Beating the Patriots just got a little harder
by MaPatsFan on Nov 13, 2009 6:06 PM EST
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As you may have seen in shake's injury report post (now updated with the Pats report -shake), we see a number of Patriots "returning" to practice. I take this with a grain of salt as the players were noticed at the media portion of practice; the rest of practice is closed to all but team personnel, so whether or not they're playing is STILL anyone's guess. Maybe they're return to practice is Hoodie's way of making the Colts prepare for players who may not be there. Maybe they really WILL play. At any rate, I'll run through the returns as if they're playing and get some conversation going on their impact.
- WR Julian Edelman - Edelman earned his stripes when Wes Welker missed a few games earlier in the season. He came up to speed quick and displayed Welker-like quickness and good hands. He "could" work well as our third receiver or rotate in and out with Welker. Given the choice, I'd want Welker on the field, but it's nice to have Julian on board.
- RB Sammy Morris - Morris adds depth and can be a better fit when Laurence Maroney is having trouble. He also has good hands and can serve as a checkdown option when needed.
- LT Matt Light - Sebastian Vollmer has been filling in for Light and doing a fine job. However, LT lines up against Dwight Freeney. Belichick will have to make a choice: the experienced veteran just coming back from an injury or the fresh rookie who's been doing well. Ultimately, I think they'll start Vollmer, see how he handles Freeney, and use Light if the rookie is in trouble.
- C Dan Koppen - This is big, especially against Indy. I'd much rather have the experienced guy swallowing up Indy's defensive linemen.
- S Brandon Meriweather - Another positive return. I was concerned when he ended up on the injury report as he's one of the Patriots more productive safeties. Brandown McGowan will most likely take FS duties and be assigned Dallas Clark while Meriweather gets SS.
- LB Eric Alexander - Alexander is not a game changer, but he adds depth when needed. It's good to have him on board.
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I think Light is listed as Doubtful, though
Being an asshole doesn't make you wrong. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs
I'd LOVE to see a craft vet
who has not practiced for a few weeks until today. He is clearly slowed by whatever his injury is enough that this is his first day back? No freakin’ way, but it’d make my day.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
Didn't Edelman break his forearm?
Or am I thinking of someone else?
How can you not love a team that does this?
If he plays
a. he’s tough, and
b. I assume he won’t be able to catch well
How can you not love a team that does this?
or block, or stiff-arm, or arm-wrestle,or call time-out
or whine for a flag
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
Beating the Patriots just got a little harder,
Peyton plays his best football at night.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.
Correction: Beating the COLTS just got a little harder,
Peyton plays his best football at night.
God, I hate typos.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.
Somehow I new you'd say that!
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.
You're right!
I can’t imagine how teams must feel having to go into Lucas Oil Stadium and face Peyton in primetime! Wow! That’s got to be intimidating. I expect a huge game from our guy! Go Colts!
Colts 31
Patriots 17
Mark it down.
I did this a few times at that dump of a site I used to write for so I figured, hell, why not try it out over at Stampede Blue you know? At least this time someone will actually be reading it.
-Me
I guess I see
Someone else besides myself is gaining more and more confidence with this game as it gets closer.
If you listen to the media you would still think it’s 2004. yawn
Tune in Saturday at Noon EST
To see a REAL game!
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
by Colts Homer on Nov 14, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My own university didn't have a football team worth watching
but the hubby and I have been following Notre Dame for a looooooong time – mostly because it was the nemesis of certain insufferable relations who went to Boston College, lol. It helped when Charlie Weis started coaching there too (although can’t say the same for their record since he came on board.)
We started following Holy Cross and attend games with our son who’s in his sophomore year. It’s so much fun being a part of that student atmosphere again and the all-out enthusiasm put into cheering for their team. One of their graduates, WR Brett McDermott was invited to the Colts Training Camp this summer and lasted through pre-season until the roster cut-down, which is pretty cool for a player from such a small school. He was also a football standout for our local high school here in MA.
