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Colts.com articles "hacked"?

If you go to the Colts.com message board, a member has found a way to access pre-written "fluff" articles written by Colts.com writer John Oehser. Basically, Oehser writes these articles weeks in advance and has them in the site's content bank. It's not an uncommon practice. Heck, many SB Nation writers use a nifty feature we have now with the 2.0 platform that allows us to write stuff and designate a time when it gets published.

That said, it is a bit humorous that Colts.com would actually post many of these articles (dated several weeks in advance) and try to hide them. That's not to say the articles are bad. They're not. Fluffy? Sure, but it's Colts.com. Do you expect them to trash their own players?

Of the articles, there's one on Freddie Keiaho and one on Roy Hall that are interesting. One theme that has come through each and every one of these player profile-like articles is summed up best by Freddie Keiaho:

“The difference in the comfort level between this year and last year is night and day,” Keiaho said during the Colts’ organized training activities, 14 days of onfield workouts that concluded recently at the team’s training facility.

“I’m pretty sure that’s true for everybody across the board.”

We've heard this consistently all throughout the off-season, with players like Brannon Condren, Roy Hall, Ed Johnson, and others saying they went into last season "lost." They didn't know what to do, weren't comfortable, and had to play through it. The result was a 13-3 record, another AFC South title, and a defense ranked #1 in scoring. This year, players say they feel more comfortable; the systems are quicker to grasp; they are in better shape, etc.

Be afraid, opponents. Be very, very afraid.

Players can often make a big leap from year one to year two, which is one reason why I often take shots at Vince Young. Players like Manning, Brady, McNabb, and Palmer all started showing signs they were elite players by year two. Vince is supposed to be in that category. If not, why was he drafted #3 overall in 2006? Rookie to second year jumps are not just common; they're expected. It's why teams sign rookies to two or three year contracts. You've either got it or you don't, and if you don't you can go somewhere else and "develop."

Players like Keiaho, Matt Giordano, Kelvin Hayden, Joseph Addai, and Antoine Bethea made huge strides from year one to year two. This year, the expectation falls on Roy Hall the hardest. Tony Ugoh, Keyunta Dawson, and Quinn Pitcock all showed promise last season. They have high expectations as well, but with Hall the expectation is greatest. He hasn't shown anything. This year, he must justify his roster spot. Bill Polian has been quick to point out Hall's improvement. This is significant as Polian will never compliment someone's improvement unless they actually improve.

After listening to many of you, there are several areas of this team that fans are interested in when training camp opens. While I love 18to88 and the Zombie brothers, they did say something interesting that I take bit of issue with:

With all due respect to the good guys over at Stampedeblue.com (who I enjoy), I'm not interesting in parsing out who will be the 5th receiver. I'm not curious to see who makes the roster. I'm only very mildly interested in who wins the right guard slot. These things are nice distractions, I guess, but they aren't very satisfying. I'm ready for football season.

Now, of course, speculating whether Mike Pollak or Charlie Johnson will win the RG spot is not as satisfying as watching an actual game. However, I don't think most fans share Desmond Zombie's interest (or lack thereof). Many care who the 4th or 5th WR is because tht player is one injury away from starting. If last season told me anything, you absolutely must have solid, starter-like quality depth behind most positions if you want to win a Super Bowl. Teams must be creative and innovative in finding this depth, but it must be there. We can speculate all we want about how losing Dwight Freeney and Marvin cost Indy a chance to repeat, and it did. If Freeney and Marvin were healthy, we'd have a 2007 trophy to go with 2006.

However, the other side to that is Indy should have had someone compitent to step up and take their places. Not dominant. Not all-world. Not Aaron Moorehead and Jeff Charleston. Just good, competent players who know what to do. This year, I get the sense that Indy has that depth. And yes, just like Desmond, I'm ready for the season to start already.

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I think you are expecting a lot out of Hall

Most receivers take 3-4 years before they come into their own, especially one that will not be a primary receiver on a team. Both Marvin and Reggie didn’t become superstars until year 4, and they were starters from the beginning. I think Roy has a few years before we label him as a non-op.

For most every other position, however, I completely agree with you. You start showing signs of greatness in year 2, and blossom into a full star in year 3. I think Hayden, Jackson, Keiaho, Addai, and Bethea are all at that stage. They are all going to shine in 2008.

by mgrex03 on Jun 25, 2008 1:44 PM EDT   0 recs

3 years is the benchmark

to determine whether a player is truly a player or not, its not 2 years as BBS suggests.

