Shake's Fantasy Rankings
With the Stampede Blue Shakedown, and New Era Scouting fantasy football league drafts complete I can release my rankings to help anyone drafting in the last week and a half before the opener. Rankings are based off of Pro Football Prospectus' player projections (adjusted in a few places I thought were out of whack) and I recommend using the scarcity and variation study and opportunity cost drafting strategy outlined by Brian Burke at Advanced NFL Stats.
Based on the scoring used in the New Era Scouting league (most recent draft similar but not identical scoring to the Stampede Blue leagues).
Ranking after the jump.
QBs (broken into a new tier when there is a 5pt drop in projected season total to the next player or 10 point drop from the start of the tier)
- 1. P Manning
- 2. Brady
- 3 Brees
4McNabb - 5 Garrard
6 Romo
7 Roethlisb - 8 Rodgers
9 Jackson
10 Rivers
11 Palmer - 12 Favre
13 Garcia
14 Hasselbeck
15 Anderson
16 Cutler
17 Schaub
18 Bulger - 19 Delhomme
20 E Manning - 21 Croyle
- 22 Kitna
23 Alex Smith
24 Pennington - 25 Campbell
26 Russel
27 Warner
28 O'Sullivan
29 Ryan
30 Young - 31 Edwards
Massive Drop-off
- 32 Orton
33 Boller
RBs (tiered same as before)
- 1 Tomlinson
- 2 Westbrook
- 3 Peterson
- 4 Jackson
- 5 Lynch
- 6 Addai
7 Grant
8 Graham
9 Jones-Drew
10 Maroney - 11 L Johnson
12 Jacobs
13 Portis
14 McFadden - 15 Gore
16 MBIII
17 R Brown
18 Lewis
19 Mendenhall - 20 F Taylor
21 McGahee
22 Chris Johns
23 Parker - 24 James
25 Bush
26 S Young
27 T Jones
28 DeAnglo W - 29 L White
30 C Taylor - 31 J Stewart
32 K Smith - 33 J Jones
34 Forte - 35 C Brown
36 F Jones
Big Drop-Off
- 37 R Johnson
38 Norwood
39 Turner - 40 Fargas
41 Bradshaw
42 A Green - 43 P Thomas
Big Drop-Off
- 44 Ray Rice
- 45 R Williams
- 46 Deuce M
47 Foster
WRs (Same tiering)
- 1 R Moss
- 2 Owens
- 3 Wayne
4 A Johnson - 5 Burress
6 Holmes
7 Colston - 8 Edwards
9 Fitzgerald
10 C Johns (CIN) - 11 A Gonzalez
12 Galloway - 13 S. Smith
14 Jennings - 15 Evans
16 Berrian
17 Driver
18 Welker
19 White
20 Harrison
21 Houshmanzadeh
22 Holt
23 R Williams (DET) - 24 Marshall
25 Porter
26 Boldin - 27 Chambers
- 28 B Johnson
- 29 S Moss
30 Bowe
31 C Johns (DET)
32 Coles
33 Ginn
34 Cotchery - 35 Gage
36 Stallworth
37 V Jackson
38 Toomer
39 Hackett - 40 Burleson
41 Bruce
42 Ward
43 J Jones - 44 Clayton (BAL)
45 Mason
46 L Robinson - 47 Crayton
48 Bennet
49 R. Williams (TEN)
50 Rice
51 Randle El - 52 Walker
53 Booker
54 Patten
55 Wilford - 56 Gaffney
57 Hagan
58 Curry - 59 D Williams
60 Muhammad
61 Meachem
62 McCareins
63 S Smith (NY)
64 C Taylor
65 Bryant - 66 Branch
67 Hester
68 Hardy - 69 D Jackson
TEs
- 1 Gates
- 2 Witten
3 Winslow
Big Drop-Off
- 4 Gonzalez
- 5 Clark
Big Drop-Off
- 6 Cooley
- 7 Daniels
8 Shockey
9 H Miller - 10 McMichael
11 Heap
12 Watson
13 V Davis - 14 D Lee
15 Crumpler
16 Olsen
17 Z Miller
18 Scheffler
19 Carlson - 20 Shiancoe
21 Keller
22 Lewis
23 LJ Smith
24 Des Clark - 25 Utecht
26 A Smith
27 Scaife
28 King - 29 Fasano
30 Royal
31 Boss - 32 Graham
33 Pope
34 Walker - 35 F Davis
D/K
- There really isn't a ton a variance. The value just slowly drops at a pretty consistent rate. I never take a D or Kicker before the 2nd to last round in a draft with no IDPs.
