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Yay. Hester got an extension. Fanhouse bitter I called out one of their writers

I guess all is right with the world again, as Devin Hester received a contract extension and a nice bonus of cash today. This comes one day after I defended Chicago Tribune writer Jack Kree for his article criticizing Hester's recent comments that his old contract of $445,000 a year was not enough money. Kree's article was attacked by AOL Fanhouse "blogger" Michael David Smith, and I rightly bashed Smith because he was wrong defending Hester's silly and thoughtless comments. Fanhouse, apparently, takes care of their own, as another of their "bloggers" (Ryan Wilson) decided to take a shot at yours truly:

No word on the how much the team forked over to keep Hester in Chicago through 2013, but I'll guess it'll pay him more than the near-half-million he was scheduled to make in 2008, which must make this dude very, very angry. (Economics: 1, Insane Rambling Diatribe: 0)

What Wilson pathetically tries to do in his insult is change the subject, suggesting I think extending Hester is a "bad idea," or something. That's not the issue, but thanks for trying, Ryan. Next time, maybe Michael David Smith could stand up for himself rather than send you to do it for him.

The point of issue that Wilson would like to label "Insane Rambling Diatribe" was not Hester getting a bonus. I personally thought Hester did deserve a raise of some kind, but not a $40 or $50 million dollar one. The issue was Hester's comments, suggesting that his old contract (which paid roughly $450,000 year) was not enough money. I thought, and still think, those comments were foolish, especially given the harsh economic times we live in. Jack Kree seems to agree with me. It's really hard to sympathize with anyone who takes home over $400K a year, let alone a person complaining that $400K is not enough.

We now know Hester did receive a $30 million dollar contract with a $15 million guaranteed bonus. He could also get $10 million in bonuses if he becomes a #1 receiver. I don't know how they will manage to measure whether he becomes such a receiver, but I imagine it is stats driven.

If Fanhouse writers like Wilson and Smith think that Hester was in the right to complain about his old money situation, then those two guys are not in tune with the rest of modern civilization. It's that simple. It's pretty hard to sympathize with anyone making over $445,000 a year, and when they complain that such a sum is not enough, they look foolish... but not as foolish as those people who defend them.

We can debate till the cows come home the reasoning for paying someone $30 million to play a position they suck at (WR), but what is not debatable are Hester's comments made last week. Kree was right to bash Hester for those comments, and Fanhouse tools Wilson and Smith were wrong to defend Hester.

To swing this back around to something Colts related, it makes me feel good to know my team's president pays players good money because they can actually play their positions well. Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne make a ton of bread playing WR because they have proven they are elite WRs. And you very rarely, if ever, hear Colts players complain they don't make enough money.

I'm off to drop another $65 bucks on a gas fill up.


UPDATE: Well, when you look at this chart, then it seems pretty clear Hester did get elite WR money. The guaranteed $15 mill is the crazy part. Some of the bonus money has conditions, but even without that, this is still an elite WR-like contract. I still think it is pretty stupid to sign a kick returner to this much money. But whatever, Hester doesn't play for my team. And his comments last week were still dumb.

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hester

Long term reader of this blog and love the content so I was a little surprised by the position you took regarding Hester’s contract.

Your main grouse seems to be that he is making 450K and thats a lot of money in these depressing times and that he should shut his mouth and play. Your point is well taken, it is indeed a lot of money for us average fans of the game but you have to agree that its not much in the world of professional football. So we cannot use the same yardstick to measure.

It’s a business, you have to make all the money when you are a hot commodity. Reminds me of that Green Bay receiver who agreed to rescind his demands for a new contract and then promptly broke his leg.

While Devin definitely doesn’t command elite receiver money his intangibles are through the roof. Every time you kick the ball to him there is a high likelihood for great field position if not an outright score. So I really don’t fault him for asking more money. Maybe he needs a PR guy to word his demands better but this definitely was not an outrageous demand.

by salu on Jul 27, 2008 4:17 PM EDT   0 recs

I thought..

The definition of an intangible is something that can’t be measured, so how can it be “through the roof?”

by furrycolt on Jul 27, 2008 6:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hence

the term “through the roof”, if it stopped at the roof you would have been able to measure it :)

by salu on Jul 27, 2008 6:18 PM EDT   0 recs

I like...

How you won me over with that ;)

by furrycolt on Jul 27, 2008 6:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Think of it this way BBS

By them linking to here, it just gives Stampede Blue and SB Nation more readers.

