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So I work at a coffee shop by day and I'm spending most my nights in bars playing with my bands. And let me tell you, I am so incredibly sick and tired of being SICK AND TIRED of spending half of my life arguing Peyton over Tom to a buncha dude-guys down at hahvahd yahd.

So let me hear it: why do YOU think Peyton's the #1 QB of our generation?

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Stampede Blue's writers or editors.

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Because.......

Nobody tells him to exchange his skirt for slacks.

by tim55 on Oct 8, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And if they did......

Indy Lori will kick they ass.

by tim55 on Oct 8, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You got that right.

Didn’t I once fight you here about Peyton?

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Oct 9, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

You got mad at me cause that film of Peyton before the game looking tough cracked me up.

by tim55 on Oct 9, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I took offense,

and called you out. Can’t remember who had the last word. Good Times.
PS: I still think he’s a badass.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Oct 9, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because every statistic outside of Super Bowls won by his TEAM favors him?

You really need our help with this?

The best think you can do, short of exterminating them all by poisoning their coffee, is to keep your mouth shut and don’t engage them.

by willyduer on Oct 8, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd personally go with the coffee poison though.

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by Cassieper on Oct 8, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“the best ‘think’ you can do?” don’t you get sassy with me willy, i’m looking for specific examples in statistics. don’t give me a blanket statement and get all fussy, especially if you’re spell check isn’t working.

"gonzo's gonna getcha"

by OneArmedBoxer on Oct 11, 2009 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

use this..

“If you compare Manning to Brady like Marino to Montana. then the argument is that Marino has all the numbers but no rings, and Montana has all the rings but half the stats… WELL let’s say Marino had a ring, AND the numbers….that’s Peyton”

by harbaughmyhero on Oct 12, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why bother arguing at all with the locals?

It’s worse than trying to get someone to change their religion or political viewpoint. No one would ever be able to convince you otherwise, so why bother trying to convince them – especially in their own city? Seems like one of those pointless, winless, waste-of-breath arguments. (doesn’t mean I don’t engage from time-to-time, but I always regret it afterwards.)

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 8, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree with you.

It’s pointless.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Oct 9, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nuh uh u r

Hit em with your groin!

by KingRichard on Oct 9, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the same as the Marino-Montana argument from the 80s...

…or actually closer to the Aikman-Young argument in the early 90s…

Bottom line is, they’re BOTH great QBs. If you ask me though, Tommy had his success early, has peaked, and is already on the downswing. Peyton looks like he’s still getting better 11 years later. PM is DEFINITELY a better QB. TB just had more success sooner.

by DFWColtFan on Oct 8, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No Way!

Brady is better because… pointless argument alert

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 9, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha!

+18 ;-)

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Oct 9, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the patriots went 11-5 without Tommy Terrific, the colts wouldnt win half that with Sorgi

Call me "Sir" goddamnit!

by danorocks17 on Oct 9, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tom Brady is the definition of a game manager. He will do enough to not lose games, and can win games if you let him. However, if his offense and defense aren’t clicking, he’s probably not winning.

Peyton Manning can win games by himself. He can put a bad defense and a struggling offense on his back, take over a game and win singlehandedly.

Brady may have more rings, but he also has more SB losses than Peyton. Manning is, hands down, a better statistical QB.

So yeah. If you only value rings, then Brady is your guy. Worth noting that the Pats haven’t won a title since the 2004 season, so they’re getting to the end of their 5 year “We won a Super Bowl so we can’t really bitch about things” period.

Bob Sanders eats a forest on Friday so he can lay the wood on Sunday.
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by MonkeyBusiness on Oct 9, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Frustration

The Brady supporters win a point just by keeping this debatable in anybody’s mind. There’s no argument. Manning is the best, and Brady is a distance back with several other QBs who are pretty good. Just keeping the discussion open of Manning vs. Brady is a major boost beyond reality to Brady. I weary of it.

