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AOL Fanhouse Writer Josh Alper Body Slams Mike Shanahan

This is a Class 3 beatdown by AOL Fanhouse writer Josh Alper. Basically, the Broncos are saying one of the reasons they cut or released Todd Sauerbrun, Javon Walker, and Travis Henry was because of "character" issues. This is, of course, total BS. Shanahan won Super Bowls with sketchy character people (Bill Romanowski), but didn't cut them. Why? Because they were winning. Shanahan is quoted recently as saying:

"It's funny," he said. "When you win, everybody talks about what good character you have. When you lose, everybody talks about the poor character on your football team. There's a fine line there."

Alper responded with this:

No, there isn't a fine line. When you win, people don't give two bits about the character of the players. When you lose, though, it's easy to use that as a crutch instead of looking into who might actually be responsible.

Take Shanahan. When the Broncos were winning Super Bowls they were circumventing the salary cap, people talked about it but no one in Denver cared about it because the team was winning. Cheating isn't a sign of high character but winning makes it better. Just ask the Patriot fans who will defend Bill Belichick to their last breath or the Cowboy fans who rooted for teams led by Michael Irvin and Nate Newton.

Character counts, without a doubt. The fine line isn't between good and bad ones, though, it's between winning and losing. If Henry, Walker or Sauerbrun were going to make a big difference on that front, they'd still be in town.

Wow.

I agree, the whole "character" argument with Shanahan is silly and Alper is right to call Shanahan out on this obvious hypocrisy. "Character" isn't the reason the Broncos haven't done jack squat since John Elway retired. It wasn't even the reason the Broncos sucked last year. Shanhan's incompetent management of the team and roster are. Bad drafts, stupid trades, and dumb as hell free agent signings are why Denver has won only one playoff game since Elways left after the 1998 season. 

Shanahan didn't give a rat's butt about character when he cheated to win Super Bowls or signed players like Walker and Romanowski even though they had sketchy relationships with their former teams. Now the Broncos are talking about character?

Please!

This is just more scapegoating by Shanahan, an over-rated coach and a BAD football operations guy. The Broncos have some good character people on their team, but you must have character in order to find it in others. Shanahan is not someone I would describe as a high character individual. Just my opinion, and his quote reinforces that opinion for me.

The day Denver cuts loose from this guy is the day they start moving in a winning direction.

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At least their QB of the future looks to be the best in his class

oh, what’s that. Young and Leinart were drafted before the Broncos pick so the top QB in the class (so far) fell into their laps.

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by shake n bake on Jun 6, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cutler

That Santa Claus kid is a stud, no question.

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by BigBlueShoe on Jun 6, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unbalanced "Hit" piece

Shanahan like most of us makes a few brilliant decisions, a bunch of good and fair decisions, and a few stupid ones.

Brilliant draft moves – Moving up to get Cutler, drafting Elvis Dumervil 4th round, Tom Nalen 7th round, and Brandon Marshall just to name a few.

Brilliant trades – Champ Bailey, Dewayne Robertson for nothing, Dre Bly for Tatum Bell and an OT that wouldn’t of made the team.

Brilliant FA moves – John Lynch, Brandon Stokley, Daniel Graham, Selvin Young

When the Raiders, Chiefs and Chargers bottom out they go 1-15 to 4-12. When Shanahan’s teams bottom out it’s 6-10 or 7-9.

Last year they went 7-9 because they hired a defensive coordinator that did fit, and couldn’t stop the run. Had major injuries on the OL and had a QB with untreated diabetes.

This year Shanahan has made the decision to make character more of a priority because he is learning that bad apples can spoil a team. It’s still all about winning and character is a tool to help build a better team. Shanahan look like a saint compared to NE or Dallas right now. Denver has attempted to fill every hole – DT, LB, S, OT, WR, RB. Most of these moves looks good to fair on paper. If a couple of these move turn out brilliant then they will push the Chargers, if none or only a couple are good then they will still be better than the Chiefs and at least as good as the Raiders.

Clady at OT looks great, Royal as a KR / WR looks good, Darrell Jackson WR, Micheal Pittman RB, Boss Bailey LB might turn out good. It might take one more year before they are really good again but contrary to popular nation belief they are getting much better.

by DBinKC on Jun 6, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry for the typo

Last yeatr they went 7-9 because they hired a defensive coordinator that DIDN’T fit,

by DBinKC on Jun 6, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

meh

good coach, bad personnel guy. the trade for champ bailey was a coup though. the man can work wonders with a running game…

by saintnixon on Jun 7, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Shanahan=Urban Meyer

Scapegoating dickhead who is overrated as a head coach.

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by Colts Homer on Jun 7, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Overrated in your humble opinion?

130 win in 13 seasons. Average of 10 per year. 7 years in the playoffs, 3 AFC Championship games, and 2 Super Bowl victories. I can see why other teams homer’s try to beat him down.

by DBinKC on Jun 8, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's better than most

I’d take Dungy over him no question though

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by shake n bake on Jun 8, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Respect for Dungy

Nothing but great respect for him, as a man and a coach. It seams that Shanahan is getting hammered nationally beyond what is deserved. Many don’t give Shanahan much credit for two straight Super Bowls because of Davis and Elway. It’s much easier to love your coach when your winning. Fast forward a bunch of years after Manning retires and the Colt aren’t as good. Is Dungy still your no question coach? That is where Denver has been with Shanahan.

by DBinKC on Jun 8, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shanahan has nothing to prove.

He has a great resume. Everyone has the mentality of “what have you done for me lately?”, but I don’t think that often results in a fair assessment. More than likely, no one is as great as they seem or as horrible as they seem in any given moment, but I’d say he is a very good coach. It sure helps anyone to have a Manning or Elway, although some coaches would even flub that up. Shanahan and Dungy haven’t, though. Great coaches.

by coltsfanawalt on Jun 9, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both Wrong!

Both arguements are wrong because they are both taking an extreme. Obviously character alone won’t win a championship; however, bad character, in extreme examples, could certainly prevent one.

Dungy and Shanahan are both great coaches. Shanahan has actually done much better than most NFL coaches since Elway’s departure. Despite having to basically 100% rebuild his team since the late 90’s. Shanahan, like most perfectionist, does have a problem delegating and can often overwhelm himself…however, he is a very good coach.

by UnarmingMermaid on Jun 17, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets get the story straight

Denver deferred payments with interest in 1996-98. They did not tape signals. So to say that this is on the same plane as NE is ignorant. Last I checked Shanahan isnt overrated. You are not very knowledgable in football. I guess over 120+ wins with one franchise is overrated. Plus every coach goes thru up and down years on player personnel. Lets see you beloved Polian is not immune from that either. But I am glad to see that most of the Colt fans here are a little more astute than bigblueshoe

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 17, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

“Stampede Blue: An Indianapolis Colts blog”. What the hell does this article have to do with your Colts??? What’s the point of posting this on your blog and then heading over to your Broncos’ counterpart on SB Nation to argue about it with blinders on? I appreciate your faux concern for our team and/or the league, but really, you can keep that to yourself; you are about as ill-informed on the matter as the author of the original piece you quote. Oh, by the way, here’s a little something I had to read before I signed up to comment on this blog that I think you should perhaps take a look at – maybe it’ll remind you of a thing or two about leading by example:

“Don’t be mean. Don’t troll. Don’t demean or debase others. [...] behave in a respectful manner to others [...] If you don’t, that is grounds of banishment from the site. So please, be kind.”

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by ejruiz on Jun 18, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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