Recap: Colts 20-Panthers 23
Nothing says Shoot me now! like a pre-season overtime game. Honestly, why do they let these things go to OT? Does anyone really care if a pre-season game gets tied? So silly. Anyway, unlike the HoF game, it looked like a regular old pre-season game out there, complete with sloppy play, turnovers, and players not knowing what the hell is going on.
Typical pre-season.
Colt Homer posted his more than solid game recap over at Naptown, and for the most part I agree with him. Also, some nice comments in the game thread. Thanks to MasterRWayne for setting that up. My Internet was down all day yesterday because of some grid issue. I was in hell. Here are some observations from the game:
- The Panthers ran the ball 48 times. 48! Are you kidding me? Gee, do you think Panthers coach John Fox was trying to send a message to his team in their first pre-season game? Carolina averaged 4.3 yards a carry and generated over 200 yards rushing on 48 friggin' attempts. Either Fox is really wanting to run the football this year in Carolina, or he's trying to get his RBs killed. Poor tackling from Indy's linebackers resulted in some good gains early on for the Panthers. With guys like Jordan Senn, Kyle Shotwell, and Danny Verdun-Wheeler (who was signed just a few days ago) playing LB for you, those things are going to happen. None of these guys are making the team anyway.
- Carolina seemed to game plan the game and did an awful lot of blitzing. Is that cheap and silly for a pre-season game? Yes, but Carolina's coaches are desperate this year, and need to get this team to the playoffs in order to retain their jobs. Desperate teams do desperate things. The blitzing was unexpected, and not something Indy could game plan for. LT Tony Ugoh struggled because he'd never matched up with Julius Peppers before, and wasn't given a chance to study Panthers game film because (unlike Carolina) the Colts didn't game plan this pre-season game. I actually liked that they blitzed because it provided some adversity for the young guys.
- Like I told you, Marvin Harrison is fine. If Peyton Manning had been in there and Carolina blitzed like that, Indy would have been up 21-0 in the first quarter with Harrison scoring 2 of those TDs on long bombs. Marvin had a nice catch going out-of-bounds early.
- I'm starting to believe a little bit. For the second straight week, Indy's special teams coverage units have looked good. Very good. 4 Carolina punt returns netted -1 yards, and 3 kick returner netted 68 yards. Adam Vinatieri looks as strong and healthy as I've ever seen him, even in New England. He is booming the ball on kickoffs, and players seem to know their assignments and are tackling the ball carrier well. Again, starting to believe a little bit.
- Jim Sorgi continues to un-impress. He had two turnovers, resulting from poor pass protection because the Panthers were blitzing in pre-season. Despite the bad protection, Sorgi has to protect the ball better. Jared Lorenzen looked much better with the second unit. I still like Quinn Gray better.
- Mike Hart continued to solidify his place on the roster: 2 rushes for 20 yards, 2 catches for 21 yards. Kenton Keith continues to fall further and further into oblivion. He dropped some passes (shocking, I know) and rushed 1 time for 1 yard. Why did Indy cut Clifton Dawson, who at least showed some young potential, and not this waste of space?
- Though Indy will run more 3 WR this year, the Colts got some good TEs for 2008. Gijon Robinson impresses in the passing game, and Jacob Tamme was about as good as it gets, snatching 2 TDs. Tamme is a real weapon in the red zone, and will likely find his way there if the Colts go 2 TE inside the 20.
- T.J. Rushing's returns were very good. He's separating himself from the pack. Pierre Garcon did not play because of a hip injury.
- I disagree with Colt Homer on Devin Aromashodu; he isn't getting cut. For the second straight game, he looked good. I still think Indy will carry 6 WRs this year. I can see Colt Homer's thinking, but Aromashodu and Garcon are both good WRs who can play special teams. I think Indy keeps them both on the active roster.
- Brandon Condren makes me feel very good about safety depth. Unlike the LBers, Brandon can actually tackle the ball carrier.
- To the people complaining about the defensive line, saying it reminds them of the 2006 regular season, PLEASE RELAX and remember this is pre-friggin-season. Quinn Pitcock's absence is not the reason Carolina ran the ball 48 times. The Colts have the same 3 DTs the rotated for much of the 2007 season (Ed Johnson, Keyunta Dawson, and Raheem Brock) and have added a gem out of Rutgers named Eric Foster. Foster is a stud, and anyone who doesn't see that isn't watching the games or practices. The Colts run defense will be just fine once the rotation gets set, Dwight Freeney returns, and Bob Sanders is unleashed on the civilized world. Guys like Foster and Brock are learning new roles, and Dungy is looking hard at players like Joe Bradley and Colin (not the dumb actor) Ferrell. If the Colts feel that adding someone like Booger McFarland for depth would help, they'd do it. Bill Polian and Tony Dungy love Booger, and Booger loves the Colts. Obviously, since they haven't signed Booger at this point, they feel good about their DT situation. Calm down. Relax. And remember it is still early August.
As fans, we were spoiled a little bit by the Hall of Fame game, which had the feel of a regular season game in terms of execution and level of play. Last night's game was more a typical pre-season game. Per usual, there were many positives, and those players that showed more negatives and positives will likely not make the active roster in 4 weeks.