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by MrNFL on Jul 27, 2008 8:12 PM EDT   0 recs

How long have you been a Colts fan?

Don’t you remember the days before Manning? When you people weren’t so spoiled?

How is it that Hester’s season last year at WR could lead to him being described as sucking at the position? He was in 10-15 plays per game and caught 20 passes for 299 yards. This year he’ll play in 30-35 plays per game (still below #1 WR count) and will probably end up with 60+ catches for 900 yards or so. As a Bears fan, trust me, we’ll take that when we can get it. Especially with QBs that aren’t exactly Manning and a retarded offensive coordinator…

by mikebdot on Jul 28, 2008 9:02 AM EDT   0 recs

Hester

will not have 60+ catches for 900 yds… He’ll probably have considerably less catches and probably less yards than Anthony Gonzalez and Gonzo won’t have near that.

by BlueVol03 on Jul 28, 2008 10:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

His job is to score TDs

Which he does. A lot of. And his TDs are a supplement to the TDs (or in the Bears case, lack thereof) the WRs score.

by primetime 07 on Jul 28, 2008 11:09 AM EDT   0 recs

No

His job now is to do the exact same thing returning kicks… AND catch 70+ passes for over 1,000 yards and at least 6 TDs. That is what elite WRs do. If Hester doesn’t do that, then the Bears tied up over $40 million in a situational player who can be neutralized if you don’t kick the ball to him. That means they will lose for a long time.

But all that is beside the true point. Hester complaining about only making $445,000 was petty on his part. I understand him wanting a raise, but how one goes about it tells us fans a lot about them.

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by BigBlueShoe on Jul 28, 2008 11:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

$445k isn't worth it?

It’s entertainment. He helps the Bears win. The more they win the more money they make.

And, by the way, the deal wasn’t for $40 million. It was for $30 million. And he doesn’t get $10 million of that if he doesn’t put up #1 WR numbers.

by primetime 07 on Jul 28, 2008 11:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Win?

What was Chicago’s record last season? His returns don’t help them win. If they did, they’d win more than 6 or 7 games. He opened the Super Bowl with a kickoff return for a TD, and his team was dominated and embarrassed in the game.

And the Bears make money regardless of how many games they win. Look at the Cubs.

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by BigBlueShoe on Jul 28, 2008 12:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hester's returns help them win quite a bit

The Bears were a combined 32 points above average in kick and punt returns (from FO), so the Bears with an average return team would have scored 302 points. With that and the 384 points they allowed I can use the pythagorean wins formula to see about how much over an average return man Hester gives.

Pts scored2/(Pts scored2+Pts allowed^2)

Using 334 as the points scored the Bears would have been expected to win 7.67 games, not far off the 7 they did.
Using the hypothetical Hester replaced by an average returnman Bears they would scored 302 points making their Pythagorean win total 6.87.

So Hester’s returns last year were worth almost a win (.8) His contract averages to 7.5 million a year without incentives (6.4% of the current cap). If a team played 7.5 million for .8 wins they would win 12.5 games a year.

So if a team could find a roster full of players that produce at the same pay to point-win production as Hester they would be a contender year in n=and year out.

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by shake n bake on Jul 28, 2008 1:31 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

I can't always go with Lil' Wayne

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by shake n bake on Jul 29, 2008 3:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

With that logic

The Colts should not pay Peyton Manning because they are going to make money regardless.

I guess I just disagree with you.

by primetime 07 on Jul 28, 2008 6:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you're missing the point...

This occupation is their whole life, and I mean that literally. As in, most players aren’t able to go out and get a nice cushy job in middle-management with nice health care benefits in a downtown Chicago highrise when they retire.

If Hester takes a bad hit in the first week of the regular season, and he HADN’T YET got his contract redone, then the league minimum he made the past two years is all he has left.
But he got his contract, so now if his career ends in week one, he’s still set.
Lots of careers end VERY abruptly in the NFL. Hell, look at Bo Jackson. He was a Beast and yet one innocent and unspectacular tackle brought that to a grinding halt.

In all honesty, I’m usually the first guy in line to criticize players for their greed. Hell, even Tommie Harris did an interview where he stated that football players don’t deserve all the ridiculous money they get. Funny thing is that this interview came about two weeks before he signed the richest Defensive Tackle contract in NFL history, and the Richest contract in Bears history.

But in this case I have to concede that Hester far FAR outplayed his rookie contract and had every right to be compensated for it.

by HesterSteals1st on Jul 30, 2008 6:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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