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Preseason 2008: Colts 16-Falcons 9

No other running back conjures up more horrible memories for the Colts than Michael Turner. Good God! Does this guy own the Colts defense or what? I mean, I damn near threw a goodbye party when Travis Henry smoked his way out of the NFL, because for years he tormented the Colts defense as well. But for some reason, I don't think Turner is as stupid as Travis "What's a condom?" Henry. Atlanta's new running back gained 113 yards on 4 carries. Two of those carries were runs of 52 and 63 yards. To Indy's credit, players like Marlin Jackson were able to run Turner down from behind and keep him, and Atlanta, out of the endzone. Consider also that Atlanta had 318 total yards of offense, with 1/3 of that on Turner's 4 carries.

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Michael Turner: You haunt me.
Photo: AP: John Bazemor

I'm not ready to press any kind of panic button with the defense. This is pre-season. Guys are just coming back healthy. Anyone saying "OMG it's just like 2006" is just someone who enjoys worrying. This same group last year was very good against the run. Watching clips of the Turner runs tells me it is a communication thing (guys out of position, taking bad angles, attacking wrong gap, etc.). It is also impossible to judge this defense when it's two best players (Bob Sanders and Dwight Freeney) have not played at all. So relax. Chill. It's only pre-season.

Here are more observations:

  • Jim Sorgi was, once again, terrible. All this Sorgi post game love is just smoke and mirrors. I love how people are praising him for conducting a long drive, and that his quarterbacking left everyone with "a nice feeling." Cut the crap! Despite having arguably the most potent offensive weapons at his disposal in the entire NFL, Jim Sorgi failed to score a TD against a team that last year ranked 29th in scoring defense, giving up an average of 26 ppg. I'm sorry, but if Sorgi can't get this Colts team into the endzone under those conditions, HE CAN'T DO IT PERIOD! I'm not saying Quinn Gray or Jared Lorenzen have distinguished themselves much (because they haven't), but consider that those two guys have played a helluva lot better with the second and third string guys than Jim Sorgi ever did when he QBed the back-ups. Since Peyton is unlikely to return for next week's dress rehearsal game in The Lube, why not see what Quinn Gray can do throwing to Marvin Harrison? I'm tired of seeing Sorgi. He sucks, and if he makes this roster it is because he's got naked pictures of Chris Polian with a donkey, or something.
  • OMFG! Kenton Keith caught a pass last night! I did not see the play, but the box score clearly shows he caught a pass.

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    I'm also told that he got a first down with that catch. Bravo Kenton! Ah, but one problem: K2 was playing with the fourth stringers. That does not bode well for last year's primary back-up to Joseph Addai. PhilB noticed it as well:

    Based on the substitution patterns, Mike Hart looks like he's got a spot on this team as a running back. Same with Garcon as a receiver/returner. That doesn't bode well for running back Kenton Keith and wide receiver Devin Aromashodu, among others. Clifton Dawson even played before Keith.
    Bye-bye Kenton. We all have pretty much known for months that you are getting cut. You run like a demon, dude. But RBs in this league must catch the football. If they can't, they're garbage. Utter garbage.
  • I'm going to do a lot of special teams praising in this recap. So please, bear with me. Writers like Colts Homer, the Zombie bros, and bamock have done great jobs recapping the offense and defense. So, I feel as though I'm just treading over what's already been said if I state that Mike Hart looked good again (which he did) or Marcus Howard was a 5th round steal (which he was).
  • Pierre Garcon did some good things returning punts and kicks. His 27 yard kick return (his only one of the night) showed me something. Between Garcon and T.J. Rushing, who has been very impressive in camp and pre-season, the Colts might have a couple of  good returners for 2008. Those are potent weapons for a team that sports a scary offense. 
  • Nice to see the defense generating turnovers. 5 turnovers, including 2 INTs for Brannon Condren and 1 INT for Kelvin Hayden, who returned it for the game's only TD. The play looked very similar to his Super Bowl 41 prance into the endzone. The defense also did not allow a TD, and was getting good pressure all night.
  • Despite jumping offsides a lot, Curtis Johnson did some good things last night. Colts Homer was especially impressed. Johnson needs to make a name for himself rushing the passer though. Stopping the run is great, but guys like Josh Thomas are very good at stopping the run. Indy needs pass rushers.
  • As bad as Indy's starting offense looked last night, at least it wasn't as bad as Jacksonville's or Tennessee's. Jacksonville's offense was shut out well into the third quarter in its pre-season game against Miami Saturday, with the passing game looking particularly dreadful. And Tennessee? Well, let's just say the natives are getting restless with Vince Young (aka they are booing him at home). Vince went 4-13 for 37 yards against the Raiders, and it could have been worse; the Raiders dropped a couple of gimme INTs. As bad as Sorgi has played, at least he hasn't been Vince Young bad. On the flip-side, Houston's offense looked impressive.
  • More Adam Vinatieri love: The guy is destroying his kickoffs. His next one might make a sonic boom, or hit the Met Life blimp, or something. Adam had 4 of his 5 kickoffs go into the endzone, and one was a touchback. He also had a FG.
  • For the third straight game, the Colts special teams coverage units looked damn good. I talked to MasterRWayne after the game, and he said it best. This kind of stuff is something you can walk away with in pre-season. If your special teams are good in pre-season, chances are they will be good in the regular season, because the same guys playing now will play when the games matter.
  • Jacob Tamme = stud. I think he just passed Gijon Robinson on the depth chart.
  • That was 5 WR look I saw in the game, with an empty backfield. Nice play design, Tom Moore!
  • Good to see Indy using the reverse with Dallas Clark. I'd like to see them run it with Marvin or Gonzo. Heck, maybe even Matt Giordano could com in and run it.

