now Im getting sick. this is not good. in fact this is downright scary.

where there is smoke there is usually fire. Im guessing this IS indeed true.

if sorgi is in there for any more than one game we can kiss the season goodbye

well thats pretty cowardly texan

even though Im sick upon hearing this, its not the texans that I think the colts will lose to without manning. its the pats, chargers and the TOP teams who it concerns me

As you mentioned BBS. I truly hope Lombardi and his sources are full of it and Manning is totally fine by next week

until someone else picks this up, i am going to just hope it’s not true or if it is, that it’s not as serious as he is making it out to be. i agree something seemed fishy about this all along, but this concerns me more for his long-term prognosis. however, i am not sure how dungy and the rest of the colts can flat out say that he is on schedule with no setbacks if there is one.

Peyton Manning had his bursa sac removed???

Those perennial cellar-dwellers over at Battle Red Blog had me believe that it was a nut sack.

if it really is true and manning is going to miss some significant time or part of the season is questionable, its time for the colts to sign a real backup qb ASAP

the sack joke is so yesterday

from listening to Polian yesterday was that the team is preparing for Sorgi Week 1. Just the feeling I got coming through. He kept saying how irrelevant the streak, and starting on “Opening Night” of the new stadium.

is this becoming the harrison knee issue of last year? because it sounds like it

All that I’ve read about the procedure it is not uncommon for a second surgery or as it stated cleanup surgery if this is true there isn’t a need to think the worst for as far as I have seen writing there isn’t in knowledge on how long ago this might have been done and by the looks of him going through the walk through his knee looked fine.

The one thing the needs to be addressed if this is true is the management not being 100% true full with the fans on this although there would be a problem when it came to the competition knowing it in advance.

3….2….1….

 Unless the coach isn’t the man we all think he is then this statement puts doubt on what this sport columnist and his contacts are saying:

“Dungy said while Manning will not play against Buffalo Sunday, he has yet to be ruled out of the team’s preseason finale against the Cincinnati Bengals on August 28.”

Dave wrote on August 21, 2008 12:45 PM:

Phil,

Have you heard anything in line with this?

Really hoping it’s not true, but the more I hear about this, the more I think the Colt’s are hiding something. Week 1 aside, I would be more worried about his long-term prognosis.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008/08/national-football-post-diner-talk-2/

I talked to several people in the NFL yesterday who know things and they assure me that Peyton Manning’s knee is a huge concern for the Colts. Apparently Manning had to go through another procedure on his knee to clean things out after having his bursa sac removed last month. What is the most concerning is not the second operation (which the Colts are denying), but that they cannot control the swelling in Manning’s knee and any physical movement causes MORE swelling. Once he returns to the game, gets hit, has to place a load on the knee, and drive the ball, there can be swelling. All I know is that there is MUCH more here than meets the eye. Manning has the trainer come over to HIS home for rehab and is rarely seen. Now, I have been with some big-time quarterbacks in my career like Joe Montana and Rich Gannon and never have they rehabbed from home. I thought this was not an issue and that Manning would be back. However, after talking to my friends in the league, it’s clear that this is a HUGE concern short- and long-term for the Colts.

PHIL B: We’re aware of the blog, as are the Colts. Tony Dungy was asked about it today and implied it wasn’t true. He didn’t come right out and deny it, but he made the suggestion we should talk to the blogger — and that he would like to. I don’t know that anyone knows the truth except Manning, Irsay, Polian, Dungy and the doctors. Anybody out there saying otherwise is making a guess. Pure speculation. And if you want to push the issue, you ask, “How do you know this to be true?” I can’t believe it would be in the Colts’ best interest to share this information with anyone, let alone a blogger. And since this was a blog, the interview request for Bill Polian was turned down because, I guess it’s policy, the team doesn’t respond to blog reports. That kind of puts me in my place, I guess.

I’ll just say this: If it is true that he needed to have a second surgery done, it’s better that they did it then than a few weeks into the season. Sure, I don’t like being lied to, but it’s more important to have him healthy than on-schedule.

