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Welcome to Schmuckville; Population: Ed Johnson

I'm having a hard time coming up with something to describe this tidbit of news that does not involve a long series of curse words, most of which involving the word f*ck. So, I'll just let Paul Kuharsky do the talking for me:

So much has gone right for the Indianapolis Colts as they’ve run out to a 5-0 record. But ESPN.com senior writer John Clayton is reporting the team has parted ways with a key contributor, cutting defensive tackle Ed Johnson.

A 5-0 start. A defense that is starting to dominate. Everything looking on the up and up. Then... this.

We have no reasoning why Big Ed was cut. What we do know is that he came back to the this team in May under a zero tolerance clause . This meant that if he did anything, ANYTHING to violate that policy in the slightest, it was back to the unemployment line. This latest termination from the Colts is also likely the end of Ed's football career. No one touched him after the Colts cut him last year for violating his previous zero tolerance clause. Why would anyone touch him now? And if he did something serious to warrant this, he'll likely be suspended again by Commissioner Roger Goodell.

I'm so disappointed in Ed Johnson right now it makes me sick.

From the Colts standpoint, they will be fine. They can re-sign Adrian Grady or Terrance Taylor, and likely they'll start integrating second round pick Fili Moala into the rotation, which needed to start happening soon anyway. Indy has talent on the defensive line, and stopping the run will not be the slap stick comedy it was last year. Guys like Antonio Johnson, Daniel Muir, and Eric Foster seem to be bringing it every week.

What makes me want to vomit is just how STUPID Ed Johnson has been. Other than violating his tolerance policy, the only other reason I can think of for Indy to cut him is that maybe he was dogging it during games. On his radio show last night, Bill Polian said this, emphasis mine (Tip to SpazMo):

There are areas on defense we can improve, particularly in terms of all-out hustle all the time. We had some people like (defensive end) Keyunta Dawson that really stepped up and did a great job of that, but there are other people who can improve upon what they're doing.

I haven't gone back and looked at the tape, but maybe Ed was one of the people Polian was referring to in that statement. I don't know, and at this point I don't care. Ed was given his second chance and he seems to have flushed that down the toilet.

Now, we move on.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I absolutely refuse to allow yet another Ed Johnson f*ck up to distract me from enjoying my team.

Colts cut DT Ed Johnson, again

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I can't believe

he would be cut just for “doggin’ it” – demoted maybe, but to cut a very good player for this reason wouldn’t be very smart.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Oct 13, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah that doesn't seem to be the likely issue

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by psvirsky on Oct 13, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said BBS

I for one, am pulling for Grady to be signed.

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by AussieColtsFan on Oct 13, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

latest from Schefter is no news

ntmanning: @Adam_Schefter why is ed Johnson cut?

Adam_Schefter: Lot of people asking this and I don’t have answer yet.

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/4847587912

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by shake n bake on Oct 13, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's weird

I wonder if this really is a complicated situation. If it’s zero tolerance, it could have been a very minor disciplinary reason and the Colts want to make sure they get it exactly right for legal reasons. Don’t want a Jim O’Brien situation (Ohio State, not Pacers coach).

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by psvirsky on Oct 13, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would suck

If this was really ticky tack. He seems to be well liked by the players in the locker room, so I don’t see that.

I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation

by Bullard47 on Oct 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did throw up in my mouth

a little bit! What the fuck! 5-0, on the bye week and rolling to the division title. I went to work pumped up today…..Sanders, Hayden, Jackson, CJ and Gonzo coming back and then get this shit! I don’t know that we need him, but it was nice to have him. I live near PSU, and remember them ripping him in the local press. Guess they were right. What a piece of shit! Wasted talent, wasted talent.

by indyboys on Oct 13, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fyi...

Polian is not too sure Sanders or Marlin will be back after the bye. Sounds like Marlin might be out for a bit.

Unbelievable this Ed Johnson story. But then again, we don’t know why this happened. Obviously we all assume Ed f’ed up again, and rightfully so.

To all the chicken little’s out there, Ed made an impact no doubt. But the fact that no one picked him up last year, when players like Pacman Jones and Chris Henry are repeatedly given another chance, leads me to believe Ed is/wasn’t THAT great.