For a Panthers fan's take, head over to the always reliable Car Scratch Reader. Look for more insights and analysis throughout the day and week, including MasterRWayne's take on the game.
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Sloppy
It was just a very sloppy game with lots of missed tackles and far too many turnovers.
Sorgi desperately needs to get cut.
by MasterRWayne on Aug 10, 2008 11:34 AM EDT 0 recs
Wait a minute
wasn’t it Colts – 20 Panther – 23?
by FreeneyWillEatYourBaby on Aug 10, 2008 1:03 PM EDT 0 recs
Doh!
Thx. Corrected.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Aug 10, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
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T.J.
I agree – Rushing looked great. He’s running hard and straight ahead. No dancing around or anything – he is looking to get up the field in a hurry.
The Shogun of Harlem
by shonuff on Aug 10, 2008 4:32 PM EDT 0 recs
Rushing and Sorgi
His returns were very good; so was his corner play, except on the one long-gain pass along the left side during the OT. I like the Waiter’s straight-line speed, but Rushing’s making this team because he’s a somewhat experienced returner and a useful reserve DB.
I thought the Colts got good work out of Guzman, Eric Foster and Hughes. The younger O-linemen were actually better than the starters. Lorenzen outplayed Gray. Does anyone else think Gray throws about half the time off his back foot? Think how strong his throws would be if his footwork was better.
Sorgi? Well, I have never thought that if he was handed the keys to the offense that he would step up and fill Peyton’s shoes, even a little. That’s not really a knock on him; he’s suited to play more like Jeff Garcia in a true West Coast offense. The truth is, Peyton is sui generis and the offense is built around his unique skills. So, letting Sorgi try to do the same isn’t fair to Sorgi, or anyone else. But, since we are where we are, is Gray or Lorenzen an upgrade, since Sorgi knows the Colts’ personnel and schemes a lot better? I think we have a back-up QB issue whether it’s Sorgi or someone else, and that’s because #18 is simply so good. To me, the most valuable Colt right now is the ortho doc who is treating Peyton’s left knee.
The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.
by Coltsfan58 on Aug 10, 2008 4:57 PM EDT 0 recs
I thought Gray was awful.
This is not Sorgi’s job to lose as much as Gray’s to try to win. And he is not doing it. His stats were worse than everyone’s last night. His turnovers were disappointing as well. And he does not have the relationship with Manning that Sorgi enjoys. I don’t think we are looking at anyone we’d even remotely want starting for us in meaningful games. If so, we need to change our approach in the draft. I suspect that any QB that good would be discontent behind Manning every year, watching his carreer window being closed slowly while Manning continues making history. At least Manning trusts Sorgi.
Gray needs to impress to get this gig. Last night, he failed to do so.
by coltsfanawalt on Aug 10, 2008 5:30 PM EDT 0 recs
I'm a Bronco fan that lives in Seahawk country and is just wondering...
how Manning is doing. We get little outside news here in Spokane…something with his knee. I really liked watching his dad Archie and loved it when you guys won the Super Bowl. I also like Peyton’s advertisements.
Broncos broncos everywhere and all the league did blink,
by Mike Clark on Aug 10, 2008 6:26 PM EDT 0 recs
Hi Mike
Manning’s knee is fine. He had the bursa sac removed underneath the knee because of an infection. There was no structural damage. The infection is now gone and Manning will be back at practice in 1-2 weeks.
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by BigBlueShoe on
Aug 10, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
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That is good news.
I don’t watch TV so I’m a little behind on what’s happening. Your team is a class act and I wish you the best this season. (unless we meet in the playoffs)
Broncos broncos everywhere and all the league did blink,
by Mike Clark on
Aug 10, 2008 6:40 PM EDT
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also new to the computer--but really like this sbnation thing.
Thanks BigBlue for the reply.
Broncos broncos everywhere and all the league did blink,
by Mike Clark on
Aug 10, 2008 6:53 PM EDT
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As a Vandy alum who loves Jay Cutler and a Colts fan who will always love Stokley, I just hope you guys can show up the Chargers this season. Cutler is the real deal, and everyone who laughed when I said he was better than Leinart and Young is starting to look pretty stupid. Go Horse(s).
by hoosierdore on
Aug 11, 2008 2:19 AM EDT
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Cutler is the real deal...........and more than that..........he is the real deal.
I hope the best for you!
Broncos broncos everywhere and all the league did blink,
by Mike Clark on
Aug 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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Thanks!
You seem nice its just too bad that BBS and I hate the Seahawks!
If you ever have any sports questions please feel free to email us.
by MasterRWayne on Aug 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT 0 recs
I hate the Seahawks also
Spokane and North Idaho is a great place to live.
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by Mike Clark on
Aug 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
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Mile high
I take it you post over at MHR, right?
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by BigBlueShoe on
Aug 11, 2008 11:00 AM EDT
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Yes, bigblue, but I am the biggest nothing that somebody wants to throw away.
At MHR I am the idiot that lives in the la-la-land-of pre-season-feel goods.
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by Mike Clark on
Aug 11, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
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