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2009 NFL Trade Deadline: What will the Colts do?

If rumors are to be trusted, we've seen two pretty reliable sources say the Colts have actively worked to trade for Cleveland Browns kicker returner Josh Cribbs and Tampa Bay Buccaneers linebacker Barrett Ruud. I think it is pretty safe to say that the Colts will try to do something before the deadline today tomorrow at 4PM Eastern. The last three seasons, the Colts have made two significant trades just prior to the deadline (with one going through and the other getting voided because the Buffalo Bills tried to pawn an injured player on us). 

So, factoring all this in, here is a bit of analysis:

  • Trading for Cribbs would be an absolute coup. Cribbs had a TD on a return yesterday against the Steelers, and if you give this offense the kind of field position Cribbs gains on a consistent basis, watch out! Cribbs would immediately energize a rather stagnant return game, and provide another weapon in the arsenal for a 5-0 team.
  • Ruud is, arguably, the best Tampa-2 middle linebacker in football right now. The problem is, the Bucs don't play Tampa-2 anymore. Gary Brackett is a great Tampa-2 backer, especially in coverage (where he is arguably the best). But, whereas Brackett struggles in run support, Ruud seems to thrive. Ruud also brings size to any linebacking corps, at 6'2 245 pounds. He's essentially Philip Wheeler, except good. If Indy trades for him, they will likely move him to strongside backer, meaning Wheeler's days in Indy are numbered.
  • People keep yapping about Glenn Dorsey of the Chiefs. Yes, he'd likely play much better in a Tampa-2 4-3 defense. And likely, Dorsey is the under tackle. However, Eric Foster and Daniel Muir have played very well, and Fili Moala is now in the rotation. So, for me personally, I don't see a need for Dorsey.
  • Terrell Owens. Um, no. If the Colts wanted an old, overpaid wide receiver, they'd have kept Marvin Harrison.
  • Another Buffalo Bills player to think about is Roscoe Parrish. Parrish is a better wide receiver than Cribbs and, in some ways, just as dynamic a returner.
  • Left or right tackles. It is very, very rare that a offensive lineman is traded before the deadline. So, I don't expect this.

Of course, it is entirely possible that the Colts will simply stand pat. They are 5-0 after all. However, we've seen to much activity from them to suggest they will simply "take it easy" today. So, for someone like me, I expect a trade. I mean, what ease do I have to look forward to today, a Monday after a bye week?

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I'm extremely curious...

In my opinion, Cribbs would be the biggest upgrade. He’s just a complete special team stud (kickoff returns, punt returns, ST coverage) and makes an immediate impact. Too bad they don’t want to trade him. Ruud would be an excellent addition as well. I like our DT depth and don’t see a need for Dorsey neither.

by Gio on Oct 19, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Trade possibilities...

As much as I would LOVE to see Cribbs in Colts Blue, I just don’t see it happening. I think the price will be too high. Mangini will want the moon for him now that he is the only player on their team taking snaps at QB and gaining yards. The Colts get too much value out of their early round picks to give that much up for a Returner. The other problem I see is that the blockers for the Colts on returns are still looking horrible. Cribbs may be great, but if there’s no lane, we’ll still see starting position around the 25. Blocking has to improve before KR will be any better.

If we can get Ruud for a 3rd and a backup, I’d do it in a heartbeat. Dude is a great run stuffer and is wasting in TBs new D.

Dorsey is overratted and lacks work ethic. No way Polian goes for that.

by emiller17 on Oct 19, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

good point

Also – Cribbs is in the final year of his contract. So essentially if they traded for him we would have only have him for one year.

by Colts Syndrome on Oct 19, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cribbs...

