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Manning practices again, Saturday out 6-11 weeks depending on options

We'll go bad news first. Bottom line, if Jeff Saturday opts to not have surgery on his strained MCL, he's back in 6 weeks, maybe. If he does opt for surgery, he's back in 11 weeks. That means he'll likely be back in time for the San Diego game on 11/13, or the post Thanksgiving game on 11/30, which is at Cleveland. The issue here is are the Colts willing to carry Saturday on their roster the entire time he's out? This means the Colts would only really have a 52 man active roster. If Indy is willing to carry Saturday, then surgery is the best option. Get it done and get it over with; be back in time for the stretch run, and any potential post-season run. Unlike Shawne Merriman, who is a complete idiot for opting not to have surgery on two torn ligaments in his knee, Jeff Saturday is not dumb. He's in a contract year, and he's 33. Risking further injury means risking the rest of his career.

Indy should put him under the knife and shelf him until Week 11-ish. That's my opinion, anyway.

Now, the positive news. Peyton Manning practiced again Wednesday, and according to Tony Dungy (who was interviewed on ESPN's Hotlist yesterday) Manning looked sharp. The knee did not cause any problems, and Dungy essentially said he would be shocked if Manning did not start against the Bears. When asked if it was a foregone conclusion that Manning would start and play Week One, Dungy said yes.

So there. Manning will play Week One against the Bears, and rookie Steve Justice will likely be his center.

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PUP List Clarification

Does anyone know if they changed the PUP list rules this year? Phil B even mentioned PUP list for Saturday as an option but in years past you had to start Pre-season n the PUP list to be eligible. Did they change the rules this year or has all of the injury talk just gone to brains of Phil B and the Rake and Wauc (sp?) on 950AM?

by Rob-Westside on Aug 28, 2008 9:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A Foregone Conclusion..

Music to my ears….

I also hope Saturday elects to have the surgery. I mean, unless he is planning on retiring after this season’s over, why risk it? He’s a smart guy. He will make the right choice…unlike that dumbass Merriman.

April in CA

by peytonsthebest on Aug 28, 2008 10:37 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MCL Injury

Of all the knee injuries, this is the “best” one to have. It’s never great to have a knee injury, but you can easily play with a MCL problem. Steve Young had MCL problems for years and he still managed to play at a very high level. Now I know that playing QB is a lot different than playing QB, but this should heal very well without surgery. The best option would be to have surgery because not only can they repair the MCL they could also do some cleaning up if they needed to while they’re in there.

by Sanders_fan89 on Aug 28, 2008 11:02 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a joke...
Now I know that playing QB is a lot different than playing QB

That’s funny, I always thought they were pretty similar…

I also blog at Speed Blue Nation

by Bullard47 on Aug 28, 2008 11:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hahahaha

I guess it would depend upon WHICH QB you are playing…

April in CA

by peytonsthebest on Aug 28, 2008 11:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Typo

I ment playing C is different than playing QB.

by Sanders_fan89 on Aug 28, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just joshing.

You have a solid point. I suppose he will do what’s right for him. If he can play, he should – as long as it is healed enough to not re-injure….I’m so confused.

April in CA

by peytonsthebest on Aug 28, 2008 12:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

surgery and PUP

The PUP rules have not changed. Because Jeff practiced in training camp and played, he cannot be placed on the PUP list for the start of the season.

Surgery…can someone tell me how you do surgery on a STRAINED ligament? I haven’t read anywhere that it is torn, just that he strained it. I understand cleaning things up in there, but how do you repair a strained ligament?

by bamagrad01 on Aug 28, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Furthermore

Injury News Goes From Bad To Worse
Eric Hartz
ColtPower.com Aug 27, 2008

Speculation about Peyton Manning’s and Jeff Saturday’s knee injuries have dominated preseason talk for the last several weeks. But much less has been reported about some of the other injuries for the Indianapolis Colts. ColtPower has learned of one player that will likely miss the opener. Who is it, and what does it mean for the team? Get the scoop inside — a ColtPower exclusive!

Scout.com National NFL Reporter Adam Caplan has learned that Colts guard Mike Pollak, the team’s top choice in April’s NFL Draft, suffered a knee sprain in practice last week and is highly questionable for the season opener against Chicago Sept. 7. Pollak will not be available for Thursday’s game against Cincinnati.

Pollak has been in a competition with Charlie Johnson for the starting right guard position. While a starter has not yet been named, a league source told Caplan that Pollak is believed to have the inside track on the job.

Caplan has also learned that Jeff Saturday’s injury is believed to be a grade-3 MCL sprain. Caplan told ColtPower.com that type of injury usually requires six to eight weeks of recovery time.

“The upside is that type of injury doesn’t always require surgery and it can be healed up with rest and rehab,” Caplan said.

The Colts also have an injury concern with LG Ryan Lilja, who had knee surgery after last season and hasn’t practiced with the team since.

Lilja, who was set to become an unrestricted free agent after the 2007 season, signed a five-year, $20 million deal in February. A league source told Caplan that $4.5 million of that deal is guaranteed. Lilja also has a $1 million roster bonus due in March of 2009.

HARTZ’S HUNCH: After all the speculation over Peyton Manning’s balky knee this preseason, the real problem for the Colts as opening day draws near seems to be the knees of the men charged with protecting him.

