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Vince Young now says the retirement talk was wrong, but not really

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More fun from Vince Young. Last week he said his rookie year (which produced a Rookie of the Year award and a Pro Bowl nod) was so stressful for him that he nearly retired. Now, Vince is saying he never really planned to hang them up. OK, I guess that means that NFL.com writer Thomas George misquoted Vince when he wrote this:

At age 24 -- only one year into his NFL career -- [Vince Young] said he considered retirement.

"I really thought long and hard about it," Young said on Thursday after practice. "There was so much going on with my family. It was crazy being an NFL quarterback. It wasn't fun anymore. All of the fun was out of it. All of the excitement was gone. All I was doing was worrying about things.

"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."

So yeah, looks like Thomas George pulled a John Tomase, right? I mean, that has to be a misquote, because it states pretty clearly that Vince Young considered retirement. Vince even said he thought "long and hard about it." Well, no. Vince wasn't misquoted. He just said something stupid, again:

In an interview with the Tennessean on Thursday, one week after Young told an NFL.com reporter that he thought about hanging it up after his rookie season, Young said that while the pressures of being a quarterback are pretty intense, he never really planned to quit.

"I was never going to quit football,'' Young said. "Football, that is my pride and joy, it is my dream. I am playing my dream. And I don't plan on giving that up any time soon.''
But at the same time, Young didn't say that he was misquoted in last week's story, when he said that he thought long and hard about retiring. Now he's saying that everything had been "blown out of proportion." It seems that the pressure and constant attention that came with being the Titans' star made for a tough adjustment.

OK Vince, you need to make up your mind. You lied in one of those interviews; either the one with NFL.com or the one Thursday with the Tennessean. You cannot one minute say you contemplated retirement and in, in two days later, say you never planned to do it. Either Thomas George misquoted Vince (which Vince says he didn't) or Vince is lying to the Tennessean about his retirement talk.

You can't have it both ways.

At this point it's moot. Who cares if Vince Young wants to retire or not. The point is this is yet another example of Vince Young's utter and complete stupidity. For people like me, it provides enjoyable entertainment. For Titans fans, I offer up the same warning I gave Jaguars fans regarding Byron Leftwich: Vince Young lacks the mental toughness to quarterback your team.

Oh, and he's a complete dumb ass to boot.

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I will say it again...

The Titans are like the Falcons circa 2001-2002. This is because…

1. They worship their QB despite his sub-par play
2. Both QB’s can’t throw accurately
3. Titans fans, just like Falcons fans did, blame all of their offensive woes on their offensive coordinator. Both Chow and Knapp tried to “limit” their respective QB’s by, and here’s the shocker, trying to teach them to throw the football with accuracy and precise timing.
4. Titans fans think their QB will “revolutionize the position” despite the fact that every successful QB in the NFL has had good accuracy and arm strength. Just look at Brady and Manning who are two of the best. They have great accuracy and arm strength, but can’t run that fast. In the end speed is just not that important for a QB.
5. Both Mike Vick and Vince Young are DUMB and have no idea how to lead their team with class and dignity. Now I am not saying that Vince Young is a “dog fighter” or a “pot head” but I will say that he lacks the cognitive skills to run a pro offense and doesn’t seem like he is really serious about treating his job as an actual career. He seems to treat it like a backyard game of football during Memorial Day in which his “skills” alone will make up the difference between victory and defeat. I hate to break it to Vince Young and his Titan “fan boys” but pretty much every player on the Colts defense is as fast or faster than he is so scrambling around is just going to get him hurt and leave the Colts with another win. That, of course, is why “VY” is ultimately a good thing for us Colts fans.

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 12:25 PM EDT   0 recs

It's not Vince's fault you guys are too dumb

to understand the difference between ‘thinking about’ something and ‘planning to do’ something.

Our best pick-up this off-season has been 'Dinger. Go Titans!

by August West on May 30, 2008 1:00 PM EDT   0 recs

And they don't know the difference

between “worship” and “not ready to cut him after only two years.”

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 1:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And

why are you guys so wrapped around the axle about this anyway?

Is there nothing else to do in Indianapolis?

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 1:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My Take

I’ve never thought Vince Young would be a good pro along with other QBs who made their name with their feet and not with their arm. Vince Young has always been innaccurate, and he now shows the lack of judgment to go out partying and getting shitfaced. It’s fine to go to a bar and not cause trouble, but getting as drunk as he looked in that picture shirtless, that’s embarrassing. Vince Young has never been the QB everyone thought he was. People didn’t realize the talent surrounding him at Texas was probably the best outside of USC, the other school who has sent bust after bust after bust to the pros.