The Patriots have had the best team over the last decade, albeit not without scandal. However, I don’t think that team success makes any one of their players the best in the game at his position. Except maybe Vinatieri =p

by coltsfanawalt on Oct 9, 2009 3:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bingo

> Manning is here

> Brady, Brees, Rivers, Palmer. They’re all about right here.

by harbaughmyhero on Oct 12, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peyton has re-defined the position.

His unique style of quarterbacking is second to none. Brady isn’t as interesting to watch. Peyton at the line of scrimmage is art.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Oct 9, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Watch this, I'm gonna piss Lori off.

Except one of these days, he’s gonna flap his arms so hard that he’ll take off and hit his head on the blimp, putting himself out with a concussion.

by tim55 on Oct 9, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then he'll wake up and throw 2 or 3 more TD passes, bat down a tipped ball,

recover a team mates fumble, catch the defense with 12 men on the field, cause an encroachment penalty, and film a commercial. All in under 60 minutes.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Oct 9, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So,

he films the commercial during halftime? Or is this when he donates blood? Or does he donate blood while filming the commercial?

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by Cassieper on Oct 9, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He films his commercial WHILE he's playing, because he's really into multi-tasking,

during half-time he’s busy writing another pop song for Brittany and going over film.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Oct 9, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the recent controversy

 Pats fan are saying Peyton is a whiney baby just like Brady about being touched. Remind them Peyton took a broken jaw and didn’t miss any playing time.

 When they bring up Peyton’s playoff performances (9-9) remind them that he holds the NFL record for 400 yd passing games in the playoffs, with 2. Neither game was in the Super Bowl year.
 In one of those he also set the NFL record for highest passer rating in a playoff game. In the other last year, against SD, the Colts still lost, which just shows that football is a team game with coaching, the organization, and the other players having as much to do with playoff sucess as the QB.
Also, Peyton has gotten his teams TO the playoffs 9 times out of 11 seasons, and one of those misses was his rookie year. I’m not sure if that’s an NFL record or not, but it must be close.

 When Peyton broke Marino’s passing TDs season record with 49, he only played one series, and threw two passes, in the 16th game at Denver. In the 15th game against San Diego, he only needed 2 TDs to break what was then the record (48), and did. So he broke the record in 15 games.

Brady, on the other hand, only had 48 TDs after the 15th game, and needed to play a full game (32 of 42, 356yds., 2TDs) in the 16th game to get his last 2 TDs and break Peyton’s record. So we will never know how many TDs Peyton COULD have gotten, because he broke the record as it stood at the time.

 Recently Brady set a record for fewest interceptions for a QB winning 200 games, and the Pats fans are making a big deal out of it.
But if you throw out Peyton’s rookie season, Peyton’s TD/INT ratio is better for their careers. Brady wasn’t good enough to play his rookie season.
It’s also better than Brady’s from 2002 on, 2002 being Brady’s first full season.

 Peyton has thrown for at least 3700 yards every season (11), over 4000 yards 9 times (NFL record), and over 4,100 yards 7 times.
Brady has only three seasons over 3700 yards, only 2 over 4,000, and just one over 4,100.

 The football counterpart to a 300 hit, 30 HR season in baseball, which is 4,000 yards, 30 TDs in a season, has been accomplished by Peyton 4 times, Brady once.
In fact, Brady has only one season with more than 30 TD passes.

Peyton has passed for 25 or more TD passes in a season every year (11), an NFL record, but actually has never had a season under 26 TDs.

Peyton holds the NFL record for highest passer rating in a season, at 121.1Peyton has had only two seasons with a passer rating below 88.8, Brady has only had three seasons above 88.8. Peyton has 7 seasons with a rating of 94.5 or better, four seasons of 99.0 or better, and three of 100.0 or better.

Brady has only had one season above 92.6.

 Peyton has thrown a TD pass of at least 69 yards every season (11), and 73 yards or more in all but one (10) season. Brady has had a TD pass of 69 yards or more 4 seasons, and one of 73 or more just twice.
He had two healthy seasons where he had no TD pass over 50 yards.

Peyton has had 7 seasons with a completion % of 64% or better, Brady has had ONE.