Is signed through 2012….He signed a 6 year contract in 2006 for about $1 million per year. That was before Devin Hester got his huge contract. Of course Cribbs immediately wanted to re-do his contract…

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by John Bena on Oct 19, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: return blockers

couldn’t agree with you more – I think both Simpson and TJ have great capabilities if they could get sprung free once or twice

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Oct 19, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ruud

Ruud is a FA after ‘09, right? So, I’d be okay with acquiring him if the price is a third or fourth rounder, but not a second.

Paying that high a price would mean it would probably be important to resign him, and the Colts already have to work out something with Brackett. That is, unless they’d resign Ruud and let Gary walk. Personally I would hate that, because I believe Brackett is the heart of the Colts’ defense.

A defense, we know, that’s pretty good, without any infusion of new talent. Ruud’s a fine player, to be sure, but I’m willing to roll the dice without him unless he’s available for the proverbial song.

Cribbs would be exciting, for sure, but apparently realizing he’s locked into a below-market contract for the next few years, the Browns want to keep him. Parrish would be an intriguing pick-up (Goodbye Mr. Kendra Baskett!).

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.

by Coltsfan58 on Oct 19, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

If we get Ruud

don’t expect Brackett back. I’d rather have both Bullit and Bethea, plus Ruud. That would mean bye-bye to Brackett, and maybe Hagler or someone else.

5-0 COLTS? Great!
Jaguars and Texans being 3 games behind? Awesome!
0-6 Titans? Priceless..

by fpacheco on Oct 19, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brackett is not coming back.

I sort of think the Colts have already decided not to resign Brackett. Just speculation of course, but they are making a concerted effort to revamp the LB corps and Brackett just doesn’t fit the mold. If they are looking to use an early pick on a LB anyway, i’m not sure you’re going to do better than Ruud with a second round pick. I’d go for it if he’s available.

by invisibulman on Oct 19, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't see Cleveland trading Cribbs,

But I hope I’m wrong. Our returners are stinking up the place.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Oct 19, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

May I suggest a modification?

Simpson stinks up the place. TJ isn’t bad.

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.

by Coltsfan58 on Oct 19, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

TJ is actually pretty good, but he hasn’t played much this year. But I think we all agree that adding Cribbs or Parrish is a step up from TJ.

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by Brad Wells on Oct 19, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't trust him with the ball any more.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Oct 19, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially if Jennings is nearby

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.

by Coltsfan58 on Oct 19, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bumblers. LOL

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Oct 19, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cribbs

in my opinion, we don’t need him. He wants a high salary and he’s not a good receiver. With our offense, we don’t NEED such a good returner that bad. I think when Gonzo comes back, Garcon could see time at KR and PR, he’s almost 6’1 and has a good combination of speed and bruising running ability. On the other hand, I’m starting to like the Ruud trade more and more, if we get him for a 2nd rounder or less (or a 2nd and 7th or something like that), but Polian’s got to be 100% we’ll be able to re-sign him. What’s going on in Tampa? Are they gonna sell the whole team? They have like 123 of the 127 millions of Salary Cap free!

5-0 COLTS? Great!
Jaguars and Texans being 3 games behind? Awesome!
0-6 Titans? Priceless..

by fpacheco on Oct 19, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

We definitely could use him

The Colts severely lack a solid return man. I mean, it’s not healthy that we should hope for touchbacks. Giving us a dynamic breakaway guy returning kicks will make us 10x more dangerous than we already are. We would be going from guys barely staying on the roster returning kicks to a pro bowler who could break one for a TD. If he can be got, I’d be stoked if we grab him.

Yet, I see what you are saying in terms of “financial” need. We certainly do not “need” him if he will ask some ridiculous $$$. We are a great team and he would just make us greater. But its more that HE needs US than vice versa.

by npb1985 on Oct 19, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cribbs and Ruud

would be unbelievable upgrades. Ruud is an excellent linebacker who is terrific at doing the little things. He’s not really a gamebreaker type of linebacker but who cares? He rarely seems to make any mistakes and does his job well. Not to mention, he is in football purgatory in Tampa. Cribb would be incredible if we could get him (and by all accounts he wants out of that stinkhole that is Cleveland BAD), but Mangina seems intent on keeping him. He is arguable the best return man in football, which is a position that for us, is well….awful. Imagine if Peyton was given field position close to or past midfield for once. Is that even fair?

