NFL Network's RedZone Colts stat of the week: Week Five
by BigBlueShoe on Oct 13, 2009 10:41 AM EDT
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Following the NY Jets Week Two win over the New England Patriots, NFL Sirius radio personality Pat Kirwan was raving about how "tough" the NY Jets defense was and how much he loved Rex Ryan blitzing the hell out of people. When a caller phoned in to talk about the Colts defense, Kirwan pointed out that teams (like the Jaguars) are not "afraid" of the Colts, suggesting Indy was not "tough" enough to handle teams that liked to run the ball.
Well, after watching the Miami Dolphins torch the Jets for 30 points last night, carving them up on the ground with the Wild Cat and through the air with Chad Henne, I wonder if Kirwan will admit that he was... well, WRONG! Seriously, when you blitz a QB, you better get him because if you don't, he'll hit Ted Ginn Jr. on a long TD that will make your supposedly tough defense look like swiss friggin cheese.
Oh, and the Jets allowed 151 rushing yards and a last second fourth quarter TD to Ronnie Brown, winning the game for the Dolphins. Not knocking the Jets or anything. This is more a knock on Kirwan, who is kind of a tool. He seems to love blitzing defenses and hates "prevent defense," aka the Tampa 2.
After five weeks, the Colts defense is ranked 7th in total defense, which is a silly statistic because it only considers average yards per game, and yards are about as meaningless a stat as time of possession is. The key defensive stats are:
- The Colts are the #2 scoring defense in football (14.2 points per game)
- The Colts have the #7 pass defense in football
- The Colts are #2 in average passing completion yards per game (5.5)
- The Colts are #6 in opposing QB rating (71.1)
- The Colts are #8 in sacks (13 total), with most of them coming from the defensive line (10)
- The Colts have only allowed 7 pass plays over 20 yards and have not allowed any over 40
- The Colts have moved from ranking near the bottom in run defense to #14 in the league. Throw out the Dolphins game, which seems to be a fluke because other supposedly "tough" defense can't figure out how to stop it, and the yards against is nearly cut in half (277 yards). That means (minus the Dolphins game) the Colts have allowed 277 rushing yards on 38 attempts for an average of 3.7 a carry.
This is a dramatic improvement over last year's defense, and much of the credit should go to Jim Caldwell and Larry Coyer. Remember, the Colts are doing this without Bob Sanders and Kelvin Hayden as both have missed several games due to injury.
Look for shake n bake's DVOA rankings and mgrex03's more advanced stats later in the week.
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The D is SOLID
Rock solid. And with the bye, they’ve got time to heal up a little and inflict some pain on St. Louis before they hit though tough second half of their sked.
by slash196 on Oct 13, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Careful
You’re taking away his excuse you Colts fans use every year when he chokes it up in the playoffs. He’s had a top ten defense 4 times in his career and has been ousted in the first playoff game every time. This will be the third year in a row with a top ten defense. Last year he was named MVP and put up a whopping 17 points against the 26th ranked passing defense and his only TD was on a gotcha play. Lots of skill in that one. Manning already has more first playoff game losses than any QB in history. What will be your excuse for him this time.
by PeytonIsAChoker on Oct 13, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Were you beaten as a child or something? Does it hurt you to be the only fool in the known universe who STILL thinks “PeytonIsAChoker?” Next thing you’ll tell me is Peyton can’t win the big one.
Get some new friggin material, pal.
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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 13, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
Chill BigBlue. Let’s try to control ourselves and let Peyton’s play do the talking. I know how annoying that crap is but still… Last thing we need is tarnishing our reputation as a classy fan base for a classy team.
Oh no!
by Bluedude on Oct 13, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bluedude
Peyton’s play has already done the talking. Anyone who thinks Peyton Manning is a playoff choker is a complete and total f*cking idiot. He’s the kind of person who gets laughed at, to his face, my his own mother when he says something like that.
Patriots fans don’t even think this anymore. If someone comes in here and starts talking the same old talking points from four years ago, they deserve nothing but ridicule. While this douchebag is off in the corner, mumbling to himself that Peyton is a “choker,” the rest of the civilized world is measuring his HUGE CRANIUM for Canton.
BTW, this guy created his account today and the above comment was his first post. We have a general rule here that anyone can say anything as long as it is backed up by facts and common sense. Anything else is troll bait.
Calling Peyton Manning a choker is dangerous close to troll bait.
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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 13, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks BBS, I was ready to fight that stupid idiot.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
by Indy Lori on Oct 13, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BigBlue
I mean, yeah I understand what you are saying.