Other Peyton NFL records in the next post.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I screwed up my links for the TDs per Season record

But here are the links I used for those, followed by the career info on Manning and Brady;
Manning 2004 Game Log;
http://www.nfl.com/players/peytonmanning/gamelogs?id=MAN515097&season=2004

Brady 2007 Game Log;
http://www.nfl.com/players/tombrady/gamelogs?id=BRA371156&season=2007

Manning;
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/12531

Brady;
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/187741

Here are more Manning NFL records, from Wikipedia;

Career (individual)
Manning holds a number of individual career records:

Highest passer rating, season: 121.1 (2004)168
Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 9 (1999–2004, 2006–2008)169
Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 6 (1999–2004)3
Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 11 (1998–2008; current)169
Most games with a perfect passer rating, career: 4 (includes 1 playoff game)88
Most consecutive games started to open a career by a quarterback (current): 180170
Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1–13, 2004)171
Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes: 5 (games 7–11, 2004)168
Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (season, 2004): 6 (tied with 1984 Marino)168
Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes, career: 7 (includes 1 playoff game)172
One of only six QB’s with at least 6 touchdown passes in two games (tied with Sammy Baugh, Y.A. Tittle, Daryle Lamonica, Charley Johnson and George Blanda)173
Highest career TDs/game average for any QB with at least 150 TDs: 1.89 TDs/game41
Highest career completions/game average (min. 100 games played): 21.8174
Most consecutive games with a passer rating over 100: 9 (games 5–13 of 2004 season; record tied by Carson Palmer, 2004–05 and Tom Brady, 2006–07)175
Highest completion percentage by a QB in one month in NFL history (min. 75 attempts): 81.8% (December 2008) 41
Most career games with a completion percentage of 70% or higher (min. 10 attempts): 54176
Most seasons with 12+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 7 (1999, 2003–2008)
Only QB with at least 12 wins as a starter in 6 consecutive seasons (2003–2008)177
Only QB with seven straight seasons of 10+ wins as a starter (2002-2008)41
First QB to defeat the other 31 teams in the regular season (Tom Brady did this later the same day, and Brett Favre did it the following week)178

Playoff records

Most 300+ yard passing games: 6 (tied with Joe Montana)179
Most 400+ yard passing games: 2 (tied with Dan Marino)180
Most yards passing, 1st half of game: 360 vs. Denver Broncos, 1/9/05181
Led the biggest comeback in conference championship game history (18 pts), 1/21/07 vs. New England182
One of only four QB’s to post a perfect 158.3 rating in a game (Don Meredith, Terry Bradshaw, Dave Krieg)183
One of only three QB’s to complete 30 or more passes in 2 playoff games (Warren Moon, Tom Brady)184
Most consecutive games with 20+ completions: 7 (tied w/Tom Brady)
Rookie records
Most passing attempts: 575185
Most completions: 326168
Most passing yards: 3,739168
Most touchdown passes: 26168
Most consecutive games with a touchdown pass (games 4–16): 13185

With Marvin HarrisonManning and Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison hold a number of QB-WR tandem records:
Most completions (career): 971186
Most passing/receiving yards (career): 13,090186
Most passing/receiving touchdowns (career): 11041186

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's the Wikipedia link;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning

and more records;

Pro Bowl records

Most passing attempts (career): 15099
Most passing attempts (game): 41 (2004)187
Most completions (career): 9299
Most completions (game): 22 (2004)187
Most passing yards (career): 1,27899
Most passing yards (game): 342 (2004)187
Most passing touchdowns (career): 1399

