Player Review: Jim Sorgi
by shake n bake on Jan 22, 2009 8:58 PM EST
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Who is Jim Sorgi really?
Is he the quarterback who was outplayed through 3 games by Quinn Gray (who was unemployed until being picked up by the Cheifs to ride the bench after they lost their 1st and 2nd QBs), but won by default as Gray self destructed while Sorgi watched sidelined with a knee injury? Or is he the victorious hero of the week 17 Sorgi Orgi, KSK's week 17 Meast of the Week and the player that was better per play* value put him in the top 1/3rd of starting QBs this season.
*=I used Sorgi's VOA (DVOA without the Defense adjustment) since DVOA doesn't know the Titans sat starters.
Not at all the same
| Time | Attempts | Comp% | Yards | TDs | INTs | Y/A | ANY/A | Rating |
| Preseason | 31 | 64.5 | 198 | 0 | 1 | 6.4 | 4.7 | 69.0 |
| Week 17 | 30 | 73.3 | 178 | 0 |
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5.9 | 5.9 | 87.9 |
So what changed?
Actually not a whole lot. One pass makes up half the Comp%, 2/3rds the difference in ANY/A and without it Sorgi's QB rating would actually be higher in preseason. The major difference between Preseason and Week 17 was one pick. That's the problem with small samples.
So if Sorgi didn't play all that different were we too hard on him in preseason or too soft on him after the week 17 win (and I do think it being an easy victory had a bit to do with how his play was percieved)?
Sorgi is signed for the next two seasons for 1.35 and 1.55 million.
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I hope
we see a much better Sorgi in the upcoming preseason. I have been pretty hard on him, but he is taught by Peyton freaking Manning so he should show some improvement and ability to actually play well. I kind of think Sorgi can possibly do a Matt Cassel. Not the part where Manning goes down (god forbid), but show that he is capable of being at least decent if called upon.
If we ever
Have to actually examine the merits of Sorgi before Manning retires, we have much deeper issues than trying to find an image and his 40 yard dash times. By the way, everytime his name comes up I’m going to say “Dude, Sorgi has a 4.6 40.” And apparently he says he’s faster than that. I don’t know about you, but I was impressed.
This needs to be addressed
I think Indy need to look at the QB position in the Draft this year. There aren’t that many offensive needs but we need to look at the possibility of getting a Project Quarterback, in and around the 4th. I don’t want Indy to wait until Manning isn’t there before finding out Sorgi can’t cut it.
Drafting a QB
Would be a complete waste of a pick this year. This is one of the weaker QB drafts in quite awhile. You’ve got like 2-3 dudes that’ll go in the 1-2 range (Sanchez, Stafford, maybe Freeman), and then you have :
"Tip: don’t even watch the quarterbacks this Saturday during the game. Every quarterback here took a slight hit to their draft stock. No one has been accurate. No one has been consistent in a positive way. The defensive backs had a field day as balls were thrown like cupcakes on deep routes in skeleton drills. Nathan Brown showed poor touch on the ball again and really struggled. He threw a ball eight yards over Manuel Johnson’s head on a drag route, which just disgusted everyone who saw it. Rhett Bomar showed little zip and floated balls too much. Graham Harrell’s arm gets weaker every time I see it, but he is doing the best job of picking up the playbook and getting the ball out before receivers break their routes. None of these quarterbacks are draftable within the first four rounds, that’s for sure. "
That’s from WalterFootball. And while I understand you could say “it’s just this guy’s opinion”, that’s actually what I’ve been hearing from pretty much everyone. And the only QBs that aren’t seniors are Stafford, Nate Davis, Freeman, and Sanchez. . And I think Sanchez has an 80% chance to be a huge bust. If you can consider someone who only threw 487 passes to have shown everything they needed to show, that’s on you. His decision to enter the draft and the consensus about him is pretty much based on his bowl game.
Just strictly based off experience, if Manning got hurt next year (please no), Sorgi’s chances of success would be significantly higher than anyone in the draft. And Manning has probably 5-6 years left in him. You draft a 22 year old now, he’s going to be 28 before he even sees the field. Especially when we have other significant positions we need to address.
And yeah, sure, Sorgi’s not some dude you’re going to start chanting “Bench Peyton! We want Sorgi!” if Peyton has a bad game, and I know most of his playing time came in games we didn’t need Peyton on the field for, but not all of those teams took those games as lightly as the Titans did. And for what it’s worth, his career rating is 89.9 over the course of about 7 full games.
By the way, Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That’s all I’ve got to say about that.
Sanchez
Having watched him play a few times this year, I would reinforce the assessment. He never scared/impressed me the way that Leinart or even Booty did. In fact I kind of see him as a poor man’s Leinart, and maybe even not that good. He seemed to step up against Penn State, but I’m not sure how strong Penn State really was even having won their conference.
I agree about Sanchez and
I think the only reason that he declared is because it is a poor year for QBs. Stafford doesn’t impress me either. So, since there are really no good QBs in the draft this year, this is the year Sanchez will cash in. If he waited until next year, forget about it. You’ll have Tebow, Harrell and Bradford. Sanchez doesn’t want to compete with those guys…he just can’t.
He is completely unimpressive to me. Somewhat “Sorgi-esque”
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jan 23, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
dont forget
Colt McCoy next year. He would have been a top 10 pick this year in my opinion. The boy can play.
I knew I left someone out.
You are absolutely right. Just imagine if our Peyton had Mccoy’s ability to scramble…ooohhh, I get chills just thinking about it!!!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jan 23, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
He's actually the one I'd like
But I seriously doubt we can pull that off unless he has an average season. I dig him, great leader.
I really wish people would jump off of the Stafford bandwagon. That guy is so goddamn overrated it’s sickening.
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
by KingRichard on Jan 23, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
addition
If I were the Lions I would pass on Stafford and just start Orlovsky. He played pretty good last year I thought.
This line will remain in my signature until the Colts draft Rashad Jennings in 2009.
by KingRichard on Jan 23, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Sorgi
I think Sorgi does fine as a backup QB. He’s shown that he has the skill to play, but he’s never had an opportunity to develop real consistency, as he’s not played a long stretch of games. If he got a chance to settle in and run an offense for a few games, he would probably do very well. I think people ask too much of Sorgi…backup QBs in the NFL are usually backups for a reason, Matt Cassells are very few and far between, and you’re not going to sign a top-flight QB to a small contract to carry a clipboard. I think Sorgi has the mental toughness and the skill to take over and win some games if god forbid he was forced to, but don’t expect him to play like we forgot Peyton was there. Everyone would have to step up in that event.
Several years from now, when it’s time to start thinking about the post-Peyton era and devoting the appropriate resources to that, then yeah you might look to draft a top-flight QB to develop and train for a seamless transition of power, but for now, Sorgi does the backup job well enough. I’d rather that the contract money a big name rookie QB would demand go toward developing the lines and some run-stopping personnel.
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