Leadership is the most overrated “attribute” in pro football. What makes leadership and clutch ability? Did Vince Young make the 60 yard field goal against the Colts in 2006? No. Did Peyton Manning miss the easy kick in the 2006 playoffs? No. So why is Peyton a choker and VY the king of clutch? Simple. The media loves VY, and they should. He’s a big name who was great in college and won a championship. Now that he is clearly not the player everyone thought he was going to be, they are trying to hang on to that. Peyton Manning had a crappy defense up until 2005, so he never could win a playoff game because of that. The media got on his back for no good reason, so the choker tag was applied even when the loss was out of his hands.

I consider myself a pretty damn good draft analyst mostly because of precedent. I consider QB my best position to analyze. I love it when I call busts like VInce Young. Now Jay Cutler needs to do well, as I said he was by far the best QB in the 2006 class. Lienart and Young have done their part of being busts, now Cutler needs to do his part.

coltshomer.blogspot.com=my blog, Pro-Colts Stuff. Check it out.

by Colts Homer on May 30, 2008 1:10 PM EDT   0 recs

So you are mad at Vince

because the media likes him more than Peyton?

That makes sense.

And how is that Cutler thing working out for you?

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 1:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And I still

don’t understand how the fuck you can call someone a bust after TWO SEASONS.

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 1:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually

I think Cutler’s working out well. I expect he’ll have a productive season.

by TouchdownMonkey on May 30, 2008 1:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As I expect

Vince will have a productive season.

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 1:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cutler

297-467 63.6% 3497 20TD 14INT 88.1QB rating 7.5YPA 11.8YPC
Young
238-382 62.3% 2546 9TD 17INT 71.1QB rating 6.7YPA 10.7YPC

So Cutler wins in every aspect of passing the football

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 30, 2008 1:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

BIll Walsh?

but seriously, he didn’t have a huge jump from his rookie season. Completion % up 4 points, TD:INT ratio was similar, Yards per attempt and per completion were about the same. His QB rating actually dropped by .4.

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 30, 2008 1:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

splitting hairs

I’d say from the comments that he thought about retiring but he didn’t make the decision to retire then change his mind and play.

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 30, 2008 1:40 PM EDT   0 recs

If you actually read the article instead of the drivel BBS passes for this 'analysis'

he talks about is commitment to winning Super Bowls, the coping mechanisms he’s created to help bond with his teammates and his drive to improve.

Nice to see that wasn’t mentioned at all. Tagging this post as analysis is like calling masturbation getting laid.

by August West on May 30, 2008 1:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OK, seriously

Why such a hard-on for Vince Young?

Does it make ya’ll feel better to bash him? Do you have to be a Vince Young basher to like the Colts? If that’s the case, then I will leave it alone. Because it’s not looking like we are gonna change your mind.

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 1:43 PM EDT   0 recs

We bash him because...

Because he sucks and we love the fact that the Titans are going to be bad-mediocre for at least 3-4 more years! It makes winning the AFC South that much easier.

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 2:29 PM EDT   0 recs

So you bash

him because you think that him playing makes it easier for the Colts to win?

Once again, you make a whole lot of sense.

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 2:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh and...

We can call Vince Young a bust after two seasons because…

1. He has failed to improve
2. Failed to mature
3. Punched players
4. Left games before they were over (remember that first Colts game last year where Bob Sanders laid the smack down on him?)
5. Talks smack that he can’t back up (see Bob Sanders again. Bob said,

“That’s how people get hurt … We’re after you. You know what I’m saying? I told him, ‘If I was you, I’d be quiet.’ ... “I didn’t think that was smart on his part … He was running around talking and clapping and chanting. I’m like, ‘Look, we’re hitting you. Are you serious? You’re going to start acting like that?’”

6. Costly penalties (see throwing the football at Kelvin Hayden last year that cost his team)

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 2:34 PM EDT   0 recs

1. The team and VY have taken steps improve this year, as opposed to last year when no weapons were available to him and the OC/play calling sucked… even still he had a higher completion .
2. That’s VERY debatable.
3. He hit Donnie Nikey on the helmet in the pre-season. So what? Donnie didn’t care, the coaches didn’t care and nobody on the team got mad. It’s not the first time a teammate snapped at Nickey for his over the top practice hits. LenDale nearly killed him 2 years ago.
4 x%x 5. He also played through a lot of pain and made a whole lot of opponents looks real stupid over the past 2 years.

The final analysis, you have no idea of what you speak.

by August West on May 30, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh and...

