

We'll start the cause

When Marvin is actually charged with committing a crime.

Bullets Forever: Where fancy numbers and YouTube come together.

by JakeTheSnake on May 28, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up 0 recs

Marvin wasn’t involved with any shooting. Let’s wait and see if there is anything to draw him to the shooting.

coltshomer.blogspot.com=my blog, Pro-Colts Stuff. Check it out.

by Colts Homer on May 28, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah

and Pacman doesn’t like to hang out at strip clubs.

by gramsey712 on May 28, 2008 11:31 AM EDT up 0 recs

Pacman

has been spotted at strip clubs and charged with crimes. Marvin was not spotted at the sight of the shooting and hasn’t been charged with anything. This is what happens when you listen to ESPN. You think VY is good and Marvin is a thug. It’s a shame.

coltshomer.blogspot.com=my blog, Pro-Colts Stuff. Check it out.

by Colts Homer on May 28, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up 0 recs

So I think

Shooter is a thug? Now you’re psychic.

by gramsey712 on May 28, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up 0 recs

Really?

All the Colt’s fans are passing judgement after year 2?

Did the same apply for:

Throw a dart at a list of every prolific quarterback in NFL history and you’ll find that about half took two-three years to develop. Give this kid a break.

by SuperHorn on May 28, 2008 10:29 AM EDT 0 recs

True

Development usually takes 2-4 years for a QB. However, you can always see signs of improvement, accuracy and strength. While Vince Young has all the physical tools to be an NFL QB he has none of the mental tools nor the accuracy to be anything more than a backup in this league at this point. Throwing 9 TD’s last year is laughably low. Manning has thrown almost as many (6) in some single games!

by MasterRWayne on May 28, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up 0 recs

2-4 years: So shut up, sit back and see how he does with an NFL caliber coordinator

Chow’s scheme sucked in the NFL before Vince got here, but now we have a guy who will work wonders with him. VY will never do what Manning does in the stats sheet, but Manning can’t do what VY does when he’s on…

By the way, Terry Bradshaw is not impressed by your judgments of a QB’s mental tools.

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 28, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up 0 recs

Was He Impressed By

His Hall of Fame running back, receiver, defense, and offensive line? Stick any QB and the Steelers would have won a number of Super Bowls.

What does VY do when he is on? Win playoff games (no). Doesn’t throw INTs (no). Just accept you guys drafted a bust and look towards free agency. Matt Stafford looks like a good pick next year.

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by Colts Homer on May 28, 2008 11:30 AM EDT up 0 recs