Ironic that he is cut at the beginning of the bye. Methinks Ed went for another joy ride on 465 after the Titan’s victory thinking he had a full 2 weeks to clean up his act before the next game.

What a joke. Next man up. Fili?

by Matic on Oct 13, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll let it ruin my day

until WSOP comes on at 9:00, then I’ll forget all about him forever.

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by Cassieper on Oct 13, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pocast

Doing a podcast in 15 minutes to discuss Ed.

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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 13, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Expect a call from me

This situation is maddening.

I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation

by Bullard47 on Oct 13, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can call in?

I might have to try that sometime.

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by Cassieper on Oct 13, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just about to ask for a bye week podcast.

Good timing.

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by Cassieper on Oct 13, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you'll talk about more than Tokes during the podcast.

We are 5-0 going into a bye week during which we’ll get most of our injured players back.

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by Cassieper on Oct 13, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just... what in God's name did he do??

Look, I know no one knows. But it’s the obvious question to throw at any Colts front office staffer: WTF did Big Ed do?

Flabbergasted doesn’t even begin to describe how I’m feeling.

by aldctjoc on Oct 13, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damnit

This just in….

Ed Johnson forgets to make bed, cut by Colts

I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation

by Bullard47 on Oct 13, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice try.

But I peeked at the link at the lower left corner before deciding whether to click on it.

So HA!

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by Cassieper on Oct 13, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder

If clicking that actually gets you somewhere.

Yes, yes it does, exactly where you would belong.

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by Bullard47 on Oct 13, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a chance.

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by Cassieper on Oct 13, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually chuckled a bit

Thanks for the pick-me-up, Bullard.

by Aerostar193 on Oct 13, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I try

I’m so flabbergasted right now. My only savior is humor.

I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation

by Bullard47 on Oct 13, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to assume it's an off-the-field incident

Even if he was dogging it on the field, I would expect a demotion, not an all out cut. It’s strange, but he obviously violated the zero tolerance policy.

by Gwen on Oct 13, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Just wow.

What a stupid piece of sh**. I agree with the statement that as a team, this isn’t exactly catastrophic. We may not even notice. This is a great opportunity for guys like Fili Moala and (please, please, please) Adrian Grady should we resign him. Moala will be healthy for St. Louis I would guess, so maybe he’ll contribute, and as a guy who followed Grady for his entire college career, I can tell you this: the kid is all heart, all passion, all work ethic, and is a good all around person. The one thing the Colts have done that disappointed me is cut him, and this is a perfect opportunity to resign him.

Back to Ed. Nothing makes me shake my head more than a guy with all pro talent who just doesn’t have the respect for the game. People would kill to be in his shoes, and there are thousands of players with 100x the heart he has with 1/100th the talent who will never make it. And he just doesn’t give a flying f*ck. Screw Ed, bring on Fili, Grady, Taylor, or whoever. Somebody who appreciates the opportunity they are given. Most kids grow up wanting to be a pro athlete. It makes me sick when people squander this for selfish reasons.

Now…..in the slim chance that he was cut for reasons OUTSIDE of off-field issues, then I take back all I said above. But I highly doubt that is the case. Time for the young guys to step up now and show Ed what it means to appreciate football.

by npb1985 on Oct 13, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grady

I know he looked good in the preseason, but he was cut by the Rams…a team that may be even worse than the Lions of last year.

by GuruBlue on Oct 13, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know....

I just really liked the guy’s effort. I’m sure we’ll sign someone as a backup, like Terrance Taylor.

by npb1985 on Oct 13, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure

Not sure how he could have been cut for just “dogging it” during a couple of games. But, now that my dreams are shattered, it looks like two things need to happen.

1. Accellerate the transition from college to NFL for Fili Moala. We are going to need him as part of the rotation now.

2. Sign Grady or Taylor. Either one is fine. They both have talent and are somewhat familiar with the defense.

We are going to need a DT to take Ed’s place. I don’t want to get “thin” at this position again because injuries happen and we will need someone to step up.