He fumbles A LOT

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 2:35 PM EDT   0 recs

The list of QBs who fumbled more in 2007

Jon Kitna
Eli Manning
Jason Campbell
Kurt Warner
Jay Cutler
Philip Rivers
Josh McCown
Tony Romo

by August West on May 30, 2008 2:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jay Cutler!!!!!

Say it ain’t so!!!!!

He’s not a bust!!!!!

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 3:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And he only fumbled 1 more time than these QBs

Ben Roethlisberger
Drew Brees
Donovan McNabb
Matt Hasselbeck
Brett Favre

by August West on May 30, 2008 2:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Selective Stats

Eli Manning had 13 fumbles last year which was a career high for him. The other QB’s you listed either…

A. Fumble all the time just like Vince Young (see Kurt Warner)
B. Had career years in regards to fumbles

Regardless of how you judge it 10 fumbles is a lot of fumbles and the year prior to that he had 12 fumbles. The other QB’s on the list, such as Eli Manning and Tony Romo, have fumbling problems, but they are still far superior to Vince Young because they are more accurate and can actually run a pro offense.

Its amazing how you “fan boys” defend your loser QB!

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 3:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So in summation, about 1/2 the QBs in the league, including 3 of the 4 conference championship QBs

can’t hold on to the damned ball either by your standards.

Check your stats next time chief.

by August West on May 30, 2008 2:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn't he 2-2 against the Colts?

And only a dropped pass away from the field goal attempt at 3-1?

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 2:39 PM EDT   0 recs

a missed 60 yard FG

and a second half with the Colts playing their starters from 0-4

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 30, 2008 3:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Touche!

That really didn’t mean anything. I’m more of a team person.

I just typed that to get ya’ll going, and I expected more of a vitriolic response!

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 3:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It is sad to see

a poor writer bash an athlete in order to generate hits for his website. But hey, mission accomplished. Congrats. I saw that there was a news article about Vince, and I came straight to your site, sure that there would be a new hate-filled rant. And there was. Is this a Colts blog, or is this an anti-Vince blog? It gets tough to tell.

At any rate, well done on getting more traffic to stampedeblue.com. You’ve successfully achieved the same thing that the shouting matches between ESPN analysts do: nothing.

by ctex80 on May 30, 2008 3:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow thanks!

If you don’t like it ctex80 then leave. You are a douche anyway!

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 3:19 PM EDT   0 recs

haha

You just called someone a douche! Self-ban!

Go Colts!

by KingRichard on May 30, 2008 3:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

If mouthbreathing douchecanoe doesn’t get a ban (and it shouldn’t because it’s hilarious) then I don’t think douche does.

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 30, 2008 3:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You grasp at those straws Titans fans!

Btw, that whole “Is this a Colts blog or…” argument is old and tired. That’s what all the moronic Pats fans use. The least you could do is be original.

Go Colts!

by KingRichard on May 30, 2008 3:19 PM EDT   0 recs

So ya'll

are saying that there is no chance that the Titans beat the Colts this year?

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 3:25 PM EDT   0 recs

There is a chance but...

Listen lets go through by position and see who has the advantage…

1. QB- Colts by a large margin
2. RB- Colts
3. WR- Colts
4. TE- Colts by a large margin
5. OL- Tie (maybe slight advantage to the Titans)
6. DE- Colts
7. DT- Slight edge to Titans
8. LB- Colts
9. CB- Colts
10. S- Colts by a large margin
11. K-Tie
12. Punter- Who cares

So in virtually every category the Colts have a significant advantage so it will be very hard for the Titans to win this year.

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 3:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Then why

have 3 of the last 4 (not counting the last game last year that was only a game for a half) been so close.

I mean with that kind of advantage, ya’ll should be killing us!

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 3:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sorry if that

argument is “old and tired”. Haven’t been reading this blog for very long. How many different fan bases have to mention it before you think they might, just maybe, be on to something?

I love the “if you don’t like it ctex80 then leave” approach, Master. And the “you are a douche anyway” part really put me in my place. Equally compelling arguments.

by ctex80 on May 30, 2008 3:31 PM EDT   0 recs

"Old and tired"

The reason that the “Isn’t this a Colts site? Shouldn’t you be talking about the Colts?” argument is old and tired is because of the lack of imagination of the people who make it. What exactly would you (and others) suggest—that we limit the posts on this site to strictly Colts news and ignore stories about our biggest rivals and the NFL in general? If that’s the kind of sports blog you want, then fine. Do it on your own site. Around here, many of us believe that big news stories from our rivals and the NFL in general affect our team. The Colts don’t play in a vacuum, after all. We are rabid sports fans who, unlike some fans I could mention, are intersted not only in our own team, but also in the league and the game in general. When the Michael Vick thing went down, we talked about it. When the Patriots lost the Super Bowl, we talked about it. And now when the QB of a nasty division rival says something stupid, we’re gonna talk about it.