Keep the faith!
intresting.. what a way to play the game
But after all it seems like the game already started, but the way all this manipulation of the injury reports makes me feel is like they feel Brady needs help to win this one so his coach will deliver the first punch and then Brady gets to take on the black-eyed opponent.
This is what some Pats fan posted earlier on another website about this:
So earlier this week we have Morris, Light, Edelman, Meriweather and Koppen missing practice. The Colts staff has to develop a game plan based on what they see earlier in the week, and with these five missing practice, they plan around their absences. Friday comes and poof all five players are suddenly at practice, leaving the Colts staff with just one day to re-scheme and practice the new gameplan. Doesn’t mean that these five will in fact play on Sunday with one day’s practice themselves, but it sure does screw up the Colts plans either way.
And the best part? It’s LEGAL!
Hate away, Patriots haters, but this is one of the reasons why Belichick is the success that he is. Why isn’t your coach this smart?
According to this comment Pats fans should not ask that Brady gets the MVP, they should ask they give it to Belichick. hahaha i cant believe this BS, the colts wont get caught in Belichick’s mind games, shame on them if they do , they should know better already, Colts play the game on the field not with strange off the field tactics. You can change all you want your reports and confuse a lot of OC and Coaches in the league but payton is a OC and a Coach in the field this won work and most important you cant change which colts player will be on the field sunday , you cant stop Freeney , Mathis and our D no matter who is on that list and who will actually play, and if theyre playing injured it wont be a smart move to jeopardize their season with the extra risk. Good luck with all that you will need it.
Did you just say Payton?
BANNED!!!!!!
I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation
LMAO give me the edit button
ok here is my penitence:
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For what it's worth...
A former professor of mine is a higher up in the NBC Sunday Night Football program. He says two teams are notorious for manipulating and changing the injury report. Those two teams: the Patriots and the Colts. While I’d love to point a finger and yell and Belichick for being a conniving dirtball, our own Bill Polian enjoys the same shenanigans (case in point- Marlin Jackson has a season ending injury when he’s listed as sitting out).
by WaynesWorld on Nov 13, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Pats fans gripe about it as much as we do
And we do gripe about this opacity, as do Indystar reporters….
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
Limited
I may be wrong but many of those guys just practiced a little bit today.
They might dress but not play. Who knows. A few might not play at all. We don’t know yet. Oh those Pats think they are so clever with injury reports but the Colts will prepare for everyone regardless.
I doubt Light plays but I also doubt they putt a hobbled Light against Freeney. I would love if they did.
Freeney will say Hi to him on his way around him to get Brady.
by Ufanforreal on Nov 13, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
He's 6-8, so those long arms will do plenty of holding
It’s just a matter of the refs deciding to call it.
I don’t mean to raise the spectre of post 2003 ire (call the freakin’ rules the way they’re written, or change them!) but damn, I cannot imagine any team with a decent pass rush not being frustrated by the league-wide lack of holding calls. I am sure everybody benefits from it, as we do undoubtedly, but it’s brutally painful to watch sometimes.
We should start an unofficial hold count—on both sides, but mainly Pats holds against the Colts players, of course.
Freeney probably still has enough DNA from Marcus McNeill hands on his facemask to close the SD LT.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
that is.....
Assuming Freeney and Mathis don’t get held like crazy.
But , you are not stopping Freeney this year. The man is in his own world.
HK, damn, I expounded on the same topic above before seeing yours. I hate the holding.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
check that--the UNCALLED holding
I’m a little frustrated but happy to take 10 free yards whenever. It’s the uncalled penalties that make me spray Cowher spittle on the TV. “Kids, get the mop, the game’s about to start.”
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
It comes down to which officiating crew we get
either the ‘whistle a minute’ or the ‘you have to have a limb torn off before I blow this thing’ group
Keep the faith!
Green's crew
go to this link
Don’t remember much about this crew which is a good thing. I’m just glad it wasn’t Ron Winter’s crew. Hate that guy….
8-0 feels oh so good. Bring on the Pats....
