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Preseason: Indianapolis at Carolina

Indianapolis Colts at Carolina Panthers, Aug 9, 2008 7:30 PM EDT


Open thread for todays game.


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I know it's just preseason...

...but I can’t get me enough Colts football!

by jedye on Aug 9, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Go Colts!

I’ve got WOWO streaming, but anybody know where I can watch the game online?

Also Lamey just reported the the Colts waved Clifton Dawson.

by ctnyc on Aug 9, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Kenton Keith

I’m surprised he’s still around, but I guess he is a pretty good runner – those stone hands make for a pretty mean stiff arm! If he makes the 53 I guess the Colts will be figuring hes a junk time runner for the end of games we’ve already won.

by jedye on Aug 9, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

at least it wasn't addai with the fumble

Then I would have actually been concerned.

by jedye on Aug 9, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I think

Sorgi just held on to long well at least thats what I thought I herd from Lamey

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

who's the QB next drive?

Do the colts stick with Sorgi or let someone else (eg Quinn Gray) have some time with the starters?

by jedye on Aug 9, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

this drive is looking pretty good

though it would look a lot better if Sorgi hadn’t already spotted the other team 14 points

by jedye on Aug 9, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

sorgi's qb rating

went from 0.0 before that drive to 48.1 after, possibly a personal best.

by jedye on Aug 9, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Offensive line is sputtering

Carolina is loading the box with 8 and blitzing each time. It’s a good plan since Sorgi will never throw down field. Not sure if it’s Federkiel or Johnson, but the interior is definitely getting manhandled. Ugoh is having some problems as well. It’s Sorgi’s fault too for having absolutely no pocket presence, but don’t put all the blame on him at this point.

by Aerostar193 on Aug 9, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Well some of it is on sorgi

If it was Manning in there he would have changed up the protection to adjust. Sorgi, I assume, didnt even bother

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

JEEZ

the colts just busted a Brian Billick. (on that 4th down

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

TD!!

Good to see Tamme get one

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Lorenzen

Looks better than he did last week

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Rushing

He’s returning well. He’s gone for 40 or more yards on his last two returns.

The tackles (Ferrell & Foster) looked good on the last drive.

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Howard

was he in on Carolina’s last field goal drive

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I wasn’t paying attention to the line.

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punt Coverage Sounds good too for us

It also really sucks that Comcast has 6 different channels all with the same game on right now…Redskins vs Bills, doesn’t help that I’m just North of the DC though..

by MarkFive05 on Aug 9, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

but cant the Colts for once have all of there units play well?

Last year offense and defense played well why special teams sucked.

Now special teams is playing well and D sucks. I know its preseason but its frustrating

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Lorenzen

looking way better than last week.

same as Tamme.

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

O-line struggles

Ugoh has not looked particularly good thus far.

by yellowsnow on Aug 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

ok im here. just turned it on. i got it local cuz im in SC

by skywalker on Aug 9, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

has Gray been in yet?

by skywalker on Aug 9, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Well sky

You are about the only one here that is actually watching the game lol

by MarkFive05 on Aug 9, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Hart hasn’t been in yet.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

good because i just wanted to get a second look at my two developing man crushes

by skywalker on Aug 9, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Listening to WOWO

from down in Atlanta. At least I get to go to the game next week, but this radio thing stinks. All the bars are showing the olympics instead of football.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

First Half Thoughts

Guess I’m one of the few actually watching the game so here are some thoughts…

1. Sorgi is worse then most of us thought. The Panthers were blitzing but he made NO adjustments, and as always held on to the ball too long.

2. Keith needs to go. Stone hands, no running ability. We don’t need this guy on the roster

3. Tamme is clearly a keeper. Looks totally like a Dallas Clark clone.

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

More..

4. Lorenzen is looking much better tonight though still not stellar. He has looked better then Sorgi but he isn’t getting blitzed as much either.

5. Ugoh is really having some trouble with the outside speed rush. He isn’t moving his feet and is just trying to push the rusher wide (it’s just not wide enough).

6. The interior lineman earlier in the game Johnson and Federkiel were not good. But Justice, Richards, and Pollak seem to be holding their own pretty well (albiet against lesser talent on Def).

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude...

my AIM away message right now is about my man-crushes on Marcus Howard and Mike Hart. Weird.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

i got here in time for the second half and im looking at the stats. lorenzen looks better and tamme looks outstanding

by skywalker on Aug 9, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Howard hasnt been in yet either?

by skywalker on Aug 9, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I herd he was in fot a play

just not sure how if was on there longer

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he has, he hasn’t shown up on the radar.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Personnel

It seems there are some odd personnel in so far. Lorenzen instead of Gray? Keith instead of Hart? Maybe Dungy is trying to give them a chance to prove they are worth something.