I sent a e-mail to Michael Lombardi and with respect to BBS I hope he dosen’t object to me posting it here it pretty much self explainable:

 From:“Michael Lombardi” <michael.lombardi@nationalfootballpost.com>
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To:mark.wells07@comcast.net
Subject:Re: Peyton’s surgery
Date:Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:52:11 PM
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I have it 100 percent correct….

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:49 PM, <mark.wells07@comcast.net> wrote:

Being a die hard Colts fan I’m very curious on how much faith you put to this being the absolute real info on his second surgery and why none of the main news sources are reporting any thing on it.
 
 
Any confirming info would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU.

I don’t know about you guys, but I need to calm the F down. I am beginning to panic.

Lets be rational:

1) Does it matter if Peyton had a 2nd procedure? No. If he didn’t have it, just think how bad it would be. This is probably why he was home hooked up to IV antibiotic at the start of training camp (10 days lpost surgery) – remember that report?

2) He is progressing well. SO FAR, according to the time schedule (the swelling concerns me…) he was in a walk-through yesterday and from my understanding was walking around fine.

3) Peyton himself denied needing to wear a wrap around his knee (that’s hopeful)

4) I can’t blame the Colts’ staff from keeping this from everyone. I mean, I wouldn’t want other teams to know this anyway.

Look at it this way…(at least I have to)…if he doesn’t start against Chicago (yellowsnow is right), we can still win that game.

If Peyton isn’t in pads in early September, I give myself permission to totally FREAK OUT.

He practiced a walk through with the first team today

Indy Star:

Quarterback Peyton Manning continues to do whatever he can to keep up with the Colts’ preparation for their Sept. 7 regular-season opener against the Chicago Bears.

Wednesday morning, he took repetitions with the No. 1 offense during the light "walk-through’’ session before giving way to backup Jim Sorgi. Manning will continue to do that until he is cleared for heavier work.

"He’s got a routine he’s in and pretty much that’s going to be it,‘’ coach Tony Dungy said. "He’s here and involved and doing fine.’’

Dungy did not rule out the possibility of Manning playing in the preseason finale against the Cincinnati Bengals on Aug. 28, but that’s likely a long shot at best.

Wasn’t Marvin’s problem last year due to swelling? At least that’s what the Colts said. They said his knee was fine, but it was swelling that kept him out of games after light practices.

I’m hoping this all boils over and Manning ends up fine. Maybe it’s a mind game for the opponents.

No one else is reporting this or even pointing to it, so I would think that points to it being pretty fantastical the way the media would usually be all over this. Just my opinion

Follow-up surgery shouldn’t be that uncommon, like a person above said. Even if he had surgery every other day, he’s still been practicing. And there are 2 weeks left to go to get swelling down. I still think he will play against the Bears.

but in the end, there isn’t much to be done. Personally I think if he is still working out, and has started to do walk throughs he will probably be there for the opener, There really isn’t any way to predict how any one person will heal – and the thing to remember is there isn’t anything actually wrong with the knee structurally.

Let’s all take a deep breath, and hope Dungy is just playing with everyone’s head. ( i mean how many people does he list on an injury report who then are fine to play come sunday.)

I’m sure Florio is loving this

You people need to stop blowing your loads over what some dude said his “sources” told him. None of you thought it was funny or a little suspicous that he is the only person reporting this as news?

If you read 18to88 I retract my initial reaction to this report. Not only is it a little suspicious that Lombardi is the only one reporting this, but he posted this news on a no name site. He writes for SI right? why not post it there? This site has lot less credibility than say NFL.com or SI so why post it there?

plus marvin shot some dude in philly right and shattered glass on some kid then hid the gun at his car wash….according to these ‘sources’… :)

could be a 7 year old with pnemonia on the floor above where Peyton had his second surgery. We don’t know anything, and this doesn’t change anything.

The Peyton Manning news from this morning’s Diner report has caused a bit of a stir around the league, and of course the Colts are saying they don’t comment on blogger news. When did I become a blogger? Twenty three years in the NFL and all that is out the window? Seriously, I did not expect the Colts to comment, but I know my source is solid. Just to reiterate a key point, their fear is not about the second surgery, but about the swelling in his knee that is difficult to get reduced.