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by AceOfSpades on Oct 13, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't even want the idiot playing

for my Colts if he’s stupid enough to throw away all that talent (and money) so he can sit on the couch and get high, or whatever stupid reason.

The one bright spot I can see is the timing, because of the bye.
It’s possible the Colts are making a trade for or picking up someone and wanted to give them an extra week to get acclimated.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 13, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just read the last sentence of your post BBS

I didn’t even read it half way through until I decided to rant. That sentence sums up my sentiments perfectly. Screw Ed Johnson. He’s an idiot, but we don’t need guys like that and we will move on without him, and with ease.

by npb1985 on Oct 13, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This isnt really emotional, although Im sure people will say it so

but this severely hurts the Colts defense. Ed (Just to differentiate the Johnsons) was routinely getting the double team. The worst part was, he was, for the most part, still getting more push while being doubled than Antonio was/is. That dominant pass rush we’ve seen the past few weeks? We’ll see if they can keep it up without a DT that dictates a double team. Really disappointing that the Colts were able to overcome injuries just to have this happen.

by SpazMo on Oct 13, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Severely hurts?

No. No it doesn’t. It will be different, but not a torpedo. We are much better on the D line than last year (last few years, really). Ed is a defensive player we can replace. Whoever we replace him with will not be much of a step down.

by npb1985 on Oct 13, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

id be willing

to put money where my mouth is on this one. Aggregate defense over the course of the year vs the defensive stats that are already on the board. Let me know. =)

by SpazMo on Oct 13, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree somewhat

I wouldn’t characterize it as a severe impact, but Ed will be missed. He has great speed off the line and holds blockers well. He is a major reason why the run D has played so much better and the LBs are making more plays.

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by AceOfSpades on Oct 13, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I'm guessing thats a no?

Nothing more irritating than people that make ‘matter of fact’ statemenst with no matters or facts, and then just disappear when called on it. =) If you change your mind, my offers opened indefinitely, unless the Colts make some sort of deal that upgrades the DT position. You don’t draft multple DTs, switch some of your current DTs to DE because you want to get bigger, then bring back a former DT because he’s the best option of them all, then lose him and go back to the 268lb starter (or whatever Foster is), and not be severely impacted. Are you really not piecing together that Ed Johnson = better pass rush, better rush defense, and better linebacker play this year?

by SpazMo on Oct 14, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is wrong with you people? No one even knows the entire story so what’s the point in lambasting him for something he may or may not have done?

Obviously Polian isn’t about to make a rash decision so there must be some legitimate reason for him being cut, I get that. But at the same time, we don’t know if it’s because Ed did something wrong, or just didn’t play up to snuff.

Hit em with your groin!

by KingRichard on Oct 13, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Play up to snuff?

That may be true, but getting straight up cut for it would be shocking. If it is anything other than they found him with weed or something similar I would be shocked.

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by Colts Homer on Oct 13, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, first time for everything

KingRichard is the voice of reason. What is the world coming to.

by kasey_junk on Oct 13, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have my moments.

Hit em with your groin!

by KingRichard on Oct 13, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This hurts

But not as much as it did last year. The defense as a whole is much better than it was last year. Daniel Muir will have to keep it up. At least we drafted a defensive tackle in the 2nd round.

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Oct 13, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As a Trojan, I hope the aftermath of this is Fili Moala seizing the opportunity that’s been afforded to him.

by hyphenated11 on Oct 13, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Boo

"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."

by Colts Homer on Oct 13, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sorry you went to UCLA. Some people just make bad decisions I guess.

:-)

by hyphenated11 on Oct 13, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he went to Purdue.

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by Cassieper on Oct 13, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Typo.

I meant Notre Dame.

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by Cassieper on Oct 13, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes sense too.

Though it will mark the first time I’ve ever had a Notre Dame fan do that. (I guess part of it is because I don’t know many Notre Dame fans). UCLA people always seem lippier.

by hyphenated11 on Oct 13, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Notre Dame fans are excited...

they don’t know that they are losing this coming Saturday yet.

ALL HAIL WEIS! LOSER OF BIG GAMES!!