And Howard has been in for a couple plays I think.

by MarkFive05 on Aug 9, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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7. We haven’t had many 3rd and Longs with our Def so we haven’t gotten Howard in their much.

8. LBers are looking a little better tonight after the first drive.

9 Hughes is looking really strong, staying tight on his man, and picking some good moments to make breaks on the ball. Almost had one beautiful pick.

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

yea i saw that. almost a pick 6

by skywalker on Aug 9, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

aren’t we like 2-15 or something like that in the pre-season the last few years? I think maybe Dungy is putting some people in earlier than their position on the depth chart deserves to see how they would compete against real competition.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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No sign of Hart other then on special teams.

Speaking of special teams. They have really looked solid tonight on both “sides” of the ball. Rushing looks vastly improved and assertive on returns, and the coverage units have been solid when Adam hasn’t been kicking touchbacks (did they guy shoot up roids this offeason? I’ve never seen him kick so long and hard on kickoffs…)

Probably the one big thing I took from first half: Tamme looks really good, could be the 2nd coming of Clark.

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Also

The blocking has looked really good on kick returns. They’ve been able to keep almost everyone away from Rushing until he gets to the 40.

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

One Thing To Note

The last time the Colts played 5 preseason games they started out 13-0. This is important.

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

at the Lucas Oil commercial they just had on the radio.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Early play for subs

Definitely seeing some lower level talent early in the game on Def. Not so much on offense. Marvin caught a ball early too which was good to see.

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Crosset kicks a line drive

ST on the kickoff did a nice job considering that Crosset kicked a low line drive…

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

DE so eager to get to te QB. drawn offsides :(

by skywalker on Aug 9, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Panthers running our offense

They are lining up with 3 WR and then running the ball, taking advantage of us being in the Nickel…

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Guzman is not good

Guzman is really not playing well 2 games in a row. I think he’s a goner He just missed him, and tried a lazy arm tackle.

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

LB Senn in on a lot again

Senn #49 has been in on a ot again, I think Hughes caused the fumble.

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

whats is wrong with the D-Line

Are they getting man handled or just trying?

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm still worried about LB depth

I hope Sessions and Wheeler heal up soon because I’m not feeling too good about our LB depth

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

ok

for those who have a live telecast: is it the D-Line that is looking bad at the line of scrimmage or is it more to do with the LBs missing tackles

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

A little bit of both

There are some guys on the Dline that I’ve not heard of…

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silva was really heads up

Silva was really heads up on that fumble. Blocked the Panther then waived off the Colts that were coming to “celebrate” and got Guzman running. Silva should get credit for the FB return as Guzman would probably still be on the ground if it wasn’t for him.

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Sanders did that in the San Diego regualr season game

On Session’s 90 yard INT return that didn’t end up counting. Sessions picked it off and was on the ground Sanders flew by him to start blocking, when the whistle blew because the ref thought there was no way Sessions had caught that ball Sanders didn’t let Sessions stop and led blocked down the field the whole way

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just tuning in..

Nice pick by… someone. Who got that? I missed the name?

So am I right in summarizing what I haven’t seen as
Sorgi still sucks
O-line looks weaker than last week
D looks ehhh
Special teams actually look good for once
KK needs to go away
Jared Lorenzen is still fat

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like you didn’t miss much. Oh, and Marvin’s back.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Secondary seems really deep this year

As thin as we seem at LB, we seem VERY deep in the secondary. There was some backside pressure on the play but it didn’t factor into the interception. The pass was well thrown, it was perfect defense and a great break on the ball

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Chad Simpson?

We have a RB named Chat Simpson? Who is that? I’ve been trying to pay attention this offseason but that name is drawing a blank.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

undrafted rookie

very very fast

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've only heard him talked about as a possible return man

I didn’t hear anybody really up on his RB skills.

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ratliff made the pick

Where’s Hart? Simpson is in now… I don’t get it?

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

No idea who he is

no idea but damn, that was a nice little run. Practice Squad for him?

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give him time. He’s still our best hope at a reliable back-up.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we are bashing sorgi for a 9 attempt day

we should give Gray more than 5

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thiink its more

the other offensive players around him committing penalties

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

but his throws have NOT been sharp tonight.

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

NFL.com Game Center

has Lornezen with 1 carry for 24 yards, should I be taking a screen shot to make fun of them again or did that really happen.

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

That really happened.

He was like a freight train that no one wanted to tackle…A fat freight train but still

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penalties

False start then delay of game? Come on, really offense. No excuse for that.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah that was a nice stop

It’s SO NICE to see special teams coverage that doesn’t make me stabbity.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

#69 Bradley

Anyone heard much about this guy? He’s been in at DT most of the night. Not seeing anything special from him but he’s been in A LOT

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

huge cushion

maybe it’s just because it’s a bunch of young guys out there playing it safe, but what’s with the huge cushions our DBs are giving people?