With the projected point totals I got from PFP's projections adapted to the league scoring let me use the strategy Brian Burke talked about in the link above. In each player row in my spreadsheet I have columns that list the dropoff 2, 4, 6, 8, 12 and 14 players down at each position. I estimate the number of players at that position that will be taken at that position before my next pick and look to that column. The player with the biggest dropoff in that column has the best value.
If you want a copy of the spreadsheet I used for the NES draft e-mail me and I'll hook you up (click my name at the top to get to my profile which has my e-mail). And no you can't have the spreadsheet with the PFP projections now. It has my 18 to 88 league rankings and even if I deleted them it would be very quick to rebuild that formula from the projections and league scoring.
As a final note, the projections from Football Outsiders which I used have been far better at predicting declines than calling breakouts. They are the circling vultures on the guys they don't project highly, but their breakout players are hit and miss.
Hopefully this will help a few of you in your late drafts. Good Luck.
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He is listed under MBIII.
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
The problem being, he is listed way too low as well. There’s no way I’m drafting Larry Johnson, Jones-Drew, Earnest Graham, Laurence Maroney, or Darren McFadden before MBIII.
I need to stop reading this list.
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
Or is it Lawrence? Meh, he sucks regardless.
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
Not only that, but why would you list McNabb higher than Romo? McNabb has no one to throw to except Westbrook.
Clinton Portis and Frank Gore way too low on that list as well.
And there is no reason why Witten should be second to Antonio Gates. Witten is clearly better.
Anthony Gonzalez is way too high, Joey Galloway is way too high…
Let’s just say I don’t agree with a majority of this list.
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
I just noticed you have Utecht listed higher than Kevin Boss. lol What’s wrong with you shake? tsk tsk
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
What's wrong with me is that I believe FOs projections
"I ain't racin'
I'm just sprintin'
cuz I don't wanna finish
they diminish
I replenish"
-Lil Wayne "Let the beat build"
by shake n bake on Aug 26, 2008 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, their projections are crap tbh.
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
by KingRichard on Aug 26, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
where to start...
Gonzo ahead of Steve Smith, Torry Holt, and Housh? can i buy some pot from you? Holt is good for 90+ rec, 1000 yds, and 8 TD blindfolded.
the QB ranking are a mess. Garrard and McNabb in front of Romo and Roethlisberger is an absolute joke. did you know they combined to throw 68 TD passes last year? unless they give 100 points for having a high completion percentage, there’s no way Garrard goes in front of those two. and Aaron Rodgers 8th and Tavaris Jackson 9th? Did you mean 28th and 29th? those two ahead of Carson Palmer and Matt Hasslebeck…wow.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Aug 26, 2008 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
They were very up on Gonzo
he had one of the best seasons of the last 12 years on a per play basis over a decent sample size. They also expected him to be taking a sizable chunk of Marvin’s workload. I’m definitely downgrading him a bit more.
Jackson is getting bumped up by the rushing yards and TDs (only Young has a higher QB rushing projection) and helped by the NES league only penalizing INTs as -1.
Rodgers will be helped a ton by the YAC machines he has at WR.
Garrard was amazing last year. The talent around him on offense is better than last year and the ranking already accounts for the crazy low INT rate. He’s ranked there even though the projection has him throwing 4 times more INTs. He also gets a bump for the rushing. He isn’t a scrambler, but he’ll pull it down and do some damage every once and a while.
"I ain't racin'
I'm just sprintin'
cuz I don't wanna finish
they diminish
I replenish"
-Lil Wayne "Let the beat build"
by shake n bake on Aug 26, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Garrard at best is a bench warmer in fantasy.
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
by KingRichard on Aug 26, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the 12th QB taken by Average Draft Position
That’s a weak starter, very strong backup. I paired him with Jeff Garcia in the Shakedown league and feel pretty good. I’m not saying draft him in the 3rd or 4th round where the 5th QB is going in most drafts, but in the 6th round or on, you can get a very solid QB for cheap.
"I ain't racin'
I'm just sprintin'
cuz I don't wanna finish
they diminish
I replenish"
-Lil Wayne "Let the beat build"
by shake n bake on Aug 26, 2008 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.