/and he is there for how many more years cause of a contract?

Go Colts!

by Marked Hoosier on Oct 13, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We won't miss a beat!

It’s not great news, but if he’s still a stoner, it could come back to haunt us at some point. I say, next man up, and let’s keep riding this wave!

by Ayrshire on Oct 13, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Agree some what

I just looked up Ed’s stats and he is tied for second on the d-line with 11 tackles, E Foster has 11 too as Ed’s back-up. We have to remember that Mr. Polian knows what he is doing and just trust that he’ll make the right moves to keep our defense clicking.

by Cover2 on Oct 13, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tackles has nothing to do with how a DT plays

Tackles for loss are a nice bonus, but regular old tackles are not that useful for judging their play.

by willyduer on Oct 14, 2009 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We dont know for sure at this point, this may not be drug related at all, I am eagerly awaiting the full story. I think we needed to start getting Fili Moala into the lineup, Muir has looked good and is good at getting to the QB. I think we shouldn’t miss a beat as long as Moala can play well, b/c it now appears he will get his chance.

by GuruBlue on Oct 13, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Next man up

is John Gill from the practice squad. Terrance Taylor showed me absolutely nothing in the preseason and likely the Colts talent evaluators as well, given that the 4th round pick didn’t merit the practice squad. As for Adrian Grady, I don’t know. He’s been cut by three teams already this year. Are there anymore Anthony Johnsons on another team’s practice squad?

by True__Blue on Oct 13, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

After thinking about this some more

I think that the only logical explanation is that Big Ed violated some team or drug policy and the Colts were forced to part ways with him.

I want there to be a trade scenario, but if there were a trade in the works, I don’t understand why they wouldn’t have kept him until the transaction took place – I believe he has a minimum contract so it’s not like a team would overpay for him.

If he was being called out for doggin’ it, he would have likely just been demoted until he showed up with a better attitude.

If he were injured tripping off the plane coming back from Nashville, he would have been put on IR.

Sigh. It is what it is. Now it’s just a waiting game to learn how Polian will fill the roster spot.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Oct 13, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here is another quote from a poster at the forum on colts.com

“per JMV’s facebook account (for those that don’t know he is a local sports talk show host in Indianapolis) Ed Johnson was cut for performance reasons not for off the field issues.”

This is shocking to me.

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by bluecru on Oct 14, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

interesting

I just took a look at the game again to see if there was any lack of effort on his part. I didn’t see anything like that, though I did note that he may be the slowest runner I’ve ever seen. He’s much slower than any of the other DTs, including Mookie.

He didn’t stand out in either a good or bad way in terms of how he played in the middle. Once the game got out of hand the pass rushers got almost all the snaps – Ed played one snap, at DE, in the final 20 minutes of the game (the one where 3 of them got there and sacked Collins). Before that, he played one snap at NT with Foster next to him, and otherwise every snap was with Mookie.

So who knows. It can’t be a practice thing, because they haven’t practiced since the game… I think.

by willyduer on Oct 14, 2009 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trades

when it comes to trades and free agency the colts are the least likely team to do it. But times are changing. Could Polian be up to something?

Anyone know the cap hit for Dorsey? I’m looking at you shake.

I think a 2nd or 3rd rounder is ok value for him. Would they really be looking to trade though?

As long as we have Peyton we will always have a chance to win.

by skywalker on Oct 14, 2009 1:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who cares what the cap hit is?

If he’s not playing well enough to get on the field for the Chiefs, how much good could be possibly be?

I completely forgot about him. Talk about a wasted first round pick.

by willyduer on Oct 14, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the thing is

he is playing. apparently the coaching staff in KC are not that high on him. Everyone knows OUR coaching staff is a different beast compared to others. I think Glenn Dorsey would be a nice pick up.

As long as we have Peyton we will always have a chance to win.

by skywalker on Oct 14, 2009 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well I did like him in college

unlike that other highly drafted LSU gentleman with the 40% completion rate…

by willyduer on Oct 14, 2009 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FO's numbers say Russell had a worse day sunday than even Derrick Anderson

Anderson only turned the ball over once. Russell had 3 fumbles.

