Checking the mocks

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lol

terrence cody would look so out of place in a colts 4-3 defence, he’d eat raheem brock for breakfast.

http://www.irun.com/users/6967/downloads/Jays%20Win%20Back-to-Back%20World%20Series.mp3

by torontocoltsfan on Jan 11, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I don’t understand the format of this post. Could you clean it up a bit it’s kind of confusing. Also, Terrence Cody isn’t coming out, he decided to stay at Alabama for another year.

by KingRichard on Jan 11, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

a bit better?

Shonn Greene for Heisman
Doak Walker award winner
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Jan 11, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah thanks.

by KingRichard on Jan 11, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought Cody hasn't decided yet

Since everyone is still listing him as considering.

If Cody lost 30 pounds and got a bit quicker, he would be perfect. Right now Jerry is the best option for the Colts. I still see us drafting an offensive player in the first round. It’s just the Colts way.

by Colts Homer on Jan 11, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Negative. He’s already made it official he is staying at Alabama.

by KingRichard on Jan 11, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

lmao at the Everette Brown one

That’s why individual team sites aren’t the best ones for mock drafts. I have tried to learn teams’ needs so I didn’t make the same mistake.

Walter Football is my favorite draft site, although I don’t think he knows team needs too well. He’s just good at projecting when a player will go, which is why I like to reference him. There is one that is amazing, but it costs money. I can get to player pages if I type in their name and the name of the site into google though. I can’t remember its name right now.

I want the Colts to draft Jerry or Marks in round one, but an offensive tackle is what I think they will draft. Someone like Jason Smith or that guy from Arizona.

by Colts Homer on Jan 11, 2009 4:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

It is really tough to get a standout player later on in the draft for both the DT and OT position so I am really interested on the route the Colts will take. I think they should go DT if they can, but I wouldn’t be suprised if they drafted a different position knowing Polian…he is always one step ahead of people.

by ColtsFanNChiTown on Jan 11, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

also depends on what is there

in the position you pick… need is a big factor, but sometimes there is just such a good player who falls to you, that is is hard to pass up on them..

An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing...

by bluegirl on Jan 11, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

every year as we hear and read more about the draft it becomes easy to forget that we’re never right about what Polian ends up doing. I agree that a DT or OT sounds like the best idea but chances are it will be something none of us have seriously suggested.

We should continue to speculate because it’s fun but realistically, we have no fucking clue. If anything, it seems like we should look to what position has players that are 2-3 years away from retiring or becoming irrelevant and assume that’s what we’ll end up with

by psvirsky on Jan 11, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with both (bluegirl and psvirsky)

If there is a game changing player left on the board, I think it is almost a guarantee that Polian will pick him up…I thought I head him saying something like that in the past. I also started to think at first that Polian could end up drafting a CB, but until he mentioned that the Colts will more than likely re-sign Hayden, I am taking the CB out of the equation for the first few rounds if not all.

by ColtsFanNChiTown on Jan 11, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

With Cody and Raji definitely being 3-4 NT DTs, but honestly (and I don’t 100% believe this but it’s an interesting take), if they got either one of the big guys, they could stand Mathis up and have him work his end along the lines of Harrison and Ware. Those guys really are DEs but people consider them LBs because they stand up. I’d never suggest standing Freeney up because he has a sick bull rush. But I think Mathis would gain a significant advantage being 1 yard off the line. He’s only 245, alot of LBs are bigger than that. It’d also prevent alot of that "Well, I’ll just grab his facemask or give him a hug because refs never call holding against that.) And Foster’s really a DE so having big mofo right there would help him get his pressure on.

Ooo, or maybe we could do the 1-5-5 prowl and just leave Cody on the line by himself. I’d love to see a team actually try to use that formation consistently.