This is what sports blogs are all about. Look at how much discussion these last two VY threads have engendered: well over 200 comments combined! And while there’s been a lot of vitriol and name-calling thrown around, there’s also been a lot of interesting and very illuminating debate which has been well-supported with stats, quotes, and links to articles. I myself have learned several things, including a couple of names I didn’t expect to see in the QB fumbles list. I can’t think of a better microcosm of the passionate, well-supported, entertaining debate that makes a good sports blog than these discussions.

To try to shut that down by saying that this site should stick to the boring choice of covering the Colts and only the Colts seems to me to be the equivalent of threatening to take your toys and go home.

by ctnyc on May 30, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

there's a difference you're missing between 'coverage'

and ‘flinging open the door and taking a dump on a player just because BBS likes to distort and twist stories to piss people off.’

I’m out. This blog has the class of Fox News and the intelligence of Highlights for Children. Thanks for proving the meme correct that anonymity makes most people childish.

You guys have fun watching your team get old and getting your ass beat over the next decade by the Titans and VY.

by August West on May 30, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

old?
The Colts are the second-youngest team in the NFL

link, scroll to January 15th

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 30, 2008 4:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow

He really is taking his toys and going home.

by ctnyc on May 30, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They've started

They’ve started taking jabs at us over on MusicCityMiracles.

by TouchdownMonkey on May 30, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well that's fair

That’s their site.

by ctnyc on May 30, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Division

Division opponents should, and usually are, tough and close because the other team knows you so well.

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 3:31 PM EDT   0 recs

But I guess we could still agree

to disagree.

I just don’t understand the hate for Vince Young.

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 3:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

because

he makes ur team worse than they are. you would be better off with volek back in there

by skywalker on May 30, 2008 3:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So ya'll

keep dogging him because he makes your opponent worse?

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

we need

competition

by skywalker on May 30, 2008 3:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

Listen, BBS and I hate Vince Young so much because of all the hype for a guy that is simple not that good. Sure Vince Young may develop that way just as Reggie Bush may develop one day, but it is not looking that way for either player.

The Titans have some solid pieces and you have one of the best coaches in the league. Vince Young makes your time worse. Kerry Collins is a better QB and even he is not that good.

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 3:36 PM EDT   0 recs

All the hype?

Colts fans hate a player for being “over hyped”? Really?

And if we have one of the best coaches in the league, wouldn’t he start the best qb that he has?

by ctex80 on May 30, 2008 3:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Glad

Glad you mentioned that because its worth noting that Fisher never wanted Young; he preferred Leinart and Cutler.

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 3:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You were comparing Young to Collins

That is what I was responding to. One at a time, kids.

by ctex80 on May 30, 2008 3:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Come on Master!

Like Shake n Bake says “link it or it didn’t happen”

I personally still have not see Coach Fisher quoted that he wanted Leinert Or Cutler.

by gramsey712 on May 30, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In 14 years

including with the Oilers and when in the AFC Central division, Jeff Fisher has only managed to be in the top 2 6/14 times. has only won the division twice in 14 YEARS. he’s not that good

by skywalker on May 30, 2008 3:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

also

has been a .500 team or less in 9/14 years

by skywalker on May 30, 2008 3:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Your boy

MasterRWayne said he was one of the best coaches in the league, not I. While I like Fisher, I’m not trying to make a case for his credentials.

by ctex80 on May 30, 2008 3:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Also for the price of Vince Young...

All the money you guys pay Vince Young and for the same price the Colts get…

1. Ed Johnson
2. Freddie Keiaho
3. Gary Brackett
4. Tayjuan Hagler
5. Marlin Jackson
6. Kelvin Hayden
7. Antoine Bethea (a pro bowler)
8. Jeff Saturday (pro bowler)

Also in the 2006 draft instead of Young you could have gotten…

AJ Hawk
Ernie Simms
Jay Cutler
Antonio Cromartie
Joseph Addai
DeMeco Ryans

All of those players are currently better than Vince Young.

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 3:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Good for you?

Fail to see the point here.

And Tom Brady would have been the first overall pick.