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by shake n bake on Oct 14, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

Chiefs run a 3-4 so he is completely out of position. The cap hit would be too much though.

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by Colts Homer on Oct 14, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might want to hold off on the pitchforks and torches...

Maybe he’s hurt, maybe they’re making a roster move, or maybe he’s pursuing his childhood dream of hunting jackalope. Nobody really knows anything at this point except the Colts. Could be somebody outperformed him eh? I wanted to see Moala eventually take over as the starter anyway. Hopefully Johnson didn’t do anything stupid to cause this, but it’s not like Polian didn’t spend the entire offseason addressing the DT situation. Pretty sure we’re better equipped to handle this than previous seasons.

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by monstersbox on Oct 14, 2009 7:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I do believe that I made my opinion known around here that I thought the resigning of Ed Johnson was a sad day that signified the death of the Tony Dungy era I was then ridiculed and told ‘its just pot’ and I agreed that pot should be legal, but it wasn’t and if they guy couldn’t be smart enough to avoid illegal drugs that he shouldn’t play on our team… And I was then told ‘it was just pot’ and I dropped the conversation. I’m not going to say I’m happy about Ed being let go, because I’m not, I was rooting for him and the team is playing as well as I have seen any Colts team ever play, but I would like to say to the readers of stampedeblue;

I told you so.

by shep31 on Oct 14, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hold ur horses so to speak (no pun intended)

we still dont know if it is pot related or not. in fact certain media outlets have been told its a performance issue. go easy on the guy until we find the real reason.

As long as we have Peyton we will always have a chance to win.

by skywalker on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The end of the Tony Dungy era???

The same Dungy who fought to get Vick back in the league…the same Dungy who truely believes in second chances? You told us nothing…you know nothing…the rumor is that it is due to poor play…

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by TRDean on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it were performance related

don’t you think it would have been handled like Tony Ugoh’s performance related benching was handled. To me that is the precedent for how the Colts handle performance related issues with starters.

by True__Blue on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I dont think it would have been handled like that at all. We gave up a 1st rounder to get Ugoh we invested a lot of time and money, he may be valuable at G or RT but at LT I haven’t seen many Colts play the position worse.
Johnson, well we didn’t give up anything to get and he was really, really easy to get rid of. The position is deep this year, and we’ve got young guys behind him. We dont have that at LT.

Either way Ed could have played his way into a longterm deal with the Colts regardless and he failed to do that, now if it was based of performance or something else I really dont know.

by shep31 on Oct 14, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From a comments at 18to88
written by Preston, October 13, 2009
I’m sorry but I rewatched all of the first half of the titians game after this news with the idea of evaluating eds play, and i came to the conclusion that he had NOTHING to do with our success against the run in that game. Instantly jumping the the conclusion that we wont be good against the run with him no longer on the team is silly. There were several run plays where ed got blown off the line of scrimmage and the rest of the d stepped up and did a nice job. imo he was easily our worst dt in the titians game, to heavy, not fast, and not particularly strong (didn’t use good leverage) he also didn’t show good effort. thats my 2 cents anyway.

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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 14, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Link

http://18to88.com/links/archives/ed-johnson-cut.html

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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 14, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I did say it was the end of the Dungy era, that was the move that signified that. Because Dungy had already given Ed a chance and was on ‘zero tolerance’. Dungy wouldn’t have taken him back… what kind of precedent does that set? What would Ed be on a “negative one tolerance policy”? Thats why. Ed had already been given his 2nd chance. Caldwell gave him another. Right or wrong it was a departure from the Dungy era.

And I never said the release this time was due to an illegal substance or not. What I did say is that Ed Johnson isn’t a very smart person. So whatever the visible reasoning is, the underlying reason is the fact that Ed Johnson is an idiot. He blew his third chance in the league and this one was most likely his last. (Yup his 3rd if not for the trouble at Penn St. Ed would have likely never been a Colt as he would have been drafted. Count em. #1 @ Penn st., #2 With Dungy, #3 with Caldwell).

So after clearing all of this up I again would like to say, I told you so… again.

by shep31 on Oct 14, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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