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by Terry on Jun 25, 2008 2:00 PM EDT   0 recs

It all depends on the position

I’d argue that a Running Back is 2 years. Look up the greats: by their second years, it was clear they would be great players. I’d argue a Wide Receiver is 4 years, as it takes longer to adjust for them. While there are obvious exceptions (Moss, Rice), almost every other great receiver did not come into his own until year 4.

I think OL could also be year 2, as scheme isn’t as important to those guys. They do what they do, and they can either do it or they can’t. That’s why rookies like Joe Thomas and Tony Ugoh can step in right away and be very good.

There is no cut and dry rule on this. It definitely depends on the position.

by mgrex03 on Jun 25, 2008 2:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That wasn't the point

He never said two years was the benchmark, just that the second year you’re expected to show improvement. Like a certain Mr. Young didn’t.

by Marik on Jun 26, 2008 2:31 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

RB

I would consider RB almost a year 1 position. If you aren’t good as a rookie then you just aren’t that good.

Most positions are two year positions. However, QB, WR and CB tend to take at least three years to blossom. WR is probably the hardest to develop is more 3-4 years.

by MasterRWayne on Jun 25, 2008 2:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Why I don't care

Perhpas I should clarify…Last year Aaron Moorehead looked as good as possible in preseason and camps. If a backup ‘project’ reciever was ever going to come in and contribute it was going to be him. He was big. He had several years with the team. He had a sweet radio show. He sucked. I don’t care about the 5th WR because that player will suck if forced play. I can’t remember the last ‘end of the bench’ WR who made any kind of regular contribution to the offense. Little Wilkens maybe? But he made the team as a returner.
My point was that this team has remarkably few question marks. Basically, the only one that matters is “Is Freeney Healthy?” and perhaps if Marcus Howard can be made into a productive player in a situational passrush. Now, who wins the 2nd TE slot does matter. That guy will play and MUST be productive. But honestly guys, if Roy Hall sees serious action aside from playing special teams, this team is in trouble.
I’m tired about disecting the bench. We don’t really KNOW anything about most of these guys and OTAs aren’t really a good way to find out. Troy Williamson looked good in OTAs for crying out loud. And we (and the league) all know he sucks.

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by deshawn zombie on Jun 25, 2008 3:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Makes sense

I think the difference between certain players in OTAs and camps is the potential factor. Roy Hall offers the potential to get better. Troy Williamson doesn’t. And Moorehead sucked in practices all last season. I saw him. The guy was a wasted roster spot. The Colts didn’t truly know how bad he was until Marvin got hurt. We’ve been lucky in that Marvin and Reggie have stayed relatively injury-free for five years.

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by BigBlueShoe on Jun 25, 2008 3:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But...

He can catch balls off of his head! He must be valuable! Or not.

Side note: The two guys famous for catching balls off of their head (Moorehead and David Tyree) could both be cut before the season starts. For some reason I find that incredibly depressing.

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by JakeTheSnake on Jun 25, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What's wrong with caring who the 5th receiver is?

I like finding info about all the colts players not just the starters. All the articles about M. Harrison have been painful, to read, this year. After reading the first article about the shooting, I would have liked to spend my time reading about real football, like the progress of the 1st and 2nd year receivers, rather then the speculative crap that has been spewing from the media all spring.
Until last year, knowing who the back ups were didn’t mean much, but once MH went down all that changed. Moorhead made some key catches in ‘06 on the way to the SB, I expected to him to perform much better then he did in ‘07. His play last year is why he looking for a new job this year. Hall is such a physical freak that it would be awesome if he ever reached his potential and was able to crack the starting line up; he would be a nightmare to cover man on man. Hall will make the roster this year because of his potential and his ability to play special teams. Aromashodu is going to get challenged by both rookies; Garcon and Giguere, both are fast enough, tall enough and very productive in college. At 210lbs and 215lbs both are strong enough to make an impact on special teams. I think both will make the roster with one on the developmental squad. It should be a great battle for that 5th receiver position. I hope I don’t get yelled at for caring who fifth receiver is.

by BetterD on Jun 26, 2008 11:05 AM EDT   0 recs

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