Player Review: Dominic Rhodes
Dom not only escaped from the soul crushing pit of despair that is Oakland, he did it with his pockets stuffed full of Al Davis' money.
In a touching gesture the Colts OL taylored their blocking to match Oakland's easing Dom back into Indy.
| Games | Carries | Yards | YPC | TDs | DYAR | DVOA | Suc Rate | Rec | Yards | TDs | Catch % |
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| 15 | 152 | 538 | 3.5 | 6 | 31(35th) | -5.0% (36th) | 49% (12th) | 45 | 302 | 3 | 76% | 0 |
Free Agent, 2008 contract-645K
Dom is a solid back. He can catch, he can block, he's a straight ahead runner who takes what the OL gives him. Dom is a jack of all trades, master of none. He's a great #2 back and can step into a 1b role, but he's not a top back for a good running game. Dom should be brought back if he's willing to take another cheap, slightly above veteran minimum deal. If Dom returns he should take enough carries to keep Addai healthy, but he's not the better back. 30-40% of the carries.
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Just curious,
why do you say ’he’s not the better back’. I hate to keep bringing this up, but people just keep saying it as if Addai was Manning and Rhodes is Sorgi. My eye test says that Rhodes was better this year, and your stats show that that he was slightly better in some areas, slightly worse in DVOA, and equal every where else. I’m struggling to see what people are seeing that makes Addai the better back RIGHT NOW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmGdAPjcgaM&eurl=http://www.only17points.com/&feature=player_embedded
by Nideak on Jan 7, 2009 10:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Addai was better in 2006
and they were similar this year even though Addai was banged up and Dom was mostly healthy.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
Doak Walker award winner
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Jan 7, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2006 was 3 years ago.
Seriously, thats my point, 3 years ago Addai was a much better back. This year he was not, and with running backs and football players in general, the past is no promise for the future.
I’m not trying to be argumentative, but just because Addai was the better back in his rookie year doesn’t mean he is this year.
The past 2 seasons have put up a more disturbing trend: Addai cannot stay healthy. He was nicked up a lot of last year and he was nicked up a good portion of this season.
Finally, there is a difference between Addai and Rhodes this year: Whenever Addai was the starter, he had someone to spell him in every game (Rhodes was never hurt). In every game Rhodes was the starter he was forced to play 90% of the game.
I think 3 factors lead to Rhodes being the better back right this moment:
1) Rhodes is more durable (sorry, Dom, I know I just jinxed you)
2) This offensive line cannot block the stretch play, and thats the only type of run Addai seems really good at (I know that shake is gonna come with some DVOA that says Addai is good up the middle)
3) (or 2b) You have GOT to be able to run up the gut in this league. You can’t run wide on 3rd and 1. You just can’t, not with any consistency. The fastest way to get one yard is a straight line.
I hope Addai can return to form, otherwise I wasted money on a 29 jersey :D, but right now? Rhodes is not the inferior back, lets put it that way… jmo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmGdAPjcgaM&eurl=http://www.only17points.com/&feature=player_embedded
by Nideak on Jan 7, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No problem with some disagreement
if we all agreed on the players I wouldn’t have done this.
Re 2: The Colts were having good “power success” (running conversion % on 3rd/4th down with 2 or less to go) for the first half of the season, but we all know that didn’t last.
I know I come off as an Addai apologist, but early in the season I was advocating using him less because he was getting 80 percent of the carries which he showed in 2007 he can’t handle.
I think Addai is the best back on the team, but that for most of the last two seasons the Colts have over used him.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
Doak Walker award winner
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Jan 7, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I'm not advocating getting rid of him
First, he’s cheap.
Second, he’s young.
Its not like I think Dom is the second coming of Jim Brown. Addai clearly has the higher ceiling. He lacks the top end speed to be an elite back, imo, but I think he has the TOOLS to be slightly better than post knee-injury Edge, but he has to 1) Stay healthy 2) Stop dancing. What I love about Edge (and I’m opposed to bringing him back next year) is that you rarely see him stopped for a loss, he never stops moving his legs. Addai is starting to remind me of Maurice Wells (ohio state)… dances a lot and will go down if someone says BOO.