All in all, the areas that were weaknesses last year (special teams, pass rush, depth at WR) have continued to look strong in pre-season. Next week we'll get a much better gauge when the Defensive Player of the Year and The Fright return from the PUP.

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Running the Clark around again: plausible

Running it with Gonzalez or Marvin: a stretch

Running it with Giordano: Who do you think is running this team? Sean Payton? One thing we will never have to worry about with the Colts under the current staff is that they’ll get “too cute” with the play calls and design.

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by shake n bake on Aug 17, 2008 11:06 AM EDT   0 recs

Unlike seemingly everyone here, I actually like Kenton Keith, he’s a far better runner than Rhodes IMO, but things aren’t looking good for his future.

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by MrNFL on Aug 17, 2008 12:05 PM EDT   0 recs

kenton keith sealed his fate in the red zone of last years playoff game with his tipped drop for what would have been a TD. and a game winning TD no less. no way do I want him in this offense dropping anymore passes. no way is KK over rhodes.

and I will say it again. I WAS THRILLED with 2 picks when their names were called and Im still thrilled with them…jacob tamme and marcus howard. studs!

and after watching henne look he should have been given garrards 60 million instead of garrard I still cant believe henne was not taken earlier. hes a steal along with tamme and howard. and speaking of the exwolverine…I am pleasantly surprised with mike hart! Im not afraid to say that either. I was not that happy when they picked him because of his injured collegiate career. I hope he proves me wrong all the way to the superbowl. I hope I didnt just jinx him into an injury.

when peyton comes back I will officially exhale

by kinnickcolt on Aug 17, 2008 12:45 PM EDT   0 recs

I'd rather have

A guy who can run for over 4 a run who can’t catch than a guy who can catch but has trouble getting 3.5 a run. I’d love to see them both stay personally, Keith is a better runner than Rhodes by a good margin IMO.

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by MrNFL on Aug 17, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah well look at it this way. With Rhodes we have the Colts have a Super Bowl ring, without him…well, let’s not get into that again. Capeche?

Go Colts!

by KingRichard on Aug 17, 2008 6:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok clearly what I mean to say was the Colts have a Super Bowl ring.

Go Colts!

by KingRichard on Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He had a good game

And overall, a fairly crappy season. I’ve never been a Rhodes guy though. The Super Bowl was a great game for him, but that’s one of the few games the guy was able to get above 4 a run.

Like I said, I’d rather keep BOTH of them, and have Hart as the 4th back.

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by MrNFL on Aug 18, 2008 12:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What the hell is the point in that when Hart is better than both of them? The only thing Hart needs to do is hang back this season, pick Addai and Rhodes’ brain, learn the offense, and come out with guns blazing next season.

Go Colts!

by KingRichard on Aug 18, 2008 6:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Little Early

To say that, the guy has played zero games, I think it’s a little soon to say he’s better. Looking good in camp and preseason doesn’t prove squat.

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by MrNFL on Aug 18, 2008 7:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

??

My last memory of Rhodes when he was with the Colts was when he ran all over the Bears for over 100 yards as the Colts won the Super Bowl….Keith on the other hand, I last remember him dropping a critical pass in the divisonal playoffs that resulted in a interception. Even though he does run with some power, I’ll give it to Rhodes any day over Keith.

by ColtsFanNChiTown on Aug 18, 2008 12:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Keith and others who lost that game for us

did us a favor. With our (lack of) pass rush, the Pats would’ve crushed us the following week. Then we’d have more stupid talk from Pats fans and ESPN about Manning being owned by them and such. We weren’t super bowl-healthy last year.

by coltsfanawalt on Aug 18, 2008 1:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

5 WR Sets

Early ast year the Colts used Joseph Addai as one of the receivers in a 5 WR set. With the depth at WR this year is that still going to be the case or will they be all WR since Hall is healthy and they drafted Garcon?

by Sanders_fan89 on Aug 17, 2008 12:46 PM EDT   0 recs

Sorgi

It’s not that he is proving to be the second coming of Peyton Manning. It’s that no one else is proving to be, either. No QB registered a TD yesterday, and that is with multiple series against inferior defenses and with a quality line protecting them. I loathe Gray as much as anyone does Sorgi, and I don’t think Lorenzen has separated himself either. If no one WINS this job, Sorgi will keep it by default.

by coltsfanawalt on Aug 17, 2008 2:51 PM EDT   0 recs

Id rather have a running back who catch out of the backfield AND run since that is an important part of our offense. seems to me I can remember rhodes running for over 4 yards here and there his last season as a colt.

not even comparable. rhodes over brick hands any day of the week

by kinnickcolt on Aug 17, 2008 4:30 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm going to ignore what BBS says about Sorgi

The virulent hate-on he has for Sorgi needs psychological help. Did he shoot your cat or something man?

by Marik on Aug 18, 2008 2:31 AM EDT   0 recs

Here’s a better question: Are you blind?

Go Colts!

by KingRichard on Aug 18, 2008 6:32 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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