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Kravitz on Dom's Return

Everyone, please read this.

I don't even have the energy to comment on this right now, but someone has to put this out there.  Hopefully BBS grabs a hold of it and smashes it.

But of course, all of your FanPosts must be 75 words long.  Does "a" count? Well then, a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a.

That should do it.

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I don't usually say this

But I don’t see much wrong with what he wrote. What part of the article is unfair or untrue? It’s pretty spot on.

I’m happy Dom’s back (and I really hope he and Joseph can recreate their dominance of the 07 playoffs), but this is exactly what I was talking about a couple of weeks ago. People were calling for KK’s head after his arrest, but everyone seems to want to welcome Dom back with open arms, ignore his past indiscretions, and say “Dom’s a high character guy.” Like I said before, I don’t want to crucify Dom for his past indiscretions, but I think it’s wrong to pretend that he hasn’t had them. Bottom line, if you screw up, and the last thing we fans remember about you is a bad play in a big game, it’s “off with his head,” whereas, if you screw up, and the last thing we fans remember is a dominating performance in a big game, it’s “oh, he just made a mistake or two. Who hasn’t? That’s really no big deal.”

My point was that, the word “classy” gets used on this site nonstop to characterize the Colts. We pride ourselves on the fact that our team employs high character guys, and we don’t have players with off field problems. However, if a player does have off field problems, we are the same as anyone. If the player is good, and we fans believe that he can contribute to the Colts’ success, we are willing to ignore problems. If we believe that the player isn’t as valuable to the team, we use the off field problems as an example of why he shouldn’t be on the team, because “the Colts are above that stuff.” Truth is, our team isn’t a whole lot different than any other team in that category, and we as fans aren’t different than other fans. It’s just that our front office knows that having more high character guys than guys with off field problems usually lends itself to winning. As fans, we are the same. It all comes down to the W’s. If you can help us there, we will make excuses for you. If you don’t, and you’ve displayed poor judgment, you are not up to the standards of a Colt.

The Shogun of Harlem

by shonuff on May 9, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Disclosure: I haven't read the article yet

and I see what you’re saying about fans being willing to let things slide as long as a player can help the team win. But there are certainly matters of degree here. For example, I would guess that those Colts fans who welcome Dom back would shout a resounding “NO” to a Pacman Jones or a Michael Vick signing, even if they were the best available options for the team.

by ctnyc on May 9, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Absolutely. I would agree with you there. I just didn’t see much of a problem with what Kravitz wrote (not normally the case), and I was tying it into my point from a few days ago.

Like I said, I am happy Dom is back, although it is a bit of cautious optimism. Aside from the fact that I’m not absolutely sure he can recapture the magic of the playoff performance 2 years ago, I am at least a bit concerned that he could get in trouble again, which could put the Colts in a tough spot (if he makes the roster and later violates the substance abuse policy, subjecting him to a year suspension.)

The Shogun of Harlem

by shonuff on May 9, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to disagree completely

While I do agree with him that most of the crucification of KK after his arrest is due to him dropping that pass in the playoffs, I think it is baseless to extend that logic into saying: “We don’t care what you’ve done, as long as you can help us, and you can play for cheap.” The fact of the matter is we know Dom, and we know his mistakes and how he’s dealt with them. KK went around saying “I’m a Colts player” and refused to admit that he was wrong. Dom apologized for casting a bad shadow on the Super Bowl win and vowed to not let such a thing happen again. Where is KK with the regret? I haven’t seen it, nor have I seen any indication that he is working towards improving his on-field abilities either. So if he’s a dumb-@ss and a slouch, he can have fun in Saskatchewan again.

With a player like Dom, we get a player we know that Dungy trusts. He has not been convicted of anything that the vast majority of people in America hasn’t done at least once in their adult lives(though it would usually be in college). He’s also a hard worker and mixes well with the locker room. Saying that means “we’re just like every other team” means that we would bring Chris Henry to camp, or try to trade for Chris Johnson. But we wouldn’t. I don’t think anyone said “If you’ve ever done anything illegal, don’t do charity work, don’t tithe, or curse you are done”(not my particular morals, but certainly could be Tony’s). We look for guys with high character and good judgment and a high work ethic. That does not mean perfect. Those kind of people mess up, but if you can trust a man’s character enough to see that he truly won’t put himself in a similar situation again, you should give him another shot.

This toes in well with the media reception of the Marvin Harrison story. “Ooooo look, Colts players are just like everyone else. I told you so.” Some people look for this sort of thing, the look for someone acting with moral purpose and integrity and they hope and hope that something happens that they can point to an say “See, you aren’t better than us after all.” Now, of course, Colts fans should anticipate such a thing as much as we pride ourselves in having a team about character that wins. But that doesn’t mean we should just sit around and so “Oh, I guess so.” When people pulls this sort of stunt. Other teams(not all, but many) go for talent alone, or talent first, character a distant second. The Colts look for talent and character almost at the same level, which is why we have so many guys that nobody else would touch(besides their size). That is the difference, not that we are some god-created perfect team with a variety of lesser or greater angels on our roster. We have people, people that generally display good judgment in tough situations, and have the character to admit their mistake and learn from it if they mess up. I believe Kravitz is only the latest in a line of mass and non-traditional media sources(ESPN and say KSK respectively) lining up to “Cut the tall poppy” that is the Colts character. I personally will not just blow it off while my team is lumped together with the Bengals and Raiders.

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by Bullard47 on May 9, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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