The perception of him is as a weak starter
I think he’ll be a good starter, but take advantage of that underrating. In both my drafts when a sleeper was my best available I passed on them another round (or two) because I knew they would still be there.
"I ain't racin'
I'm just sprintin'
cuz I don't wanna finish
they diminish
I replenish"
-Lil Wayne "Let the beat build"
by shake n bake on Aug 26, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
they really shouldn't have Gonzo that high
there’s no way that he comes close to Holt or Housh’s numbers if they’re is healthy. i don’t see any way that Gonzo cracks the top 20 in the WR category. that Calvin Johnson is 20 spots behind him shows how ridiculous their projections are.
you’re right that Garrard was amazing efficient last year, but that doesn’t change the fact that Romo threw double the amount of touchdowns that he had last did. look at the talent Romo has around him compared to DG. it’s laughable to even compare. TO vs. Troy Williamson/Jerry Porter? c’mon SBake. i’ve read your posts before and i know you’re smarter than that.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Aug 26, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This is very smart.
Give your competition bogus draft guides to go by so that you can whoop up om them. But you can’t be too obvious. Sheer genius!
The only league I have left is 18 to 88
and the scoring there is weird enough that the rankings are different. I’m just trying to help.
"I ain't racin'
I'm just sprintin'
cuz I don't wanna finish
they diminish
I replenish"
-Lil Wayne "Let the beat build"
by shake n bake on Aug 26, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm totally kidding.
Actually, I love how you ranked Lynch. I believe his season will be special. Regarding your rankings, no one would agree with all of mine, either. That is why it’s all opinion. I just thought it was amusing to read some of the comments on this post about all your work, that’s all.
by coltsfanawalt on Aug 26, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get why everyone else isn't all over Lynch
He was an elite talent (12th overall) coming out of college and he isn’t just “the man” as far as the Buffalo running game goes, he’s going to be the one driving that offense.
"I ain't racin'
I'm just sprintin'
cuz I don't wanna finish
they diminish
I replenish"
-Lil Wayne "Let the beat build"
by shake n bake on Aug 26, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He is one of the few RBs un-handcuffed.
No splitting time. I also think that Buffalo will surprise people this year. Wait and see.
by coltsfanawalt on Aug 26, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
18 to 88
That is definitely one unique league. I wasn’t consistent with my lineup in it last year, as my schedule was crazy and full. I didn’t even try to play this year because I felt bad about that. But I love their idea.
by coltsfanawalt on Aug 26, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Romo is clearly the 3rd best fantasy QB
and its not even a debate. He had the second greatest fantasy season EVER last year behind Brady and he’s even going to better this season.
You pass on Romo and you’ll regret it.
In Romo we Trust
2nd best ever?
what scoring system do you use that a QB with 13 less TDs, nearly double the INTs and less yards scored more points than 2004 Peyton Manning.
"I ain't racin'
I'm just sprintin'
cuz I don't wanna finish
they diminish
I replenish"
-Lil Wayne "Let the beat build"
by shake n bake on Aug 26, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It's so obvious
Anybody who watched Romo’s season could see that it was the 2nd best fantasy season ever. Statistics are meaningless. 85% of people know that.
thats what i read in all my fantasy mags
Bradys’ last season was the best. I think you’re forgetting that Romo can run and score TDs running, unlike your boy Manning who’s lucky to have a total of 10yds rushing each year.
In Romo we Trust
Romo Rushing
129 yards, two TDs, that doesn’t equal 13 passing TDs, 9 less INTs and 200 passing yards.
Oh and Peyton’s career high rushing is higher than Romo’s 157 to 129
"I'm not racin', I'm just sprintin'
Cuz I don't wanna finish
they diminish, I replenish"
-Lil Wayne "Let the beat build"
by shake n bake on Aug 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're still wrong
13 pass TDs and 200 Passing yards > 2 rushing TDs and 90 rushing yards
"I'm not racin', I'm just sprintin'
Cuz I don't wanna finish
they diminish, I replenish"
-Lil Wayne "Let the beat build"
by shake n bake on Aug 29, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
lol dumbass
We Colts fans did not pay $720 million dollars in public funds to build a brand new stadium that will get opened on Sunday Night Football by Jim Friggin Sorgi.

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