Colts franchise records

Most passing attempts (career): 6,09740
Most passing attempts (season): 591 (2002)40
Most passing attempts (rookie season): 575 (1998)40
Most 40+ passing attempt games (career): 4440
Most completions (career): 3,93640
Most completions (season): 392 (2002)40
Most completions (rookie season): 326 (1998)40
Most completions (game): 37 (11/03/02 vs. Tennessee; tied with Jeff George)40
Most completions (rookie game): 30 (11/01/98 vs. New England)40
Most consecutive completions: 23 (12/14/08-12/18/08 vs. Detroit/Jacksonville)41
Most games with 20+ completions (career): 12540
Most consecutive games with 20+ completions: 12 (games 3–14, 2003)40
Most games with 30+ completions (career): 15188
Highest completion percentage (career): 64.6%40
Highest completion percentage (season): 67.6% (2004)40
Highest completion percentage (rookie season): 56.7%40
Highest completion percentage (game): 87.5% (14/16 for 95 yards, 12/30/07 vs. Tennessee)41
Most passing yards (career): 46,964189
Most passing yards (season): 4,557 (2004)40
Most passing yards (rookie season): 3,73940
Most passing yards (game): 472 (10/31/04 vs. Kansas City)40
Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 5140
Most 300+ passing yard games (season): 6 (2004 and 2006)40
Most 300+ passing yard games (rookie season): 440
Most consecutive passing 300+ yard games: 4 (games 1-4 in 2009)40
Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards (1999–2004, 2006–2008): 9169
Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards (1999–2004): 63
Most touchdown passes (career): 3425
Most touchdown passes (season): 49 (2004)40
Most touchdown passes (rookie season): 2640
Most touchdown passes (game): 6 (09/28/03 vs. New Orleans and 11/25/04 vs. Detroit)40
Most touchdown passes (rookie game): 3 (4 times; tied with Johnny Unitas and Jeff George)40
Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (career): 18190
Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (season, 2004): 6168
Most games with at least 3 touchdown passes (career): 5340
Most games with at least 1 touchdown pass (season): 15 (5 times)40
Most games with at least 1 touchdown pass (rookie season): 15 (1998)40
Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes (games 7–11, 2004): 5 (2004)168
Most consecutive games with at least 3 touchdown passes: 8 (games 5–12, 2004)191
Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1–13, 2004)40
Most consecutive games with at least 1 touchdown pass (rookie season): 13 (games 4–16)40
Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes (1998–2007, current): 10169
Highest touchdown percentage (career): 5.66%40
Highest touchdown percentage (season): 9.86% (2004)40
Highest touchdown percentage (game): 24.00% (09/28/03 vs. New Orleans)40
Most interceptions thrown (game): 6 (11/11/07 vs. San Diego)40
Most interceptions thrown (season): 28 (1998)40
Highest passer rating (career): 95.240
Highest passer rating (season): 121.1 (2004)40
Most games with a perfect passer rating (career): 4 (includes 1 playoff game)88
Most consecutive games started to open a career by a quarterback (current): 180170
Most consecutive games started, franchise history: 180 (current)170
Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (career): 38 40
Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (season): 7 (1999)40

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere (new NFL record)

But Peyton now owns the career record for game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime with 37, passing Marino with 36.

I’ve been wanting to put all this stuff together for some time, and it’s not organized very well, but I figured I’d see how this season turns out first.

Anyone who wants to use this stuff, or expand on it, please do.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

That’s a lot of records to look through. Someone with more time on their hands needs to organize all of those into some better/more specific categories into an easy to read format. It would sure make a great FanPost.

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by Cassieper on Oct 9, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it's badly organized right now

But like I say, I have big hopes for this season, with the depth, D-Line, and the way Peyton’s playing, so I’m going to do it eventually.

But you know, all Peyton has to do is win one more Super Bowl and the whole Manning- Brady argument is over.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not your fault for the bad organization.

That’s Wikipedia’s doing.

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Man, I need a life...

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by Cassieper on Oct 9, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW, good job HoosierHorseman. I wish I could memorize this stuff.

But I can’t because my head is hurting from reading all the records broken by P. Is there a record for breaking all the records? Because he probably owns that as well!

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino

by Indy Lori on Oct 9, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You should copy it

on to a document so you can just refer to it.

BTW, I forgot some stuff (I’m gonna write a book, I swear);

Peyton is on pace to pass Marino, for 2nd place behind Favre, in the three major passing records, by the end of 2012. And BTW, I’m fairly sure Brady isn’t in the top 15, or even 20, of these, but I need to verify that.