Aren’t time machines wonderful?

by ctex80 on May 30, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

For my citation

See…

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/NFL_Czar/Reggie_Bush/6684

Leinart, however, was the choice of Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher and GM Floyd Reese. But Titans owner Bud Adams told his coach and personnel man to draft Texas quarterback Vince Young even though Leinart was rated higher on the final Tennessee draft board. Adams, who moved his team from Houston to Nashville in 1997, wanted Young, his hometown kid.

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 3:49 PM EDT   0 recs

I would rather have Vince than Leinart. No Contest.

And I think a number of Titans fans would agree with that.

by ctex80 on May 30, 2008 3:52 PM EDT   0 recs

As

As Bill Polian said…

“If you start listening to fans pretty soon you will start sitting with them.”

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 3:54 PM EDT   0 recs

No answer

You still didn’t answer my point; are all of these players worse than Vince Young?

AJ Hawk
Ernie Simms
Jay Cutler
Antonio Cromartie
Joseph Addai
DeMeco Ryans

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 3:55 PM EDT   0 recs

I would rather have Vince than all of these players, yes.

Without Vince, Kerry Collins would be our starting qb. I think that the best long term investment is Vince, in that I believe he has the most potential. While this is obviously a list of very good – great players, I would rather have Vince because the only other QB on the list is Cutler, who I don’t think has the same upside as Vince. I know you don’t agree, but do you at least comprehend what I am saying?

by ctex80 on May 30, 2008 3:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Could have traded back for Cutler

and gotten Cutler plus any player taken after #17 (950 points of value on the draft value chart)

that would include
Cromartie (875)
Addai (620)
DeMeco Ryans (580)
Marcus McNeil (400)
Devin Hester (330)
Mo-Jo Drew (300)
Antonie Bethea (8.6)
Marques Colston (1)

So you would rather have Vince Young than:
Jay Cutler and Antonio Cromartie
Jay Cutler, Joseph Addai and Devin Hester
Jay Cutler, Marcus McNeil and MJD
Cutler, Addai and Drew

I won’t even go into the sleeper picks, I’ll just leave it at guys everyone knew would be good.

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 30, 2008 4:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Great post

Great post Shake, as usual.

Titans fans its fairly obvious to see that Vince Young was a pretty pore pick. Yes I know that he has “upside” and whenever I hear this it means, “he is really big and strong and can run fast.” Yet it has been shown time and time again that these “skills” are not essential to a great QB. Manning and Brady are two of the best EVER and they can’t run that fast, but man can they torch you were their arm!

Also Shake you could add Santonio Holmes to that list.

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 4:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Good Call

missed him,

Holmes (720)

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 30, 2008 4:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pretty "pore" Pick? Really?

English, guys, E-N-G-L-I-S-H.

Ok, I’ll try to explain what many others have tried to…

We, the fans of the Tennessee Titans, do not believe that two seasons are enough to evaluate a quarterback’s career. In 4 or 5 years, perhaps we will say that we should have made a different draft choice. Please tell me that you people understand pragmatism.

Shake,

Do you not realize that we could play that game with almost every draft ever? I know that you think you are making a salient point, but it is merely an immature “what if?” scenario that has little purpose in this discussion. We also could have taken Tom Brady with our 1st round pick in 2000 and shocked the world. So what?

by ctex80 on May 30, 2008 4:31 PM EDT   0 recs

that's why I stuck to top guys

Guys like Cutler, Cromartie, Addai, Ryans, MJD, etc were thought to be pretty good even at the time. It’s not like Vince Young had no questions around him and was a clear cut obvious pick at #3. There were questions about Young then like there are now. They could have had a much better draft just with guys that were thought to be top players at the time of the draft.

my blog http://shakennbaken.blogspot.com

by shake n bake on May 30, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Red Herring

Wow thanks for going for spelling when you have nothing else to back the shit that has been spewing from your mouth recently.

Listen, Shake and I have made a series of points regarding how poor the Titans draft was in 2006. In fact, the Titans tend to draft poor overall but that is another story. Bottom line is that your OWNER drafted Vince Young because he would “sell more tickets” not because he was the best player on the board and that is why your organization… SUCKS!

by MasterRWayne on May 30, 2008 4:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good God, boy

You just don’t get it. You cannot accurately evaluate a draft 2 seasons after it occurred!!!!!!
You still have no idea what the legacy of ANY of the players in that draft will be. Do you understand this? What part of this concept eludes you? Maybe I’ll put it in terms you will understand…

Was Peyton Manning’s legacy COMPLETE after 2 years in the league? 5 years? 8 years? Now???

by ctex80 on May 30, 2008 4:41 PM EDT   0 recs