It’s just, you know. The fan base and team here take their pride in being classy, and letting one idiot come in and just throw our class right the window is not cool. Heck, I’m as annoyed about it as you are, considering I had to fight that argument for years for living outside of Indiana for a bit in the past.
But is it ok to go as far as swearing and everything? That I’m not sure about.
Oh no!
by Bluedude on Oct 13, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I keep forgetting the famous NFL "do-over" rules
They negate so-called gotcha plays. “No fair man, Joey was tyin’ his shoe. Do-over.” Because those plays—won with brains and execution rather than Lombardiesque 3-yard runs up the gut—never really happen in the NFL and don’t really count. I am sure that when one of your opponents’ DBs blows coverage, you are willing to decline the TD and reset the ball on the old LOS so you can have a do-over, because a gotcha play is beneath your dignity.
In order for someone to have more playoff losses than anyone else, one probably has to be IN the playoffs more than anyone else? You know what, Bill Gates has lost more money than you or I ever will—he’s probably the poorest man in the US and a complete loser! I truly pity him, don’t you? Your attempt at making a point lacks all context.
How do you rank that 26th pass D? I am curious because you seem so clever. You see, the traditional rankings go by yards, and last I checked, the Ws are not given out based on yardage. In addition, the traditional rankings track a whole season as well, so a team allowing 500 pasisng yards per game for the first month, and then 150 per game for the remainder of the season, will seem pretty crappy by the traditional measures, even though Week 1 has nothing to do with Week 18 performance. Trends matter, as does context. If you provide some, maybe there is a chance for meaningful dialogue, but I am not holding my breath. Your screen name clearly wins you free beers in Boston bars, but otherwise confirms that you are a troglodyte. When you discover fire and the wheel, feel free to continue this discussion.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
by Bobman on Oct 13, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for brazen sarcasm
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on Oct 13, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he doesn't suck
…and every game played prove more and more that he was a product of a system and a great defense.
By the way, Pat Kirwan’s not too bad, they’re a little bandwagonish on Sirius now. I don’t really listen to them anymore.
Jim Sorgi runs a 4.6 40. That's all I've got to say about that.
by monstersbox on Oct 13, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bandwagoners
Can’t stand them. They’re basically people who don’t stand by their convictions. Hence, the “tool” label.
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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 13, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hate the measurement of defense with yards
Games are not decided by yards, they are decided by points.
Oh btw, for Colts Pass D:
You have to take into account the number of attempts against the Colts, Colts have the 2nd highest attempts per game against them (this reminds me… didn’t Warner attempt like 50 passes against the Colts?). So, sure the Colts may be 7th yardage wise, but are they really number 7 yards per attempt or yards per completion?
Oh no!
by Bluedude on Oct 13, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Peyton's Playoff Stats etc.. broken down
He’s had 15 playoff games. In those 15 games, more than half of all his post season 22 TDs came from just 3 games. In the remaining 12 games he has 10 TDs and 16 INTs. That’s less than 1 TD a game a more than 1 INT. He’s only scored more than 18 points once in his 8 losses. If you can’t score points you can’t win. His regular season average is 26.6. How many teams have won a playoff game in the last 11 years scoring 18 or less ? 11 or 10 %. Doesn’t give your team much of a chance to win, does it ? But I know, it’s his defense.
Now on to his Superbowl run. He had the lowest playoff passer rating of any winning Superbowl QB. He also was the only winning QB to win a playoff game without scoring a TD(all field goals). He is also the only winning QB to throw more than twice as many INTs than TDs in the playoffs and still win the Superbowl. If those stats don’t scream choker or a QB that was being carried by his defense, I don’t know what does. He had one good game against the Pats with a ton of help from the refs. His Superbowl was mediocre at best and his two first playoff games were the worst two consecutive playoff games by any SB winning QB besides Bradshaw and he had the Steel Curtain. Like I stated before, he had a top ten defense four times and did squat to help them out in the first playoff games. 18 points isn’t going to cut it. Looking forward to watch him fail miserably again this post season. And the excuses will come again.
by PeytonIsAChoker on Oct 13, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brady(17 games) vs. Manning(15 games) Post Season
Triple digit passer rating games- Brady(6) Manning(3)
Multiple TD games – Brady(8) Manning(4)
60 % plus completion games – Brady(11)Manning(7)
20 points plus games _ Brady(13)Manning(7)
Multiple INT games – Manning(5) Brady(3)
Zero TD games – Manning(4) Brady(2)
50% completion or less games – Manning(4) Brady(0)
Less than 20 point games – Manning(8) Brady(4)
Games with less than 70 rating – Manning (5) Brady(2)
First playoff games exits – Manning(6) Brady(0) 6, I believe an NFL QB record
by PeytonIsAChoker on Oct 13, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
odds all these cherry picked numbers are cribbed straight from a CHFF post?
