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Pete Prisco ruins my breakfast

How did I miss this? Pete Prisco wrote his annual Overrated/Underrated article, and it took me five days to finally read it. Per usual, Prisco makes some stupid judgments, like calling Adam Vinatieri overrated. Even Eddie over at Big Blue View thought that was dumb. Prisco tries to save face with his description, but it makes little sense:

Overrated: K Adam Vinatieri. He wasn't his usual self last season, missing six field goals and having two extra points blocked. He's still pretty good, but he wasn't as good as in the past last season.

I mean, for the first time in his entire career, Vinatieri has a sub par year by his standards: He didn't make every big game kick and he was a reason why the Colts lost the game at San Diego. But looking at the season, if Vinatieri had been his usual self, the Colts likely would have been the second seed in the AFC heading into the playoffs (which is what they were in 2007). Adam still converted 79% of his FGs and had 9 touchbacks. The two blocked kicks were because Russ Purnell can't friggin' coach his special teams unit's front line.

Vinatieri is fine, and Prisco needs to go back and actually WATCH the Colts play before he makes another "overrated" assessment.

Now, the Colts aside, Prisco does make good observations for other teams. I can only assume it is because he actually watched them play, unlike the Colts. Prisco is now officially calling Reggie Bush overrated. I said that two years ago and got blasted on this site for it.  Sometimes, being right is not always being popular:

Is two years in the NFL enough to earn somebody overrated honors? It is for Reggie Bush.

Bush came into the league as a player many expected to be a Marshall Faulk-type of runner, a home-run threat every time he touched the ball, a star in the passing game. Two seasons into his career with the New Orleans Saints, Bush is a runner who tiptoes into the hole, a player who is far more hype than production. >

When the Saints used the second pick in the 2006 NFL Draft to take Bush, some speculated he could be a 2,000-yard rusher. They meant in a season. He's just over halfway to that number in two. Bush, who has 1,146 rushing yards in two seasons, gets the nod this year as my most overrated NFL player. In 28 NFL games, Bush has one 100-yard rushing effort. His 3.7 career average per rush is not impressive at all. He does have 161 catches in two seasons, but the Saints expected a lot more with him running with the football when they selected him.

So, Reggie bush is the most overrated player in the NFL. Guess who is the second most overrated?

Overrated: QB Vince Young. He's young and still learning, but you'd think he's a superstar the way the media talks him up. He's far from it.

Ouch! Prisco goes so far to say that Vince young should "thank" Reggie Bush for sucking, because if Bush wasn't the most useless RB in football, all the attention would get focused squarely on Vince and his crappy QB play.

A few other interesting overrated players: CB Asante Samuel, CB Antonio Cromartie,CB DeAngelo Hall, and CB Rashean Mathis. That's pretty much the who's who of corners in the NFL. I guess Pete doesn't think these guys live up to their hype.

My favorite overrated player, Dallas's Roy Williams, got his usual you suck and it's obvious treatment:

They should retire this spot for him. He has been overrated for years -- he won my overall honor a few years ago -- but he still goes to Pro Bowls. How?

Back to the Colts, Prisco says Gary Brackett is the most underrated Colt. I gotta agree with that. Most overrated? No offense, but my suggestion is Joseph Addai. It's not because he sucks or anything (far from it), but the Colts tried to use his as a "feature" back last year, and he broke down. Addai is not a 25 carry-a-game back. He can do 20-25 touches, but not 25 carries, plus 5 receptions a game. Addai's reputation is that he is a 25 carry RB, and I don't think that' true. I think Addai works best when he is splitting carries.

What's your choice for most overrated Colt?

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I have to agree with Pete on both accounts here. I love Adam V, but he played BAD last year and I think he was hurt. Honestly, I think its a testament to our team that our most “overrated” player is really just a guy that had one bad year.

I agree 100% about Gary Brackett. You could also make a case for Marlin, Hayden, Bethea and Brock also being high underrated. However, I think Reggie Wayne deserves honorable mention here because the guy is a top 5 wide-out in this league.

by MasterRWayne on Jun 2, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I agree with the Vinateri assessment. He did have an off year, especially if he indeed is “the greatest clutch kicker of all time.”

I disagree a little bit with Shoe’s opinion that Addai is overrated. I think the reasoning is on the right track, but I think the jury’s still out a little bit. With the O line was so busted up and so much shifting of players going on on the O line, plus the fact that I think Addai had some nagging injuries last year, I think another year is needed to know. However, I see the point and think there is some merit to it.

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by shonuff on Jun 2, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Adam Vinatieri didn't play well last season

Addai is not overrated. Other than Vinatieri, I think Dallas Clark is overrated as well.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 2, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Why do you think Dallas is overrated? I’m befuddled by your statement.

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by shonuff on Jun 2, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not Reggie Bush overrated

He’s more like VY: He’s an average player, who many feel like is a top one.

He had a great season, but it was an odd season for us. He was our main target for TD mainly because Harrison was down. Still, if he has the same numbers of last season, with Harrison and all the other WRs being healthy, I’ll begin to think that he is underrated.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 2, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose

I must either view Clark with blind homerism, or he is more widely regarded as an NFL elite than I realize.