Career TDs- Favre 469, Marino 420, Peyton 342.
Career completions- Favre 5,781, Marino 4,967, Peyton 3,936
Career Passing Yards’ Farve 61, 693, Marino 61,367, Peyton 46, 964.

Over his career, Peyton has averaged, at least 30 TDs, 350 completions, and 4,150 yards per season, so you can do the math.

And again, Peyton averages that EVERY year, whereas Brady has only had one season better than Peyton’s average year, one other slightly below it, and the rest of his seasons aren’t even close.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually,

He’s third to Elway and Favre. Farve has 42 and Elway has the record with 48. Manning has 38 game-winng drives including the postseason.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Oct 10, 2009 8:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, thanks, I'll buy that. I was worried about that stat.

Like I say, I couldn’t find it anywhere but did run across Marino’s record in my searches.
I made the bad assumption that Marino held the record, thanks.
The only other mistake I know of is (which I make later in the thread) that Peyton’s playoff record was 9-9, when it was 7-7.
My only excuse for that is I was tired, and it was late.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 11, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and another thing

Brady still leads Peyton in head to head games 7-4, which is the one really legitimate stat I will grant him.
However, since their last Super Bowl year in 2004, Peyton is 4-1 against Brady, including beating them in the AFC Championship game (which the last time I checked is a playoff game), and PM is 1-0 to Brady’s 0-1 in Super Bowl games.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Head to head games.

The wins there are team wins, imo. Peyton hasn’t beaten Brady lately, rather the Colts have been beating the Pats.

by coltsfanawalt on Oct 9, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh. I agree

but to me it is still a better argument than the Super Bowl argument.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charitable works

Shortly after beginning his NFL career, Manning started his own charity, the Peyback Foundation. The Peyback Foundation’s mission is to help disadvantaged kids, and focuses its efforts in Louisiana, Tennessee, and Indiana.155

 Manning, along with his brother Eli, volunteered their assistance in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. Among the tasks performed, the Mannings assisted in the delivery of 30,000 pounds of water, Gatorade, baby formula, diapers, and pillows to the people of New Orleans.

On September, 2007, St. Vincent Hospital in Indianapolis renamed its children’s hospital to “Peyton Manning Children’s Hospital at St. Vincent.” Manning and his wife made a donation of an undisclosed amount to St. Vincent’s and have had a relationship with the hospital since his arrival in Indianapolis.

NFL awards

NFL MVP (2003 (shared with Steve McNair), 2004, 2008)
Best NFL Player ESPY Award (2004, 2005)
9× Pro Bowl Selection (1999–2000, 2002–2008)
4× First-team All-Pro (2003, 2004, 2005, 2008)
3× Second-team All-Pro (1999, 2000, 2006)
Bert Bell Award (2003, 2004)
1998 NFL All-Rookie First Team
2004 AFC Offensive Player of the Year
2004 Fedex Express Player of the Year
2005 Best Record-Breaking Performance ESPY Award
2005 Walter Payton Man of the Year Award
2005 Byron "Whizzer" White Humanitarian Award
2005 Pro Bowl MVP
2007 Super Bowl MVP
2007 Best Championship Performance ESPY Award

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's some more, on 400 yard and 300 yard games

Peyton is second in 400 yard games, 7 regular season, 2 postseason.
He has the NFL record for highest passer rating in a 400 yard postseason game, and ranks in the top 10 in three categories for all 400 yard games ever played in the NFL (passer rating [twice], comp. %, and YPA).

Guess how many 400 yard games Brady has in his career?

Give up?

One.

410 yards, against Kansas City, Sept. 9th, 2002. (Not 2007)

The list didn’t go down past 2 400 yard games, but at least 41 QBs have had at least 2.
The greatest QB of our generation is somewhere down the list, below Billy Volek, Charley Johnson, and Kelly Holcomb.

In 300 yard games, Peyton is third on the list with 57, right behind Favre with 59 and the leader Marino with 67.