With that said, I hope they get Perry or Marks. But I think it’s an interesting take.

by monstersbox on Jan 11, 2009 5:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

doubt they'd do it

but the idea is awfully enticing…

by psvirsky on Jan 11, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah he would look out of place but ...

isn’t this the sort of player the colts sorely lack but need. I mean we’ve been wanting a big run stopper. Who else is there of his sort of buid?

by sharpie1600 on Jan 11, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Peria Jerry

Definently fits the scheme. Ive never seem him play, but from what alot of scouts are saying and his body type, he is one of those quick DT’s that cover defenses look for.

by metal_militia on Jan 11, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Marvin's replacement

is who we need to draft.

His name is Hakeem Nicks, a 6’1" 210 lb. junior out of UNC.
And we can get him with the 29th pick;

http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/nicks_hakeem00.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z21IeyH49xg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_aMQ2R7dYQ

by HoosierHorseman on Jan 12, 2009 9:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

The Colts already have his replacement, his name is Anthony Gonzalez. The last thing the Colts need to do is draft another receiver in the first round when they still have Roy Hall and Pierre Garcon who have been in the system for a while now and can be more affective than any rookie. I just can’t stand all of this talk about drafting another receiver in the first round when that spot is arguably the strongest on the entire team. I wouldn’t care if they drafted a late rounder to work up, but seriously, enough with the WR talk.

This like will remain in my signature until the Colts draft a stud running back in 2009 so I can tell you I told you so.

by KingRichard on Jan 12, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Also, he isn’t even the best receiver in the draft that the Colts could pick up.

This like will remain in my signature until the Colts draft a stud running back in 2009 so I can tell you I told you so.

by KingRichard on Jan 12, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Roy Hall? Pierre Garcon?

Are you serious? As for the “enough with the WR talk”, I was under the impression this was an open forum.
Nicks has the physicality and skills to be the best slot reciever in the league, allowing Gonzales to move to his natural position as wideout.
I assume you are referring to Percy Harvin, the fragile Florida WR.
Just what we need, ANOTHER Roy Hall.

by HoosierHorseman on Jan 12, 2009 10:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

What is so ridiculous about me bringing up the fact that we haven’t see what those guys are made of? Pierre Garcon and Hakeem are basically the same size, although I’m almost positive Garcon’s 40 time blows Hakeem’s out of the water. Hakeem is slow as hell for a guy his size, running around a 4.51 40. And compared to his counterparts by the name of Michael Crabtree (4.48), Jeremy Maclin (4.33), Percy Harvin (4.32), Darrius Heyward-Bay, who in my opinion is a far superior player to Nicks (4.33—scorcher much?), Louis Murphy, who’s numbers are down only because Percy Harvin is a phenom (4.33), Juaquin Iglesias (4.44).

All of these guys with the acception of Harvin are Nicks’ size or bigger in some cases, but yet they are all faster, and arguably more impressive in my opinion. My biggest beef is we haven’t seen enough of Roy Hall and Pierre Garcon to really judge where fit on the team. They’ve just been in limbo basically for the past year or so, past 2 in Hall’s case. I agree it’s pretty annoying that Roy Hall is constantly injured, but I’m willing to give him one more year because he’s revered highly by the coaching staff, and that has to account for something.

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t consider taller receivers like Nicks to be a the type who should play in the slot. I think the slot is best reserved for people like Stokley. Extremely fast and shifty guys who can cause mismatches in the middle of the field while taller receivers stretch the field. But that’s just my opinion.

You can call Harvin fragile all you want, but when a guy is basically your entire offense and puts up insane numbers in both the receiving and rushing department, you can’t knock him on that. Oh and let’s not forget he played in that BCS title game with a high ankle sprain, a hairline fracture in his leg, and he still put up awesome numbers.