Also regarding Ruud, I bet some on here are kind of going “meh” at the thought of him playing LB for us since he is not exactly a household name. Just know this. He is the best defensive player on one of the worst NFL teams the past two years. It is rather hard to keep up intensity and competitive drive when you’re team is so bad, but he still puts out as much effort as he can, even in knowing his team will likely lose. Some players just need to experience a taste of winning, and it sends their game to another level. Imagine what Ruud could do for us with the knowledge that his team is going to win. He plays hard enough in knowing his current one will likely lose.

by npb1985 on Oct 19, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Cribbs

I would absolutely go nuts if we got Cribbs. Just don’t see it happening though.

by All4Indiana on Oct 19, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the deadline is Tuesday at 4:00.

by cleanface on Oct 19, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't put it past Polian

To pull something out of his ass that leaves us all with out jaws on the ground.

by Addai Another Aday on Oct 19, 2009 12:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

3rd Rounder

By all means just trade the third rounder, tho Powers seems to be an exception to the curse. I’d be OK with Ruud, and also Derrick Johnson would be great in his defense. There isn’t a need for Dorsey, but I do wonder how the front office viewed him when evaluating for last year’s draft. If that trade happens I guess it would mean highly.

And since they are playing the Rams this week they could examine Alex Barron pretty closely on film and see if he would be a fit.

by GonzoBlue on Oct 19, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Looking at the possibilities...

Cribbs: No way. Not interested. You can get a KR specialist in the 5th round. Why give up a 3rd pick for one.

Ruud: This would be the one I am most excited about. There might actually be a chance here if they have already decided not to resign Brackett. I would give up a 2nd rounder for Ruud no problem.

Dorsey: Interesting proposition. He does fit the Tampa-2 scheme, but he’s not worth more than a 4th or 5th round pick. I don’t think the Chiefs will accept that he has depreciated in value that much in such a short time.

Owens: Who even brought this up? FAIL.

Parrish: I actually see this as more likely than Cribbs. Fills the same whole, but at a cheaper price. Plus, we know the Bills are actively shopping him.

by invisibulman on Oct 19, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

If you could get a talent like Cribbs in the 5th round every team would have someone like him. Cribbs is top two in the league at what he does. And, considering Hester is now more of a receiver, you could put him in that top spot. The thought of our team with an above average (which is what it would be at the VERY least with Cribbs) would take the colts offense to a different level. It is beyond an exciting prospect…just thinking about it gives me goose bumps. But that is exactly why it wont happen. But its nice to dream

by JimiC on Oct 19, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ruud would be a solid move

as long as they don’t give up too much. But honestly, I like what this team is right now. They’re playing great, playing together, really thriving in the new scheme. I don’ t see much of a need ANYwhere at the moment.

by slash196 on Oct 19, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

My pipe dream

is getting Joe Thomas from Cleveland. I’d give a 3rd or maybe even a 2nd rounder.

by ctnyc on Oct 19, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

They would never give him up without a first round pick and a good player in return.

by Sanders_fan89 on Oct 19, 2009 2:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

this isn't baseball

no one gives up the franchise in a trade. Essentially that is what Cleveland would be doing.

Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.

by JustAJ on Oct 19, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

that’s why it’s a pipe dream.

by ctnyc on Oct 20, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

1st and 2nd round pick

for Ruud, Clifton Smith, and a either a tackle or guard! SHIP IT!

by SpazMo on Oct 19, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

oh and then

we trade ugoh, simpson, and wheeler to the raiders for their 2012 draft. GOD I SHOULD BE A GM!

by SpazMo on Oct 19, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

so serious question

if the Colts could get a starting caliber LT/RG/RT/DT, or someone like a Ruud (whom i think would be a pretty good upgrade at LB), would anyone be willing to part with some of our depth? When it comes to depth, im referring to basically 3 positions: CB (like Marlin Jackson, who we’ll probably lose at the end of the year, but whose value is probably kind of low because of his knee), a safety, or a WR (not named Wayne).

