but you used Sorgi and Lorenzen’s yards per attempt vs Gray’s yards per completion.

I still think if Gray had time to learn the offense he would be the best of the 3 by far, but if he isn’t clearly past Sorgi by the start of the season he isn’t making the roster.

But Sorgi is still the backup on this team, and will be going into the regular season. All of the comments made by the Colts would indicate this.

This is my first post on the site, and I would be remiss if I did not begin by complimenting Big Blue Shoe and crew on running an absolutely top-notch fan site. This site is my first stop every morning, and it always rewards a look.

On to the topic: I think what we are all responding to is a sense of balance and potential in Quinn Gray’s game. Sure he’s looked bad. But In preseason action, it can be difficult to sort out who deserves praise and who deserves blame when a play goes right or wrong. The team is just not firing on all cylinders, even when most of the first team is in there. But I agree with BBS. I love the courage and spirit Gray is showing.

One more piece of data useful in evaluating our quarterbacks is DVOA. I don’t have my Pro Football Prospectus in front of me, but I recall that Quinn Gray was well above replacement level, while Sorgi was at replacement level and Lorenzen was signifcantly below it. Granted, these are limited samples, but they do tell us something.

“managing a poorly called offense from Tom Moore (who called a total of 12 running plays all night, I might add), Quinn tried to make something happen.”

Didn’t it make sense to throw the ball a ton? We already have the RB situation figured out (nor did we want any of them to get hurt), it was a preseason game that didn’t matter, and we had close battles at the QB and WR positions that needed (and still may need) to be figured out.

If anything I think it was a good decision by Moore, although it didn’t help the QB’s much, it did simulate a situation in a real game where the ground game isn’t working and the QB is forced to throw the majority of it. We got to see extended time from both guys and I think it cleared up the picture much more.

I think they’re going to enter the season with three QB’s Manning, Sorgi and Gray. They’ll carry three due to the injuries at the position like Dungy said and at some point in the season — wink — when Grey gets a good grasp of the offense - wink- Sorgi will be cut.

I’ll take field goals and rare interceptions over an occasional touchdown and more interceptions. Turnovers lose games.

I’ll take the man who knows the system. It might be different if the other guy had huge upside, but none of these men do. Until some real potential rolls in, give me Sorgi and his consistency at preparation with Manning.

Oh, and Sorgi has real game experience as well. The end of season games he has started were real. People were trying to hit him. Come to think of it, even true garbage time includes people trying to hit the quarterback.

Gray, after years in the Jags program, looked far worse than starter David Garrard (18 TDs, 3INTs, 102.2 rating). He has choked away his opportunity to win Sorgi’s spot with his sloppy preseason performance. That is why Dungy started The Pillsbury Throwboy after Sorgi (who apparently has noodle knees to go with his arm) was mysteriously injured. Then after getting in the game, he throws FOUR pics! And Coach Dungy hates turnovers.

Maybe we can get Rex Grossman…
 

Sorgi is having an MRI on his knee today. If it’s bad, like 6-8 wks to return bad, do we keep him? The article on Peyton returning to practice on colts.com suggests we’re keeping an eye on the waiver wire for another QB if a worthy player shows up.

Uh, Rex Grossman, that’s funny! Please don’t give them any bad ideas. Maybe Chris Simms from TB?

 If you think Grey is an improvement over Sorgi. Grey is terrible! He makes worse decisions than Sorgi. He throws a terrible ball. He demonstrates a total lack of understanding with the offense, so on and so forth. It’s amazing to hear people endorsing Grey. Simply amazing. Sorry to go against the grain here peeps….but c’mon!

If you want a chance to win…..you have to play Sorgi. He has not demonstrated a lot recently, but he is the best alternative to losing. His statistics show that he moves the ball up and down the field, and he doesn’t throw alot of picks to TD’s….Incredible……I’m dumbfounded.

It worked before. (anybody remember what year that was?)

I would think that a box of hair is pretty dumb. It would also be dumb to keep a box of hair. I need to meditate on this………………

Lorenzen as a lineman. Good idea. Diversity is a great thing to have when trying to make a tight roster.

If you watch the game again you’ll see that Gray’s Int’s was mostly when he was out of the pocket running and instead of throwing the ball away to live for another play he forced a throw completely off balance.

Some have made the comment that he hasn’t played with the first string and needs time to get to know the system and then play with the first string, I don’t believe either will help untill and unless he becomes smarter playing with the ball and learns to waste a play when need be.