Certainly, the Colts will miss Saturday, a three-time All-Pro and veteran leader of the offensive line. The Colts have hinted at using Lilja at center, but with his health still in question, that’s not a short-term solution — and an unlikely long-term one as well.

The likely scenario going forward is that rookie Steve Justice will get a trial by fire at center to start the season, Johnson will man the right guard slot until Pollak gets healthy, and either Daniel Federkeil or rookie Jamey Richard will get the nod at left guard.

What does it all mean for the Colts? Short-term, the team will continue to coach its young linemen to prepare them for the rigors of the season, and with their franchise quarterback recovering from knee surgery of his own, may have to play conservatively offensively to protect him. That means short drops, leaving more men in to protect in pass patterns and utilizing two tight end sets more.

Long-term, the focus is on getting the injured players healthy. The team may also be forced to make some decisions about the two veteran players, Saturday and Lilja. Saturday, although still a star, is in the last year of his contract and is 33 years old. Lilja should have several good years left — he turns 27 in October — but so far, the Colts are yet to see any return on the investment they made in the offseason.

by bamagrad01 on Aug 28, 2008 12:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THIS

is a bummer and makes me verrrrrry nervous.

April in CA

by peytonsthebest on Aug 28, 2008 12:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Surgery

I have had a change of heart and I say no surgery. I think the six weeks off could heal the MCL enough that he can play out the rest of his career (aka this season and playoffs) and retire on top.

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by Colts Homer on Aug 28, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN First Take

I just turned it on and they were saying something about Peyton starting for Game 1, and I missed what they said, but they said, “And that’s a very reliable source, his brother” and then they laughed, lol.

So if anyone caught that…

by MarkFive05 on Aug 28, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Surgery

I’ve been asking around to different sources about the need or no need of surgery on a strained ligament and the info I’ve been receiving is it all comes down to the severity of the strain.

What I’ve gathered is on a slight or minimal strain surgery in most cases is not required just rest and no excursion on the other hand with a ligament put in terms that I was better able to understand is like a piece of clothing with elastic around the waste there comes a point and time after being stretched beyond its purpose loses it’s capability to retract back to it’s normal position,that’s where the surgery comes in to repair it back to it’s elasticity.

by Ufanforreal on Aug 28, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First Take

I was trying to find on what site I read this morning that Dungy said after the way Peyton worked out Wed. that he will be starting for the game tonight, now he didn’t say how long or if he would be in and out during the game.

by Ufanforreal on Aug 28, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought ...

I just saw on ESPN that Peyton would be on the sideline, but not playing … Dungy said he looks good and would be “very surprised” if he didn’t start in Week 1

They had a writer on from the Fort Wayne News-Sentinel on who also said he would expect Manning to start and reinforced that he looks good in practice

Anybody else see this ?? I have heard nothing about him playing tonight

"Ryno for President 08"

by ClarkFan44 on Aug 28, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thats what I saw

last night. That Peyton would not be playing tonight. But pretty much for sure week 1.

You never know, tho. He could go in for a drive or so… Oops, this is the way rumors get started.

April in CA

by peytonsthebest on Aug 28, 2008 2:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Gray and Lorenzen suck again

he throws down the clipboard, tears off his street clothes to reveal full pads and a uniform and runs onto the field into the huddle.

"I ain't racin'
I'm just sprintin'
cuz I don't wanna finish
they diminish
I replenish"
-Lil Wayne "Let the beat build"

by shake n bake on Aug 28, 2008 2:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...

He didn’t look too happy last game…

April in CA

by peytonsthebest on Aug 28, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: First Take

I’m sorry I miss wrote on my previous post I meant to stat that Peyton would start for the reg .season game.

by Ufanforreal on Aug 28, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Manning better start and play well

I have him in 2 of my fantasy leagues where Romo was selected ahead of him. If he doesn’t throw for over 4,000+ yds and 35+ TDs I’ll be pissed.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 28, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kinda Ironic

Your rooting for Peyton to throw TDs…..he he he he

April in CA

by peytonsthebest on Aug 28, 2008 4:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've had him before

so not really. I’m not a Manning hater the way you guys are Romo haters.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 29, 2008 11:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually don't

hate Romo, as a matter of fact, I was a LONG TIME Dallas HATER (in like, 4-EVER) and I saw an interview on Total Access after the botched snap/hold/whatever with him. I actually like the kid, he seems like a good guy. I regretted seeing this interview because I could no longer hate Dallas. I mean, I don’t want them to win, but I don’t hate them anymore.

April in CA

by peytonsthebest on Aug 29, 2008 11:57 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the only QB

I truly hate is….

PHILLIP RIVERS!!!!! Punk.

April in CA

by peytonsthebest on Aug 29, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Top 5 hated.

1. Rivers
2. VY
3. Brady
4. Volek
5. McNair

Thats my 5. I have my reasons

by skywalker on Aug 30, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually like Romo

quite a bit. He’s got a helluva lot of talent and he seems like a good kid. But in Terry’s eyes, anybody who does not proclaim to the rafters that Romo will be the BEST QUARTERBACK THAT EVER WAS is a “Romo hater.”

by ctnyc on Aug 29, 2008 3:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like Romo, too.

I mean, he’s a poor man’s Jim Sorgi, but I like him.

by coltsfanawalt on Aug 29, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And

I’m sure he’ll care.

by BSanders37 on Aug 28, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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