Guess how many 300 yard games Brady has thrown in post-season games?

Give up?

3.

1 each in ’01, ’03, and ’05.

He’s had 22 in the regular season for a total of 25, which doesn’t even get him in the top twenty all-time.

8 of those 22 reg. season 300 yd. games came in 2007, and 4 in the ’05 reg. season.
He had one regular season 300 yd. game in 2000, 2 in 2001, 2 in 2002, 2 in 2003, and 1 total (reg. and post-season) in 2004.

Peyton’s had four in a row already this season.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, yeah, I forgot

I said Peyton was second in 400 yard games with 9, but forgot to list the leader, Marino again, with 15.

I know Marino was worthless as a QB, according to New England PIdiots, no Super Bowl and all, but it’s funny how his name keeps popping up isn’t it?

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 9, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Peyton just passed Marino in the past couple weeks

for total career games with a Passer Rating of 100.0 or higher, for 3rd place;

1) Favre- 96
2) Tarkington-74
3) P. Manning- 69
4) Marino- 67

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 10, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Correction

Peyton actually has 71 100.00+ passer rating regular season games.
He’s still in 3rd place, but only three games behind Tarkington (2nd place)

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 10, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you go even further...

Manning has a passer rating over 100 in nearly 40% of his starts.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Oct 10, 2009 9:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

In fairness to Brady, he does well in this stat (games with 100.0+ passer rating)

He trails Peyton in regular season games 71 to 47,
but he leads Peyton in postseason 100.0+ games, 7 to 3.
So he doesn’t throw for many yards in the postseason, but he does generally play well.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 10, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True but...

Despite having more games with a rating over 100+, his passer rating in the post season is on three points higher than Manning’s, 88 to 85, so they say that Manning is inconsistent in the Postseason but you could make the same argument for Brady. His defense was responsible for at least 10 of his postseason wins compared to just 2 for Manning.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Oct 10, 2009 9:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be interested how you determine that the defense wins the game.

I’m not doubting you but I’d like to know the methodology.
And thanks alot for the input.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 11, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

brady's better because he has more rings?

what???? rings are for bragging rights only. superbowls are about teams, not individual merits.

let me ask you, mister “brady’s better, just look at the rings” person: you’re telling me BEN ROTHLESBURGER (sorry about spelling, I’ve been drinking) is a better QB than PEYTON MANNING??? you’re telling me ELI MANNING is as good as PEYTON because he has as many rings?

I’m sorry. But that’s just @#$%ing ridiculous. Seriously, shame on you.

"gonzo's gonna getcha"

by OneArmedBoxer on Oct 11, 2009 5:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You really have to wonder how the rest of Brady's teammates feel

about Brady being solely responsible for those Super Bowl wins.

Especially Vinieteri who scored the final, winning Patriot points in all three,
and the defense who forced four turnovers in the first Super Bowl win, while Brady fumbled the ball away and threw for 145 yards.

You know something else? Only 6 Super Bowls have been won by three points or less, and Brady’s are three of those.

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 11, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, I thought Belichek was the world's greatest coach ever,

but he had nothing to do with those three Super Bowls?

by HoosierHorseman on Oct 11, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've said it in several posts, including this one...

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2009/8/14/989403/best-qb-in-the-nfl-peyton-manning

I think you’ll find my comments in that blog mirror several listed here….

Here’s the only statistic you need to pay attention to however when it comes to the whole Brady vs. Manning debate…

Manning carries his team, Brady manages his team.

FYI – Terry Bradshaw, who is not even in the discussion in the top 25 greatest QBs of all time has 4 SB rings with the best defense in the history of the game.

His stats for those 4 years???

http://www.nfl.com/players/terrybradshaw/profile?id=BRA301078

The guy was a mediocre QB for much of his career and yet he has 4 SB rings…

I’m not saying Brady is Terry Bradshaw…..but the only reason people put him in the discussion with the NFL’s best is because of his SB rings….not because of his production on the field…

by DevilsReject on Oct 12, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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