OKAY
I don’t know how to do links either. Here is the website.
http://www.football-refs.com/nfl-referees-by-season/2009-crews/week-10/
8-0 feels oh so good. Bring on the Pats....
According to the commenter
the Side Judge, Larry Rose sucks something awful
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Interesting referee stats through week 9 (Before week 10)
From the Referee Chat Blog:
Scott Green:
Has the highest home team win rate (75%), tied with Mike Carey, out of 16 NFL referees.
Has the 7th highest Total Accepted Penalties Per Game (12.6)
Has the 5th highest Total Penalty Yards Per Game (106)
Has the 7th highest Average Penalty Yards Per Penalty (8.4)
Has the 8th Total Points Per Game (45.3)
I’m not liking that 75% home team win percentage.
Keep the faith!
Anyone know
the typical percentage of home team wins? i.e., how much does refereeing contribute to the win versus just having that intangible home field advantage?
Either way, interesting find.
How can you not love a team that does this?
Freeney is entering his prime
He’s a darkhorse DPOY candidate this year. He could easily have 20 sacks this year.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
easily 20?:P
he might get there (i doubt it), but it would require a few jared allen v packers type of games, since he’s not going to become the first player to ever record a sack in all 16 games.
And, actually, unless the Colts open a 14+ point lead at some point, I think he’ll be held without a sack. I don’t think the Patriots will be going deep all that often unless they have to. I think they’ll run a ton of draws and screens and a lot welkers cute little routes and make the Colts prove they can stop the run without cheating and can remain disciplined etc., without exposing Brady to the pass rush too much.
If memory serves, the Colts rarely get pressure on Brady… I dont remember a lot of it in the 06 AFFCG, I only remember Mathis’ sack on the first play of the game in 07 (and they got some other pressure in the first half of that game) … lets see if my old man memory works before the 06 AFFCG. the 06 regular season game, we got good pressure? I remember Brady having like 3 or 4 INTs. 05, that was the blow out, right? I don’t remember much pressure, though. And before that, doesnt matter much since the teams would be so different.
Anyhow, hope I’m wrong. Unlike the others, im getting LESS confident the closer this game gets. 30-20 or 31-21 Pats, i think.
Being an asshole doesn't make you wrong. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs
Disagree
Don’t fall into the media hype over the Pats. These are two evenly matched teams, but the game is at home and we have something this year that we haven’t had in a long time….a trustworthy D with a flexible D Coordinator that is willing to take some chances and make adjustments on the fly.
I think it will be a close game, but the Colts are the undefeated team for a reason and if we don’t beat ourselves we will win this game.
8-0 feels oh so good. Bring on the Pats....
Snap!
(Laughing) Those are the only two ways the Colts can possibly lose this game. Either they beat themselves or the Pats beat them.
8-0 feels oh so good. Bring on the Pats....
by AceOfSpades on Nov 14, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
i live in canada, i don't get espn
or fox sports, nor do i watch CBS sports. I’m about as influenced by the media as a corpse, but thanks for unfounded comments!
Being an asshole doesn't make you wrong. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs
Brady's INT to Jackson
was caused by pressure from Freeney, btw.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Nov 14, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I'm glad we came up with one play.
Being an asshole doesn't make you wrong. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs
even less confident now
I’m thinking 38-12 (get matt stover on your fantasy teams now)
Being an asshole doesn't make you wrong. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs
Just ran the numbers again
And Its getting worse out there. My gut feeling + current projections based upon a complicated algorithm has given me a new projection:
New England Patriots – 51 (Belichick is waiting for THIS game to start running the score up again)
Indianapolis Colts – 3
Its kind of odd to think that this is possible, and I apologize for telling you to add Matt Stover earlier. The good news is, the 3 points will come on a 64 yard field goal, so if you get bonus points for length, you might want to go ahead and add him anyhow.
There will be a final projection tomorrow morning, as my computer continues to crunch mersenne primes in an effort to better realize the outcome of sunday nights contest.
Being an asshole doesn't make you wrong. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs
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