Anyhow, I’m hoping he returns to form (which will be greatly assisted by the OL getting better), but I don’t think he’s appreciably better than Rhodes at this moment in time, and I think the Colts need to have something better than Ball, Simpson, or Hart as a Plan B next year (Not that I don’t like Ball or Hart, but they are relatively unknown. Simpson, I’m not sure, loved him in the middle of the year, towards the end he started going too east and west for me, on runs and kick offs, maybe it was just the ankle, still, need to see more). With Rhodes, you know what you’re going to get. If you need 3 yards, he’ll get you 3 yards. If you need 10 yards, he’ll get you 3 yards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmGdAPjcgaM&eurl=http://www.only17points.com/&feature=player_embedded
by Nideak on Jan 7, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because
Addai’s been injured and still producing about as well as Rhodes is healthy.
by monstersbox on Jan 7, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my theory on the Dom vs Addai stuff
Dom is much less frustrating to watch than Addai when they are struggling.
When there’s no hole and Dom runs straight into the line for no gain, you think “there was nothing there.”
When there’s no hole and Addai dances around behind the line before falling forward for no gain you think “Addai needs to dance less.”
Shonn Greene for Heisman
Doak Walker award winner
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Jan 7, 2009 10:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
exactly
I’ve been more on your side of the argument but hadn’t been able to put it into words and this is it. IMO there were never many holes to run through this year at all and I guess the difference is that Rhodes hits the no-hole and shows you there’s no hole while Addai keeps looking for it and looks silly doing it
by psvirsky on Jan 7, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Addai’s not really dragging down our cap, and Dom showed last year that he wants to get paid. So he’ll probably find a team that’ll give him 2-3 mil and Joe will be less expensive. I think at this point we have to realize that there’s a good possibility that neither one is starter material and we’ll have to go to either a committee or 50/50. Although I personally haven’t given up on Addai.
But the way I see it, Rhodes was healthy, Addai was not. Addai might have been more frustrating to watch, but he performed pretty much almost exactly the same as a healthy Dom. But even when Addai was banged up, he still showed flashes of why we let Dom go in the first place. Polian’s not going to have both Addai and Rhodes making 2 mil + each. Rhodes is older, Addai has the potential to recover from his injuries. Dom’ll be 30 next year and that’s the year where most people kick their RBs in the crotch and say “Thanks for the memories!”. Of course Dom hasn’t been abused as much as most other backs, but he’s still seen his use. We’ve never been married to our backs no matter how good they were. Polian will probably let Dom go if he wants more than 1.5 and either pickup a UFA, monitor Hart’s status, or pick up a RB in later rounds.
And I can be accused of homerism quite often, but an honest opinion from me is that, when healthy, Addai is easily in the top 10 best backs in the league and I’d personally say top 5. L.T., Peterson, Portis, Westbrook, Addai.
And honestly, if we’re going to be signing a split carry type guy for around the 1.5-2 mil range, I’d 100% be behind them getting Buckhalter for a few years. He’s a phenomenal runner, he’s actually the better of the two RUNNING backs in Philly. But he’s also a great receiver and even though he’s had injuries before, doesn’t have a ton of wear. He’s actually almost the exact same type of back that if I were drafting, I’d be looking for a player with similar skillsets. Downhill runner with above average power, excellent pass blocking, great hands, breakaway speed, great angles. Too bad Chester Taylor isn’t a FA. We could get him on the cheap for a couple years. I figure we could get Buckhalter for 2-3 years at about 1.2-1.5 per year.
I seriously hope the Colts consider this.
by monstersbox on Jan 7, 2009 10:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Like I’ve been saying for a while now, the Colts need to draft another running back. IMO, the Colts should draft OT/DT in the first two rounds, and then go for a RB in the third. Hopefully (prays to Seyton) Shonn Greene is available because he is a prime example of the type of complimentary back that Addai needs. He’s a bigger, faster, stronger, and younger version of Rhodes. Once I found out he declared eligibility for the 2009 draft, I almost busted one in my pants.
by KingRichard on Jan 7, 2009 10:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't say Rhodes
He’s much heavier, can’t catch, and is a power runner. He’s much more like a Jerome Bettis type back.
by monstersbox on Jan 7, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not that he can’t catch, he just wasn’t very involved in the passing game.
by KingRichard on Jan 7, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Card Carrying Member of the Greene Party here
but I want nothing to do with Greene as a pro until he shows up to the combine still in shape and doesn’t act like a shithead in is interviews (like Manningham did last year). If he answers the work ethic and character questions with those to then we can talk about whether he has the hands.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
Doak Walker award winner
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Jan 7, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Love Rhodes
But it’s time to let him go. The Colts need some fresh blood at RB, a good compliment to Addai. I am with KR on this one, the first three rounds should compose of a OL, RB, DT. In whatever order it works out best.