Im obviously no referring to an elite player, but assume they are below elite, but substantially above what we have on the roster at that position.

by SpazMo on Oct 19, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Ya know who we need to trade for?

FAVRE!

No… on second thought I can’t in good conscience make that joke.

Wow, I thought I would never reach bottom, and yet here we are!

Go Colts!

by Marked Hoosier on Oct 19, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Of all people...

you are the least qualified to judge me.

/DON’T THROW STONES WHEN YOU LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES!!!
//heh

Go Colts!

by Marked Hoosier on Oct 19, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Browns fan here...

I also like the Colts have since i started watching football so, even back when they were bad which as you guys know was quite often. I just wanted to see what you guys were saying about the Cribbs rumor. To those that think he wants out of Cleveland so bad are way off. He has done nothing or said anything to contradict that. His agent even said that they just want an extension on his current deal that will lock him up as a Brown for the rest of his career. I doubt they trade him unless they get their socks blown off by an offer but, who knows. As for Joe Thomas that name shouldn’t even be brought up. I know the person said pipe dream but, that falls under the category of better chance of seeing god. He is the one person that i know for sure that will not get traded and there isn’t even any talk of that happening.
Cribbs would help the Colts out tremendously. Imagine Peyton gettting the ball around midfield just about everytime he got the ball. That’s pretty much what it’s like with Cribbs. That’s the one thing about the Browns that actually is good is special teams and it’s one of the best if not the best in the league. That’s a big part of the reason why the Browns blew up in 07 was special teams.
Well, just wanted to chime in on Cribbs. Don’t want him to leave but, if he does get traded i would enjoy seeing him on the Colts at least he would be helping the only team i like besides the Browns. Ok good luck guys! Go Browns and Go Colts!

by cavs10 on Oct 19, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Wheeler needs to stay

Take a moment and review the videos of Wheeler at Tech. Truly amazing. Last year as a rookie he stepped into the role when his teammates were not completely healthy and showed he was the right choice. He has it in him-he plays with his heart and soul and represents himself on and off the field as an amazing athlete and young man. This year his defensive teammates have been healthy-God forbid something happen to any of them-but should something happen he will step up/show up and be the man for all the REASONS. Stay tuned and keep watching him-give him a minute to represent he is still growing.

by Here in the ATL on Oct 19, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

For What It's Worth

From Phil B’s chat:

“Yes, someone called me about it this afternoon. I am most amused. And it’s a great lesson as to why people who comb the Internet and consider themselves knowledgable aren’t necessarily so. I have no clue about Ruud. I even typed his name incorrectly when I went to check it out online. But maybe it says something that somebody somewhere things my name could validate a rumor. Whatever.”

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by gizzardfanny on Oct 20, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

An additional thought on trading for a return specialist

As for looking to improve with a trade for a return guy why not look at signing Allen Rossum who the 49ers cut to make room for Crabtree. Maybe I missed that someone has already picked him up or he decided to retire but if not they could get a high quality return guy without trading away anything. The guy ranks 2nd all time in return yards and wouldn’t classify him as a young stud but he is only 33 and could provide some short term help. I remember reading he was inactive for a couple of games before they cut him so maybe there is an injury issue which has kept anybody from signing him.

by Jeremy V on Oct 20, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Parrish would be a major mistake. He singlehandedly cost the Bills the game against Cleveland, and the game against New England.

No Parrish, The patriots are 3-3, the Bills are 4-2 with a division loss to only the Dolphins.

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by Farorefox on Oct 20, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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