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by shonuff on Jun 2, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clark, Vince Young?

I happen to think that Clark is elite and a in the top 3 of his position. He doesn’t have the athletic ability of Gates or Winslow, but he operates as a tight end/slot receiver on the best offense in football. I am not sure what else he needs to do to prove his status and ability, but he does have a mustache. That should be nuff said…

If we are thinking that he has to catch 100 passes and 15 TD’s a year to live up to expectations, then yes, he is overrated.

BTW, the Vince Young to Clark comparison made me shoot dr. pepper out my nose. that is a bit ridiculous

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by bobmysterious on Jun 2, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

And Prisco actually said that Antonio Cromartie is overrated? WTF?! That’s just plain stupid. If he’s not the best CB in the league, I’m pretty sure he’s in the TOP 3.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 2, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

His coverage is shady at best. He usually only goes for the ball and constantly watches the QB instead of the receiver he is assigned to.

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by KingRichard on Jun 2, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over Under

I’d have to go with Jeff Saturday as the most underrated player on our roster. Of course I think he’s great, but he maybe gets too much credit as being a great center just for being the guy who hikes to Peyton Manning.

Underrated I’d have to say Robert Mathis. Only because I think too much of his success is attributed to teams double-teaming Dwight Freeney. Mathis has got some pretty sweet skills of his own.

by DoTheMathis98 on Jun 2, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its easily Dallas Clark

He drops more balls than T.O. and blocks like a little girl, Clark is easily the most overrated Colt, hands down.

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by Terry on Jun 2, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clark's hands

Clark and TO caught the same % of passes intended for them last year, 57%.

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Clark basically played WR last year. He played TE on third downs while Marvin was healthy and a little in the playoffs but spend most of the year in the slot.

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by shake n bake on Jun 2, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I agree as well that Adam V. had a sub par season by any standard you would judge kickers by, but I also don’t believe he was 100% either. My vote would go to Kenton Keith. The brother had way too much butter on his fingers the ENTIRE season and in this offense you better be able to catch.

by vcoxiv on Jun 2, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Keith

To most people that didn’t watch a lot of the Colts-Overrated, he doesn’t have the hands to play in Indy. Most people will see his pretty good rushing stats, plus being in Indy’s offense and assume he’s a good all-around back.

To Colts fans-Underrated, he ran really well last year. He gets so much hate but I’d bet if the Colts let him go he’ll find a job in the NFL. He can run the football. Some team would be happy to have a good two down RB.

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by shake n bake on Jun 2, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I aggree

I agree that he has good running skills, but in this offense that’s not enough. If you’re a back that can’t catch in this offense ( who the Colts have always had since Peyton’s been here: Marshall, Edge,, Joseph, Dom) you’re taking away a option from our offense. If he gets released during camp I’m sure he’ll get picked up by another team but it wont be because they plan on him catching passes out of the backfield.

by vcoxiv on Jun 2, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not trash

he’s just not a fit is my point that I’ve been getting at every time someone Keith bashes.

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by shake n bake on Jun 2, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody said he was

I just said he can’t catch. I don’t believe I’ve read many if any post’s questioning his running ability. I thought he played great in the Tampa and Houston games. He just can’t catch.

by vcoxiv on Jun 2, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overrated And Underrated

Overrated: I’m going to go with Vinatieri as well. I’m not sure if he was completely healthy last year, but he still struggled.

Underrated: By the media, it’s Saturday. Saturday is the best center in the league and a certain Hall of Famer. By the fans, I’m going to say Ed Johnson. I don’t think people realize how important his play was to the team last year. If it weren’t for him, the run defense would have been just as bad as in 2006. He led the defensive line in tackles, and he was the only lineman to start all 17 games.

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by Colts Homer on Jun 2, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Over-Vinitieri Under-Brackett

Highest paid kicker in the league and a reputation for being “clutch” (hate that concept with a passion). He should be better than last year. Before San Diego I would have told you that clutch doesn’t exist at that high a level, but would have secretly felt better knowing Viniteiri was kicking the pressure FG. Now my opinion matches my gut feeling.

Brackett needs no explanation to Colts fans.

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by shake n bake on Jun 2, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Adam Vinatieri IS over-rated, he’s by far the most over-rated Colt. He was awful last year. He can’t kick 50+ FG’s anymore (and rarely could even in his “Glory years” In his 10 years in NE, 5 of those years he didn’t even make more than 80%) He’s the highest paid kicker in the league, Last year, 27th in the league in FG percentage. 27th??? BBS, you say 79% like that’s a good thing. That’s mediocre! That’s something you get from Martin Gramatica, not the so called “Greatest Kicker Ever”

I do hope he returns to form, he was solid in 06, because in his career he seems to be streaky. Great in 02, sucked in 03, great in 04, average in 05, solid in 06, sucked in 07. Hopefully he gets back to “Great”

As for most over-rated in the league, it’s Vince Young. All year, ESPN always said “VY wins another one for the Titans” when he threw 3 INT’s and they won 10-6.

Most under-rated on the Colts is by far Saturday, he’s the best center in the league, and never gets mention. Although almost ALL offensive linemen are over-rated.

by MrNFL on Jun 2, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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