This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft a stud running back in 2009 so I can tell you I told you so.

by KingRichard on Jan 12, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Harvin

Is the only guy I’ve made a case about over a DT. Because he’s not just a receiver, he can run better than decent. And with the media demonizing Marvin, fair or unfairly, and if he doesn’t want to restructure, knowing Polian he might be gone. And you guys are right, Gonzo is definitely not a slot guy, he plays much better at flanker, and I’d rather not have Dallas play as a slot receiver who sometimes plays TE. I wouldn’t want a WR or a RB in the first round if Peria Jerry or Sen’derrick Marks are still on the board though. And aside from Moreno and Wells, there aren’t 1st round RBs in the draft. Now let me explain that, there’s not 1st round RBs the Colts are going to think won’t still have a chance to be in the 2nd or 3rd rounds so it’d be silly to take one over guys that they know won’t be there. It’s a crapshoot. And Harvin would be a different type of receiver than what we have now. Gonzalez and Wayne are very similar in style. You don’t always want that. Either a small, super quick guy with good moves or a 6’4+ is much better than a slower version of Wayne and Gonzo.

Richard’s right though, overall it’s probably just a silly idea for a WR anyway. I actually really like Garcon and think he could fit into the slot and do extremely well. There’s a link of him from last year on the site returning kicks. And he did well when he got to start, but he got injured. Granted it was a garbage game. He wouldn’t be able to run like Harvin, but that wouldn’t be a strong argument if they got a Shonn Green or a Rashad Jennings to spell Addai anyway. And that can be done in the later rounds.

If no Harvin, if the Colts draft another skill position and not a DT (especially) or a LB, I’ll be dissapointed. But I trust Polian in whatever decision he makes. If he thinks we need a WR then we need a WR. I just don’t see it.

by monstersbox on Jan 12, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh and btw, obviously this is an open forum, which gives me the right to express my opinion on your opinion. I’m not sitting here calling you stupid or anything, just arguing my point.

This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft a stud running back in 2009 so I can tell you I told you so.

by KingRichard on Jan 12, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree...I do not think drafting a WR is the best option in the first round

I am pretty confident with Garcon, not so much with Hall but we’ll see. From what I saw with Garcon, he had good route running and good hands.

by ColtsFanNChiTown on Jan 12, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Just my Opinion

If Pitcock and Johnson were still on the team we probably would be talking about the O-Line, WR corps or running back positions. You only get so many high picks and we don’t need a 1st round all-pro type NT. Polian found those guys and he can find more with lower picks.

What makes the Colts exceptional is the passing game. We need exceptional recievers more than we need an exceptional NT.

Our recieving corps is deteriorating, if Marvin leaves there is going to big a big hole at at least one position, and that will be this coming season.
There’s nothing wrong with seeing how Hall and Garcon do, but realistically they likely will only ever be backups. I hope I’m wrong. But while we are waiting and seeing, our passing game won’t be as good, obviously.
Remember how good we looked when Peyton had all 4 weapons; Marvin, Reggie, Dallas AND Brandon Stokely? That’s what we need again.

Hakeem Nicks is a big-time playmaker who is going to be a steal for someone in the draft, I don’t want it to be the Patriots or Chargers. And he’s a junior, he would play for us a long time. We can draft a 1st round NT in 2010, but we can’t leave Peyton out there with limited options.

Peyton needs a complete set of the best WRs we can possibly get for him.

by HoosierHorseman on Jan 12, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

BTW, Harvin's numbers really weren't all that good this year

He has all the physical tools you want, I understand that, but Nicks had over 1,000 yards this year, he has improved dramatically every year, and he’s just a junior, so the sky’s the limit on how much better he can get. And he’s one guy you don’t have to worry about getting hurt. Check out the 1st and 3rd links I posted, if nothing else.

by HoosierHorseman on Jan 12, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

OOPS

One more post. You are right about Harvin being faster, and he is more like Marvin than Nicks.
I misspoke earlier when I said Nicks was Marvin’s replacement. I just meant he was the replacement for one WR position. Really, I envision Nicks as Brandon Stokely’s belated replacement.
No one would be happier than me if both Garcon and Hall worked out, but what do we do next year with Marvin gone if they don’t?
I guess we will find out on draft day how much confidence the Colts have in them.

by HoosierHorseman on Jan 12, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs