The Return of Vince Young: Ready your barf bags
There's a pretty big blog out there called The Big Lead, and its head writer is a good guy by the name of Jason McIntyre. Jason really is the model for independent bloggers, building his site up from nothing and into a huge traffic hog. Jason has also managed to do this while not becoming an obnoxious douche, like, say, Mike Florio.
However, despite Jason really showing all of us how to do it right when it comes to sports blogging, the guy does not know jack-friggin-squat about NFL football.
Just look at last year, where Jason boldly predicted the Colts would not make the playoffs. After Indy's 3-4 start, Jason was feeling pretty good about himself. After Indy reeled off 9 in a row and clinched a playoff berth (while the New England Patriots sat at home and wondered "What happened?"), Jason did what any self-important blogger does: Blame someone else (namely, former-Texans QB Sage Rosenfels).
Did I mention Jason is a Jets fan? I think that fact alone explains his attitude and knowledge about football.
Anyway, the reason I'm raggin' on Jason by bringing up his (lack of) football knowledge is that once again he is getting all self-important when talking about the NFL. And, like with his "bold" predictions last year, Jason is wrong.
This time, it involves the Titans and Vince Young. After the news broke about Vince Young returning to the starting QB role, Jason seemed to do a little happy dance in his office, located somewhere in the Tri-State New York area. The reason for Jason's euphoria is he stated back in August that Vince would indeed win his job back.
With the Titans starting the 2009 season 0-6 and their chances of making the playoffs pretty much nil, moron owner Bud Adams made some strong suggestions that veteran QB Kerry Collins be benched in favor of Vince Young. You all remember that, back in Week One of last year, Vince Young quit on his team during a game. It was very public display of adult pouting that distanced Vince from his Titans teammates. But, rather than panic, Kerry Collins entered the game and helped the Titans win that game and 12 more in 2008.
Now, with Kerry Collins benched and Vince Young is back as the starter, Jason somehow thinks the time is now for Vince to prove he can play in this league. Thing is, most of us AFC South fans already know Vince cannot play in this league. Jeff Fisher knows Vince can't play in this league. That's why he resisted Adam's "order" to start Vince. The woeful body of work Vince has compiled over the last three years more than tells the story of this over-rated, pampered brat who never should have been drafted by the Titans in the first place.
And if anyone out there still thinks that Vince can somehow salvage his career by playing well over these next few games, those people are suckers.
Here's Jason's take on the QB change:
Enigmatic Texas legend Vince Young will start at QB Sunday against Jacksonville. Did Jeff Fisher cave to pressure from his owner? Fisher will talk about the decision at 3 pm. Either way, we're thrilled to have been right about this back in August. Is anyone really surprised ancient Kerry Collins crumbled? He was serviceable last year and the Titans' defense (plus Chris Johnson) carried Tennessee to the playoffs. Anyone could see the significant dropoff coming. Young has to be the starter for at least the next three games. The rest of this lost season would probably be best. If he's awful, and doesn't appear to have a future with the team, obviously think QB in the draft.
And it's here where I point out that Jason really needs to go back and re-watch the Titans from years 2006-2008. We already know Vince Young stinks. We don't need three games to prove what three years have already shown. Vince Young is lazy, apathetic, entitled, and pampered. When things don't go the way he likes them to, he storms off the field, hides from the media, and seemingly threatens suicide.
A smart coach like Jeff Fisher knows this, which is why he resisted starting Vince again. But when the meddling hand of Bud Adams entered the equation, effectively chopping off Fisher's nuts, the writing was on the wall that Vince would return. Remember, Jeff Fisher did not want to draft Vince Young in 2006, but Bud Adams did. However, last year's success was a direct result of Vince Young getting benched and Kerry Collins assuming the job fulltime. So, in a not-so-subtle way, Fisher showed Bud Adams up for the ignorant fool he is.
Sorry, but to toot our own horn here a little bit, we have been saying Collins was better for some time now, and if you actually, you know, WATCH Titans games you know that blaming Kerry Collins for their 0-6 start is not an accurate assessment.
Vince Young's career in Tennessee is over. Everyone knows it. Everyone also knows that Vince Young's football career is likely over. He is simply not a motivated guy looking to improve himself as a player. We're in year four and Vince still can't read a defense, and a QB who can't read a defense is like a running back with no feet.
I feel a bit sorry for Kerry Collins and Jeff Fisher. Despite Jason's silly assessment (that Collins is a "fossil," and thus the reason the Titans are 0-6), Tennessee's wretched pass defense is the main reason they are sans a win. They are ranked dead last in the league, having surrendered 1,864 yards and 19 TDs. QBs are also completing 73% of their passes on them. I don't care if Joe Montana is your QB; in the modern NFL, if you are unable to stop the pass, you will lose a lot of football games.
I know that kind of analysis isn't as "sexy" as saying "BENCH THE QUARTERBACK!" but it's the truth.
Also, I am aware that Tony Dungy said Vince should play a few weeks ago on NBC. Again, Dungy is not at practice every day the way Jeff Fisher is. If Vince were indeed a better player at QB over Collins, Fisher would have started him. However, it was not the QB that has fumbled easy receptions (like Alge Crumpler against the Colts) or started fights after plays had ended (like Jason Jones against the Texans in Week Two) or surrendered 19 passing TDs in six games. The Titans just aren't a good football team, and changing the QB won't alter that very real, very stark fact.
The simple truth is nothing Vince Young does over these next three games should change anyone's assessment of him. If it does, then I have some junk bonds I'd like to sell them real cheap, if they are interested.
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Madden curse x10
VY was the cover of Madden 08. It was all downhill from there.
I hope he starts for the Titans for the next 10 years.
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by MarshallPlan on Oct 30, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uhh....
I think you mean Bud Adams not Bob McNair unless the Texans owner is calling the shots for the Titans these days
by AvonColtsFan on Oct 30, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I did
Corrected it. The article tagged the owners wrong.
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by BigBlueShoe on Oct 30, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did the article also put the apostrophe in the wrong place?
That’s why he resisted Adam’s “order” to start Vince.
Smushiak will take us to the playoffs in 2009.
by texanphil on Oct 30, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually hope he does ok...
not great… but well enough to get these guys some wins (most notably so we can distance ourselves from the Jags and Titans a bit in the South). But overall, I’m a huge proponent of parity in the league – it’s what makes this sport so interesting and exciting to me. I can’t stand that the Patriots beat the Titans 59-0, and not just because I never want to see the Patriots win… but because that kind of disparity should never happen in the NFL. I can’t stand that the Lions went winless last year, and that the Rams and Bucs seem headed that way this year. No, I wouldn’t have wanted us to lose to the Rams, but you bet I’ll be rooting for the Rams in every subsequent game they play this year.
Anyway, I for one hope that Vince has screwed his noggin back on straight and can pull the team out of the duldrums (sp?).
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on Oct 30, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Parity isn't what most people are led to believe.
NFL parity only means that all teams have the same chance to build and field a team.
Things like revenue sharing, the draft and salary caps create parity. As long as all teams have an equal chance at free-agents and player spending the NFL will be the best in pro sports.
But parity doesn’t prevent idiots from ruining franchises. If you’re Al Davis drafting second round talent with top 3 draft picks then you’re going to be in trouble no matter what. Bad GMs and owners will field bad teams no matter how level the playing field.
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by MarshallPlan on Oct 30, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, but lay off of Al Davis
Yes, the Raiders suck because of him, but for nearly 3 decades, Al had the Raiders as true contenders. His old age and stubborness has really harmed Oakland. A better example would be Dan Snyder: he’s half the age of Davis, but is just as incompetent to run a NFL organization.
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by KMR24 on Oct 30, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget Dan Snyder
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by peytonsthebest on Oct 30, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a million bad execs
Robert Irsay was hot garbage too.
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by MarshallPlan on Oct 30, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great point
I hadn’t considered this – everyone has a level playing field in terms of the tools and information they have access to to build their franchise, but parity stops at the capability of those owners/managers/coaches to actually execute.
Still… I’d like to see closer games, and more of them, to keep the sport exciting. Ok I might except my beloved Colts from the “closer” part and allow them multi-TD spreads :-)
How can you not love a team that does this?
by LovinBlue on Oct 30, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think we will have a few more close games this week not as many blow outs it doesn’t look like
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by ANGELSFAITH on Oct 30, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It never fails to amaze me
how some owners and sportswriters cannot see the obvious. The fact is that VY is not motivated and has had significant psychological problems for years now. I would think that’s obvious to the most casual observer, but apparently it isn’t. I suppose I should just relax and enjoy the type of owner whose ridicuous meddling heaves their team into a downward spiral. They love to throw good money after bad, instead of just cutting their losses and moving on, and admitting they made a horrible draft choice. All the better for the Colts. I mean, look at JaMarcus Russell. Now that buffoon even rivals Vince Young. The Bucs are another example of atrocious ownership. Collecting bad quarterbacks and cutting good talent has never been a formula for success. Josh Freeman,…….are they serious?? Anyway, regardless, I have to admit, the Titans saga is somewhat entertaining in a sick sort of way. I’m so glad they’re in our division! I bet Fisher is beside himself trying to reason with such an idiot owner.
by Ayrshire on Oct 30, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Playing VY now is the right move
but not because Young is better. They have to prove that he sucks and isn’t their QB of the future this year so they can cut the cord on him and draft a new guy.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 30, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agree i dont think this is a matter of VY being better
it is they got to try something because theya re 0-6 and they are getting pressure from upstairs. if fisher could he probalby wouldn’t play VY i wont be suprized if after a few more losses they are calling for the 3rd string QB to see what he can do as he is probably better than VY.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by ANGELSFAITH on Oct 30, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone wants a good laugh,
go to Music City Miracles and listen to the post about how the players are reacting to the change at QB. They have several Youtube videos posted and the one of Chris Johnson is hilarious. One reporter asked Chris what Vince said to the guys when he first took the huddle as the new starter, and Chris responded….‘nothing, he just called the play’. I would think a motivated QB would say ‘alright guys, I’m really happy to be back!‘, or ’we’re going to kick some serious ass, everyone with me????!’ or something to show he’s exciting about the opportunity. Apparently not, as, according to CJ, he just called the play. Ya gotta love it!
by Ayrshire on Oct 30, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I went over to MCM and they had a quote from Dungy about Tebow
Dungy said that if he were running a team with a Top 10 pick, he’d take Tebow. Patrick then asked Dungy who he’d pick for his team if he could have any of the top college quarterbacks, including Washington’s Jake Locker, Notre Dame’s Jimmy Clausen, Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford and Texas’s Colt McCoy. Dungy didn’t hesitate and said, “I’m taking Tebow.”
Either Dungy has lost his mind or he sees something in Tebow that makes him a top 10 pick. You be the judge of that…
Anyway, I read some of the comments on MCM, and one guy mentioned Tebow’s low release and ball protection and finished by saying, " The Titans surely won’t buy into the hype…" Then another blogger said, “We bought into VY hype.” – Classic.
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by KMR24 on Oct 30, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dungy wasn't our talent evaluator.
That was Bill Polian. That quote makes me very glad that Dungy wasn’t our GM.
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by Cassieper on Oct 30, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too!
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by peytonsthebest on Oct 30, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
^^^Agreed^^^
Unless he sees the wildcat as the future of the NFL….
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by Bobman on Oct 30, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Dungy was part of the drafting process
Polian described Dungy as the gambler between the two of them, which might explain the Tebow-love.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 30, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense,
but the final decision always rested with Polian (Irsay rocks for that, BTW).
Wonder how many times the gambler in Dungy was able to convince Polian. My guess is not many.
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by Cassieper on Oct 30, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait... what????

Mr. “Set the corners 15 yards back to prevent the big play, no we’re not gonna blitz” Dungy? The Colts former coach? That guy??
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by E.M.H. on Oct 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well you can't be conservative in every portion of your life apparently
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 30, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
found the link
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2009-02-21/qa-colts-gm-bill-polian
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by shake n bake on Oct 30, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
draft for what team though is the question
because he is a good player but he isn’t going to be a QB that throws a ton and is a top of the line passing QB i would think he would be more like a vick, moble and physical that is part of the reason some think the would make a better WR or TE
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by ANGELSFAITH on Oct 30, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow -
that is interesting. Good thing Dungy wasn’t there when there was a choice between Petyon and Leaf – might have ended up with Leaf. lol
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by peytonsthebest on Oct 30, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you football gods!!!!
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by KMR24 on Oct 30, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy is a Jets fan, BBS
what can you expect? And probably a Long Islander, which makes things worse.
But VY HAS earned his job back… much the same way Andrew Johnson won the presidency in 1865.
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by Bobman on Oct 30, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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you guys want some more comedy? Of course you do. Then just click this link.
Hint: It’s about MJD and the Sparkly Kitties.
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by Cassieper on Oct 30, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha that is funny
so after he calls out the offense he thinks they are the best team makes sense doesn’t it?? lol
///wow he is a good player makeing a fool of himself once again sad
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by ANGELSFAITH on Oct 30, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is GO TIME for the VY!

Yea, he tattooed his own name on his back. He is that awesome.
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by Marked Hoosier on Oct 30, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YAY!
Welcome back, VY. I’ve been hoping for this since last season!!
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by peytonsthebest on Oct 30, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
My best friend is a Jags fan(been following them since he was 4, don’t ask me why). He was incredibly excited about the latest VY developments today, even going so far as to say that the Jags would make the playoffs(which is possible, considering their schedule). Then I challenged him to a game of Madden after our study group on Monday, in which I would be the Titans with VY as QB. I’ve beaten him 10 straight times as the Steelers, so it should be interesting.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 30, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha nice
most likly we will not send three, right now texans are def. better than the jags
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by ANGELSFAITH on Oct 30, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
blogger here
Yeah, there’s a blogger here with a blog called The Return of Vince Young: Ready your barf bags , the blogger’s name should be BigBlueShmoe, he’s the moron. Kerry may have helped win that game, buts it’s obvious the defense carried the team the rest of the way.
by titansfan68 on Oct 30, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
actually it isn't so obvious and although kerry isnt a great QB he is
better and more successfull than VY. VY will not be the starting QB on any team that had a real QB. if he went to the lions for that matter he wouldn’t be a starter he would be the 2nd or 3rd string and that is just plain sad. good luck to him but you saying that BBS is a moron because he thinks VY is no good is just stupid especially if you think he is the starter of the future for you lol
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by ANGELSFAITH on Oct 30, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quarterback Leadership
From your list of Vince Young putdowns, one might think Vince has never started, much less won, an NFL start. Vince did not show himself to be a leader in the first game last season (and probably in training camp, as well). Fisher yanked the reins and handed them to Collins, who had a great season. Right now, Collins is not making a particularly good showing as a leader. No enthusiasm or energy. I’m hoping Vince has cleared some mental hurdles and is ready to reassume duties as a winning NFL quarterback. He has done it before and may be able to do it again.
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by Visions on Oct 30, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not only that he has
mental problems, he’s not a good player either.
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by Cassieper on Oct 31, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Mental issues aside, it only takes a few minutes of watching him throw the ball to know he’s awful. He misses receivers by three yards on SCREENS. He makes bad decisions. He’s not the fastest or most athletic guy on the field anymore, and therefore he’s useless.
(And the next Texas QB that gets overhyped and highly drafted this year is going to suffer the same fate, although it’ll be much less embarrassing for him because he seems otherwise normal.)
by willyduer on Oct 31, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually agree with the decision to play him
Because before you give up entirely on a huge draft pick, you really need to know for sure. The Titans don’t really lose anything by playing him – they’re awful anyway – but they might just gain some knowledge about what Young (doesn’t) have to offer. More information > less information, even when you think you know everything.
by eltharion_doa on Oct 31, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well...
sorry to state the obvious, but VY’s success has a lot to do with the Titans’ offensive scheme… And he is looking like a much better QB than say, David Garrard, at the moment.
by dbezan on Nov 1, 2009 6:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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