by yellowsnow on Jan 7, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
To be perfectly honest
Well, we definitely need to get a DT and that’s our first priority. It’s been a weakness for years and we’ve never really gone after someone through the draft. We’ve tried to bandaid our way for years and sometimes it works out better than others. So I’d still say DT at #1. But a very very interesting possibility would be to either try to trade up or cross our fingers in the second round and see if we can get Percy Harvin. I’d actually go as far to say we might be able to trade our pretty much worthless first round pick for a higher second round pick and maybe a 4th or 5th round pick. Whatever they want to do with the draft is up to them, but I think Harvin would actually fix multiple deficiencies we have. He’s actually considered to be similar to Bush or Deshaun Jackson. I’ll tell you straight up that the RB position isn’t the only thing without a super bright outlook. I could see him as developing into our true deep threat, returner (this is actually one of our weakest phases of the game), and he’s actually pretty decent runner. I understand he’s not a power runner, but if he could be anywhere close to what Westbrook or Bush are, along with providing a deep threat and a legit return game I say go for it.
Probably won’t happen, but I can dream. Seriously, watch this and think of what he, Peyton, and everyone else could accomplish with a guy like this on the team. Wow…I’d better stop, I think I just might’ve talked myself into taking a DT in the second round and Percy in the 1st….
by monstersbox on Jan 7, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Check it out at 1:45ish
I know he has all those great runs, but when he gets through that hole and accelerates like that it’s crazy. That DB had the angle and wasn’t slow. It wasn’t a slouch team, it was Arkansas. Alot of what was in there had ranked teams. And I know he’s had a couple injuries, but if he didn’t, we’d have no chance at all at him. He’d never make it past pick 20. Colts being at the bottom every year have to gamble every now and again (Addai). But I actually think his build isn’t as flimsy as Bush or Jackson. He’s not big, but he has the build that if you didn’t see him standing next to other players, you’d think he was.
by monstersbox on Jan 7, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And more highlights in the next video comparing him with DeSean
(which of course I watched with a tear in my eye – I do miss him!)
Percy this year, Jahvid Best next year…. ah to dream
This guy’s awesome!!
by LovinBlue on Jan 7, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there are some mock drafts that have harvin lasting to our pick,
http://www.irun.com/users/6967/downloads/Jays%20Win%20Back-to-Back%20World%20Series.mp3
by torontocoltsfan on Jan 7, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm overstating this...
I’ve never played sports professionally, but I think Rhodes brings something to this team that no one else (especially on offense) does… an edge, some emotion… I don’t mean rah rah rah stuff, but Rhodes seems like he could burst out of his skin at any moment, but its not nervous, uncontrolled energy. I forgot to mention that earlier, but I always liked that about Dom. I’m not talkin about celebrated after a first down, but he just always seems to be on the sidelines or on the field tryin to do what Mike Vanderjagt always wanted someone to do!:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmGdAPjcgaM&eurl=http://www.only17points.com/&feature=player_embedded
by Nideak on Jan 7, 2009 5:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vandershank...lol'd
I love me some Dom – always have, always will.
I WANT:
Dom
Edge
Addai
Hart
Jacobs
I know its alot…but Jacobs can always switch off to guard…anyone?
/out of touch with reality…
I still can’t shake the feeling that we SHOULD HAVE WON that game…its all so surreal.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jan 7, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So
Are the player reviews going alphabetical by position or just in a random order? I’m just curious. That’s all.
by Colts Homer on Jan 7, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Up next:
Roy Hall…
Shake is getting the quick ones out of the way, first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmGdAPjcgaM&eurl=http://www.only17points.com/&feature=player_embedded
by Nideak on Jan 7, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well actually it's
Hart, SImpson a RB review, then safeties (Bethea)*
order of positions is subject to change in order to keep me interested.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
Doak Walker award winner
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Jan 7, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was just
bein a smartass:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmGdAPjcgaM&eurl=http://www.only17points.com/&feature=player_embedded
by Nideak on Jan 7, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
positional by most alphabetical player
and just whatever order I feel like within the position after the first guy.
actually working on Mike Hart’s right now.
Shonn Greene for Heisman
Doak Walker award winner
144 yards per game
6.2 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA
by shake n bake on Jan 7, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dom
Overall, I think the Colts are going to have a lot of depth at RB next season, and Dom is a big part of that. I wouldn’t consider him the #1 guy, but he’s a great to have in your pocket when it’s time to give Addai a breather. If Mike Hart stays healthy for the 09 season, the RB position will that much more formidable. He has the potential to be our “Darren Sproles” and be a huge X factor.
The RBs themselves are a pretty good group…the O line they play behind needs to help them out more.
by JaysonAych on Jan 8, 2009 1:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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