2:1?
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 13, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot one statistic
Dubious rules named after a QB: Brady (3)- Manning (0)
"Winning is not everything;the desire to win is" - Vince Lombardi
by rangerover76 on Oct 13, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't named after Manning,
But the Pass interference rules were changed because of him.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 3, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love that with Brady back down to earth the trolls have to go back to cherry picking from a small sample
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 13, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As I recall from grad school
My stats professor required a minimum N of 20 for any reliable results. If you have less data, you can only work with what you’ve got of course… but it’s considered less than reliable.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
by Bobman on Oct 13, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bluedude- " Let his play do the talking"
I watch every year as he puts up huge numbers , wins MVPs, etc.. only to watch him become average in the post season. Nothing has changed even during his Superbowl run. That had to be one of the least impressive runs by any QB ever. Not what you would expect from the great Peyton Manning. He also had the lowest rating in the Superbowl than any Superbowl MVP ever. He can thank all his supporters for that one. Meanwhile his RBs put themselves in the record books.
Playoff performance is cherry picking ? It’s only built the legacy of some of the greatest QBs all-time. You Colt fans are ridiculous. So proud of your QB and his ONE Superbowl out of 9 playoff appearances. This year will be his 10th, tying him with Marino and Elway for appearances. One more and he’s tied for the most all-time with Favre and Montana. You sure don’t expect too much do you Colt fans? You would think that the greatest QB of all-time that carries his team year after year, has already accumulated 3 MVPs could do more than 1 Superbowl and 6 first game playoff exits. But Colts fans are happy with his regular season performances. After all, that’s more important that winning playoff games or Championships. LOL!
by PeytonIsAChoker on Oct 13, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Subtle reminder
Let’s refrain from the trolling, ok. Anymore of the above stuff and I have to start deleting comments. I don’t like doing that, but I simply will not allow your stupidity to hijack this thread.
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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 13, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little bit off-topic
but how do you perceive Brady? As THE greatest clutch QB of all-time, or tied with Montana or someone else? Perhaps even a little lower on the list?
It’s just that Brady hasn’t been that clutch either as of late, and if Manning’s a choker, then shouldn’t Brady also be labelled as a such by now?
by jocre on Oct 13, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jocre
We’ve been down this road. We know this guy is not thinking logically. Don’t feed the trolls, please. I’ve asked him to stop commenting here. Plz don’t encourage him.
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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 13, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No prob
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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 14, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One ring? Don't you mean first ring?
Its funny how you use superbowls as a measurement of individual performance. Amazing how you found stats that confirmed what many of us already know… Brady has outperformed Manning in the playoffs. You’re football genius knows no bounds. Aren’t statistics amassed for coaches and manipulated by dip sh…people like you? I have a feeling we won’t be seeing much of you come the playoffs. Oh wait, just saw you posted this at 10:58am, was trying not to speculate that you are a loser but it seems confirmed. But on the bright side, you may be willing to be our punching bag on our SB march, simply because you have nothing else to do. Looking forward to it!
by Kibbles.n.Vicks on Oct 13, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We Still Have a Questionable D
There is a reason Kirwan is not as high on our D as most of us fans are – the teams we have beaten this season are not the cream of the crop.
Jags: 2-3
Miami: 2-3
Arizona: 2-2
Seattle: 2-3
Titans: 0-5
I think our Defense is much better than it has been the last 3 seasons. Mathis is playing Pro Bowl level again, the young corners are looking super sweet, and we’re taking it to the QBs. I believe Coach Coyer is a better match for our talent than Ron Meeks ever was. And, Coyer actually has something in his pocket other than a soft cover-2 that gets eaten alive by the power runners. If you don’t believe was a problem, all you have to do is look at his record against the run in Carolina this year.
BUT, until we play hard against a power run team (like the Ravens), there will still be doubts. We wiggled past the Jags, and only Manning’s ability to consistently score TDs in less than a minute let us beat Miami. By my count that two very close games with teams that have a strong running game. The other teams were suffering from runner, o-line or QB injury issues when we played them.
by Grendels04 on Oct 13, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you can look at the Arizona and even the Titans game
to see that the Colts’ defense is legit. They completely shut down arguably one of the top 5 passing offenses in the league with Warner, Fitzgerald, and Boldin, then they turned around and held the #1 running back (statistically) Chris Johnson to 9 carries for 34 yards.
The Jags wasn’t as close as the score indicated; the offense made some very rare turnovers in that game. Also the Ravens aren’t really running the ball like did last year, and even last season ,our defense held the Ravens to 3 points with their power running style.
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by KMR24 on Oct 13, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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