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Hart

WHEN CAN WE SEE HIM RUN!?

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

how much

has howard been in for since the start of the second half

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s just a beast. I do want to see him against some first-string people at some point though.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rhodes?

You think Hart could push Rhodes for his job?

by MarkFive05 on Aug 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

NFL.com was free audio when a team is in the red zone

off of the gamecenter

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

*has*

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that was anticlimactic

nice pick by the guy for carolina, but that was a bit forced in there.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Lorenzen has been the best QB so far

eww

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Oy

Well that’s not a sentence I really want to hear coming out of this game.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said Quinn just not sharp tonight

I still think he’s the best long term backup option but he’s not having a good night

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Guzman was decent on that 2nd and short

I complained about him earlier so I figured I’d better give him some love

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

jeez what the hell is this

if you play second you do well and if you play last you do poorly?

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a HORRIBLE pick by Gray

Reminded me of Jeff George…no read on the safety…just lob it out there and hope for the best. Not good

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

What is up...

What is up with these pre-season games were we just pass, pass and pass again?

Can we at least try to run it?

by MasterRWayne on Aug 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice sack by Foster!!!

he had an offsides earlier, but man that was a hell of an effort on the sack.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome effort by Hart

... on a SHITTY pass by Gray.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

can someone please tell me

What personnel are on the field on offense right now?

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by Bullard47 on Aug 9, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

At least

For that last drive

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by Bullard47 on Aug 9, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really rememer

sorry. I know it was Gray and I think Hart, beyond that I don’t really remember.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Over

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

bad snap

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

NEVER MIND!

Haha! Tony Romo was traded?

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

No OT

am i the only one who wishes they WOULDN’T do OT in preseason. If it’s tied at the end of 4 quarters, just call the game a tie. No need to risk injury in MORE pointless preseason time

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

PRESEASON OVERTIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

WOOOOO!

Let’s put some good personnel on the field and wrap this up

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by Bullard47 on Aug 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I need more beer for this crap.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Tell the DBs

just go for the pick just end this one way or the other

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

was that TJ Rushing that got burnt so badly on that play? That was uuuuuuuuugly.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Rushing not playing well at CB

Not that I care because I think they should have just let the guy run it out

by Rob-Westside on Aug 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Giordono was pretty out of position too it seemed

but as you said, not that I care. Preseason Overtime is pretty much the most pointless thing ever.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks shake

looks like you got your wish

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by Bullard47 on Aug 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Hooay!!

More pointless football!!! More opportunity for injuries!!!!

/stupid preseason

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

As if having 5 preseason games isn't enough

Seriously, teh NFL needs to eliminate overtime in preseason. It’’s completely pointless.

by jdb on Aug 9, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

If There Was No Preseason

Then Sorgi and Keith would still be favorites to make the roster. Preseason is incredibly important.

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops

I missed the overtime part. There I agree with you.

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

It never hurts to get some more looks at the 3rd and 4th stringers. Maybe we will see someone with a desire to win.

by SeattleColt on Aug 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If a linebacker gets injured, I’m writing a letter to Goodell.

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

LB on offense?

Anyway….hopefully Vinatieri kicks this so it is over.

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by Bullard47 on Aug 9, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

???????????

Why did we not kick the damn field goal and end this fiasco

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by Bullard47 on Aug 9, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Howard

Listening to Lamey. Is Marcus Howard even playing this game? He isn’t showing up as having done anything. Is he getting shut down or what?

by hoosierdore on Aug 9, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t get the game on TV, but it would have 51 yarder. I see there is a 12 mph wind, but maybe it was was from the wrong direction

by SeattleColt on Aug 9, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

the refs

blow just as much as our D

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Preseason overtime

is awwwweeeesooooommmmeeee!!!!
lol

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Do you realize

That if not for Jim Sorgi spotting them 14 this game is over a long time ago?

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by Bullard47 on Aug 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe It Will End Now

47 yarder.

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

ITS OVER!

Finally!!!

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

the D needs to seriously improve

the way the panthers ran the ball, it reminded me of the 2006 Defense.

Atrocious

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Only 4.3 a carry for the Panthers

I think it was just the 48 attempts that made it seem bad, and 2006 like.

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

for Indy

4.3 for the Panthers

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by shake n bake on Aug 9, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

Sorry. I’ve had some problems today. I need a little bit more sleep. Too bad the Olympics are out east.

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by Colts Homer on Aug 9, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

you sure?

Lammy said something like 5 yards +

by metal_militia on Aug 9, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep in mind

This was our 2nd Preseason game and Carolina’s first. I think that results in some differences in effort and the number of plays for starters. etc.

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