Trades take time. As long as this idiot is still on the titans, they have no shot. None. Zero. Subjectively, I want Vince Young to stay because the Colts defense pummels him. However, if I were a Titans fan, I’d want him gone NOW!

Except for the part that Peyton Manning set rookie records for yards, completions and touchdowns and he did all of this with a very bad team. Also, in his second year he threw for 4.135 yards and 26 td’s. In those 16 games Manning almost has as many yards and td’s as Vince Young has had in 32 games so please don’t even try to compare Manning with Vince Young.

What evidence do you have of this? All I’ve seen is pictures of him getting drunk with his buddies this off-season. Please point me to something saying how he’s coming along with the new offense.

Supposedly the reason for Young’s bad season was Norm Chow, correct? And there is a new offensive coordinator this year, correct? Why in the world is he not spending every day working with him, learning this new offense. He obviously has more talent than many NFL players, and still believes that talent alone will win NFL games. This is a lesson he has not learned yet, and I don’t see anything he’s done this offseason to tell us otherwise.

I hate to use Tony Romo as an example for commitment, but he paid $9K to a guy because he backed out of a celebrity golf outing to attend voluntary OTAs with the Cowboys. You can of course say he never should have agreed to play in the Pro-Am, but Romo will not be learning a new offense this year, and had a much better season than Young did last season. He knows he has lots of work to do, and is doing everything he can to become better.

I’m also not sure how Romo’s attendance rate is relevant, but if it makes you fell any better, I personally paid a charity an extra $100 when I had to back out of a recent triathlon. I mean, I’m no Romo, but that seems about as relevant.

At any rate, Vince has been at the Titans OTAs.

I encourage you to do so. I’ll even front page it, with a picture of me with a little “dunce” cap on.

And just like my son in the end Billy Volek was there to show him how to lace em up’

I am saying that there are much worse situations that someone can be in and that the pressure is not at the height it can be at. If anything, saying this will increase pressure.

Salaries are paid by the company’s income and supply and demand. Whining about salaries is pointless, and most salaries are justified.

games in his entire lifetime.

When Marvin is actually charged with committing a crime.

Marvin wasn’t involved with any shooting. Let’s wait and see if there is anything to draw him to the shooting.

Development usually takes 2-4 years for a QB. However, you can always see signs of improvement, accuracy and strength. While Vince Young has all the physical tools to be an NFL QB he has none of the mental tools nor the accuracy to be anything more than a backup in this league at this point. Throwing 9 TD’s last year is laughably low. Manning has thrown almost as many (6) in some single games!

or it didn’t happen

Vince Young is not even in the same freaking universe as Steve Young! One guy was very accurate, smart and only ran when we had no other option. The other guy thinks the NFL is a game of back yard football. But you know go ahead and defend your loser QB because, as I said previously, the fact that he is your QB helps the Colts out.

As for receivers its true that Vince Young does not have a great receiving core, but he does have a great O-line which is far more important for a QB. Yet despite solid protection he is still not very accurate.

Oh and I love how you guys blame everything on Chow! Its like the Titans are the new Falcons (circa 2001) when their blamed all of Vicks sucky performances on their "offensive system." If Vince Young can’t run a pro-offense, which he can’t, then he is nothing more than a backup.

completed only 63% of his passes. Last year it was 69%.
There were only 3 QBs with passer ratings in the 90s in 86, last year there were 3 with QB ratings over 100 and 8 over 90.
The passing game has gotten better (rule changes and the west coast offense).

They should have cut Steve Young.

There is no way he could ever be a franchise quarterback.

Read the very first paragraph of the story again. Find something factually incorrect. BBS used statistics (which are not very good), and provided 5 articles of things Young has done. He also was, in fact, on the sideline when the Titans won in Week 17, clinching a playoff berth.

He’s also exactly right in that every indication seems as though he doesn’t want to put in the work to get better. While it is certainly up for argument, let’s say for argument’s sake he has the most talent in the NFL. You will get many different people’s opinion on this, but it is certainly possible that player is Vince Young, and nobody here has said anything to the contrary about his physical abilities. His problem, and I said this earlier, is that he thinks he can win football games in the NFL purely on athletic ability.

‘Norm Chow kept trying to run an offense not suited for Young’ has been the most common excuse, and I bet there is some truth to that. However, Chow does run an NFL offense, which works very well with a passing quarterback, which he did not have in 3 seasons in Tennessee. I ask you, what makes you think Heimerdinger’s offense will be suited for Young? Is he going to let Young “dance?” What, from his previous stint as OC for the Titans, makes you think Young will succeed? He took over an offense that was already in the Top 10 in the NFL, and kept it there, which is a good sign. However, from 2001-2003, they were ranked 4th, 7th, and 1st in passing offense, which is the reason they were in the Top 10 in offense. McNair was worlds better at throwing the football than Young is.

I find it rather humorous that Titan fans talk about how Chow ran a “college” offense. The offense Young ran at UT was a “college” offense, and obviously he was fantastic at it. He was the best athlete on the field for every game he played in, and if he didn’t find his first, or maybe second option open, he’d take off for a 10 yard gain. That works great in college, but not in the NFL. Defenses adjust so much more quickly.

Also, you mentioned nobody came here with hyperbole about how great Young is? Nearly every quarterback mentioned in the “he was bad his first 2 years too” is in, or will be in the Hall of Fame. I could list you hundreds of quarterbacks who were bad their first two years, and they stayed bad. Again, Young’s talent alone will not make him a 4 year washout in the NFL. However, if he cannot come to grips on the mental demand of the position of quarterback in the NFL, he will not be a success, no matter if he is the most physically gifted player in the NFL.

The Colts are a class organization and I love that we get to compete against you guys in the best division in football every year!

Yes Vince Young could develop just as Rex Grossman could develop, but I fell very safe in wagering that neither of those guys will work out in the NFL. Now sometimes you have a guy that struggles a bit, gets cut and resurects himself later on just like Rich Gannon did. But even in his early days Gannon showed accuracy and skills and I do not see that with Vince Young. Combine that with the retirement talk, punching players and missing team meeting… etc and you have a picture of a emotionally immature person who is not ready for the big time.

But hey what is really great for us Colts fans is that you Titans fans have a MASSIVE hardon for Vince Young and its like the scenario when the ugly dude dates the hot chick and he gets all excited just to see the pretty girl skip town with all of this money.

That is what is going to happen to you Titans fans. Its what happened to Falcons fans and I am going to enjoy every minute of it.